Didn't Elsi used to cut up pretty badly on Rally GB...?
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Didn't Elsi used to cut up pretty badly on Rally GB...?
As a competitor who absolutely loves East Riding Stages and has done it both years. I'm a little surprised the event hasn't made it into any of the national championships next year, National tarmac or BRC. But from what I can gather of information released so far 2024 will feature a new spectator stage run twice and similar stages to past 2 years with a change to the stage where there was the 'incident'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sal yet again
Compared to the initial ambitions after the first event I do wonder if they've scaled back the plan for ERC and such. But excited to see what the new stage is and looking forward to the event.
The BHRC calendar was announced yesterday:
https://preview.mailerlite.io/emails...55927995254252
The most notable inclusion is surely the Anglo-Caledonian Rally. Also hoping that the as the Severn Valley Rally is included in the BHRC that it will create a similar format to the Trackrod so as to provide the BRC with decent stage KMs
Riponian the first round again which is great news for fans in this part of the world. Interesting calendar with the tar rounds in the middle of the year. Number of rounds makes other championships seem a little "lite"!
No Clacton in 2024.....
https://corbeauseatsrally.co.uk/2023...acton-in-2024/
A real shame re Clacton. Must be a reflection of the time and costs involved around a closed road event when the rally is run by a team of volunteers
It's been said before, but for too long events have been run solely by volunteers; times change, and the pressures for time. In the 2020s, it needs another way of running these events. And, it has to be said, MSUK could/should be doing more to help.....
Interesting news about a Rally4 Cup to be held next year, 4 rounds in Ireland, 4 rounds in the UK for Peugeot 208 and Opel Adam Rally4 cars. Mix of tarmac and gravel. Really hope that this takes off, first manufacturer supported one make series in the UK for a long time.
75k Euro prize fund
https://www.facebook.com/raceandrallyni
It would be interesting to know where the money’s coming from and why we can’t have more of this in the UK/Ireland. France have been doing this for years with the Renault Clio cup (Rally5?) if I’m not mistaken.
Also wondering what the calendar will be, maybe the three BRC gravel round plus the Trackrod for some decent mileage?
Sports & You have been running a championship for those cars in the Canary Islands for the last couple of seasons and both Spain and France have multiple one make series. There's the Iberica (Spain/Portugal) Cup for Pug 208s and a Yaris GR series as well the Euro Corsa E championship.
IMO its these sort of championships that should underpin any healthy National rally scene however unlike Spain where the official importer is holding a class for Hyundai i20s next year I suspect in the UK its going to have to be a "privateer" effort as the car companies here dont appear to see rallying as a worthwhile marketing spend
The FB post says "manufacturer supported", so presumably Stellantis are involved. It also says "supported by Michelin Motorsport", so there's a tyre backer as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by HKSjbg
https://youtube.com/shorts/j5dBVNfHM...SqpwW7Tna-_tQF
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzmFP...RlODBiNWFlZA==
Meirion Evans has been testing the Polo on gravel at Phil Price Rally School in preparation for this weekend’s Wyedean. I wonder if it means he’s planning entering the BRC next year. I flat out asked that in the comments, not expecting a full-disclosure reply :D
He should, he probably wont get a better chance of going for the BRC title given the likely dearth of top quality entrants.Quote:
Originally Posted by HKSjbg
Well he should be the man to beat on tarmac, considering her has two proper international wins to his name in the ITRC
Provisional SRC calendar, confirming that the Carlisle Stages won’t run next year as the Anglo-Caledonian effectively replaces it
http://www.scottishrallychampionship...ship-calendar/
**BREAKING NEWS**
The 2024 JDS Machinery Rali Ceredigion has been confirmed as a round of the 2024 FIA ERC - European Rally Championship , in a move that will see this major international competition return to Wales for the first time in 28 years.
It will also be the first time the UK has hosted a round of a top-tier FIA championship since Wales Rally GB last took place in October 2019, just one month after Rali Ceredigion was first held.
Rali Ceredigion organisers have worked closely with regional stakeholders, commercial partners and local authorities to secure the resources and infrastructure necessary to support this major step forward for the event. After meeting with the ERC promoter to discuss detailed operating requirements and procedures, the 2023 event was observed by FIA officials, their report endorsing Rali Ceredigion as a worthy candidate for ERC inclusion in 2024.
Great that its not the last round as well which should hopefully see more of the title contenders show up even if it will be one of the more expensive/awkward events for the mainland ERC crews to compete in. Would imagine it will draw some of the top ITRC crews over as well.
If anyone has any tips for good viewing spots then let me know as will be able to come down from Yorkshire for the rally as it doesnt clash with my wedding anniversary now the date has move forwards!!
Check the double hairpins at about 8.7km on stage 10/13 Clywedog https://www.rally-maps.com/Rali-Ceredigion-2023
That was the best spot we went to all weekend - we got REALLY close up on the inside of the first left-hander and everything was a joy to watch, including the Land Rovers spinning up their inside rear wheels :D
SS3/6 Cwm Ystwyth was also a good one. We walked (plus a lift from a local farmer on his quad bike!) from Craig Goch Dam to the junction at about 24.25km in, at the top of the hill, accidentally happening upon Paul Woodford and the Special Stage team. You can see and hear the cars coming for about 2km.
The designated spectator spots, of which we went to one, are a bit sterilised in my opinion - too far from the action and not the best spot to see the cars at their best. But maybe nice for a bit of atmosphere.
I’m already excited to go back next year and hope some of the stages from last year return to up the stage km count a bit for the ERC.
Don't tell everyone, it'll be packed next year! I'll have to find another spot now... :D I was on the outside of the right hander on the second run, though only because some folks had already claimed the inside of the left hander... :D Small world, heh!Quote:
Originally Posted by HKSjbg
We found a spot on the inside of the left hander still, it was a bit of a squeeze though!
Just noticed the Malcolm Wilson is now down as two days in ewrc and looked on their facebook page:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...00057658599413
Probably no extra mileage, but still pretty cool that there will be a night leg
If you go over 45 stage miles the permit fee goes up by almost 50%.Quote:
Originally Posted by HKSjbg
That was well worth the Cambrian organisers putting on a 74km rally this year for the BRC lot then :D
https://www.rallies.info/webentry/20...ies.php?type=u
Provisional entry for the BHRC qualifying Riponian and there is a certain TR7 V8 on the list!
https://www.rallies.info/webentry/20...ies.php?type=u
Riponian Interclub (non BHRC) provisional entry list also looking good so far
The permit fee is per car so the increase would only apply to the cars doing the extra mileage. Details of the fees are contained in Appendix 1 of the "Blue Book".Quote:
Originally Posted by HKSjbg
This was posted in the WRC section, Howard's/S4C's tour of Prodrive (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ_KrIlY8eE), but I've just got to say well done Howard for not avoiding the subject of the state of British rallying under the circumstances. Even as a critic of DR, I thought it took some balls to deliver his final line to him, after he's shown him around and he's just about to leave, to part with "people think you're sleeping"! :D Harsh, but true. Classy response from DR too, to be fair, I just hope it was accurate.
I dislike what DR did to the WRC, and I don't think he's done enough in his role at MSUK, but I've always liked him........and I hope he has plans for the sport in the UK.
I’d like to know even just a small snippet of what MSUK are planning, just so we have some confidence in his words “…I assure you I’m not [sleeping]”
Citroen C3 Rally2 Trophy Ireland launched:
https://raceandrally.com/news/Citroe...and_announced/
It’s mad to think there is that much prize money available for a domestic-level rally championship on the British Isles!
I wonder if Desi Henry will take part to the Citroën Cup(he's on entrylist of Turkey Rallysprint this coming weekend in a C3) :confused:
There were 10 entered as early as the Donegal this year so certainly one of the cars to have in Ireland:
https://www.ewrc-results.com/entries...al-rally-2023/
The C3 has had its 2nd wind this year winning championships in the Canary Islands for example and appears to have taken off far better than the Fabia eve did. Bit of a thumbed nose to M-sport in one of its former prime markets though..
Got to imagine that it's largely the efforts of Race and Rally as importer that has appealed to customers in Ireland. They've probably made it relatively easy to run a C3 there compared to other models.
I wonder where the prize money is coming from. Some from Michelin? From the press release for the Rally4 Cup it sounded like there was some financial support from Peugeot/Opel... At what level I don't know
Do they rent Rally2/Rally4 cars out for rallies or just at most provide on-event support for their customers who have bought a car from them? Asking for a friend... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by the sniper
I'm not that familiar with their operation I'm afraid but they're definitely a major supplier of parts at least. From the take up of the C3 I can only imagine people are happy with their services!Quote:
Originally Posted by HKSjbg
Severn Valley Stages to run 60 stage miles for the cost of 45 miles this year. Stages to include Myherin, Sweet Lamb, Hafren and at least one stage in Sarnau, so Cwmysgawen/Cwmcynydd or both. The article also says that it will be a round of the Stellantis Motorsport Cup - I don't think the calendar for that has been released yet unless I've missed it? Should be a great event, hopefully with a big entry.
https://rallynutsrally.co.uk/rallynu...ering-in-2024/
When they mentioned a return to Llandrindod Wells, I expected they would then use Crychan, Halfway etc as was the case previously; however they're still using the stages they've used for the last few years after moving the event to April.
I hope they can keep it going like that after this year’s 50th anniversary event. The Trackrod Historic has been 90km for a few years now, clearly the historic lot are happy to do these slightly longer events.
What would be really cool is if Saturdays could be a 90km historic rally and Sundays a 70km BTRDA rally for a longer BRC round. The number of entries for the Trackrod Historic and Trackrod Forest Stages are each enough to support two mutually exclusive days of rallying.
Eventually the BRC/MSUK must take notice that this idea of the clubman+ competitor for the BRC is a dead-end of 6-9 entries per round. These ‘longer, tougher events’ like the whopping 74km of the Cambrian aren’t really getting anyone’s pulse racing…
It’s a shame that the Trackrod has been dropped while the Cambrian hasn’t for ‘24 but at least the Severn Valley Rally will be doing something Trackrod-like. It’s got a good chance of coming to fruition as well with the BHRC competitors giving the event the needed entries. I wonder how much extra the entry fee the organiser will be footing will be - it seems like potentially a lot of cash for the rally organiser to just gift the entrants out of good will!
This is a surprising one; Snowman Rally is cancelled:
https://www.ewrc-results.com/final/8...an-rally-2024/Quote:
Postponed due to "late setbacks with the original planned route and proposed changes to the way we engage with the landowners [Forestry & Land Scotland] which leaves us in too uncertain a position to proceed"
Also there’s an itinerary viewable for the North West Stages:
https://www.ewrc-results.com/timetab...t-stages-2024/
5 stages run twice instead of the usual thrice. Unless a lot of them are longer than previous years, this may be a disappointingly short BRC round :(