Please stop talking nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
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Please stop talking nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
All I can say is he doesn’t really give off the impression he loves what he’s doing, it may just be his demeanour but of all of them it wouldn’t surprise me if he packed in before it was expected.Quote:
Originally Posted by rp
Purely speculative but it would also not surprise me if Ogier stopping is also something that reduces his motivation.
I also wish Ott and his family all the best.Quote:
Originally Posted by flat_right
I find three theories:
Continue with Hyundai
Retirement from WRC
Move to M-Sport Ford
If he wants to retire and not honour his contract after Monza why wouldn't he retire and not honour his contract before Monza? Surely he would do it with immediate effect? This is silly season chat!
It could just be a chance to give him some time to reconsider his future, before making a final decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCStan
There will be a lot of testing coming up - both developmental and Monte prep, so they give him a break...
It seems unusual to take this significant decision 2 weeks before the event.....
Whatever the case is this doesn't seem likely at all. The team engineers should be at the test while you suggest they would be in Monza. Test days are limited so they wouldn't have to cancel his Monza drive to gain more test days.Quote:
Originally Posted by flat_right
Are they limited at the moment?
New car, not yet homologated.. can't test as much as they want now?
But are test days limited if you are developing totally new car? So far I have understood that if you have a homologated car, then for that the test days are counted but for new car, you can basically test as much as you want.
From sporting regulations:
68.4.5 2022 WRC CARS TESTING
30 additional test days for the purpose of testing new
generation cars will be granted to every Manufacturer Team
entered in the 2020 and/or 2021 WRC Championship, that
is developing a new WRC car according to the specifications of the 2022 technical regulations, under the following
conditions:
a) for the period of the 1st of November 2020 until 31st of
December 2021
b) for the period of 1st of November 2020 until 31st of
December 2020 all the 2020 WRC regulations regarding
testing have to be respected.
c) for the period of 1st of January 2021 until 31st of
December 2021 all the 2021 WRC regulations regarding
testing have to be respected.
Manufacturer Teams are required to use and complete the
appropriate specific test form available
If you read the announcement - one just not make joke or fake news out of family reasons. It would be stupid and ridiculous.
Additional test days.
So you can also use the "normal" 2021 test days for 2022 car (MSport this year and VW in 2016 for 2017 car), the ratio is totally up to you.
(you can also use the additional test days for 2021 car if you really wanted)
Hmm, I don't know if it would be allowed to use the additional test days for testing 2021 car.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
However, Hyundai for sure has used all their 2021 car test days
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
I can't believe that people are basically accusing Tanak of hiding behind "family reasons" for either just not being bothered to go to Monza, or needing a rest, or putting together a secret deal to drive a Ford/Toyota/Trabant/Wartburg/Lada in 2022...
Do people really think he would do that?
Personally I doubt there is something strange with this. Most likely just someone close with some illness or similar.
But I don't really know him on a personal level and doubt that many here do.
I doubt many of these people that don't know him expected him to switch to Hyundai in 2019 either. So that might be the reason why there is more room for speculation now.
SUNINEN: MONZA IS MY CHANCE TO EARN FULL-TIME WRC SEAT
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/sunin...time-wrc-seat/
If he could want to retire, he could say it out clearly: "I don't enjoy it anymore and I'm tired of this sh*t".Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Meanwhile - not-motivating situation may make some decisions easier to make. I don't know the reasons at the moment, but if there could be title fight situation at the moment, could it be the same decision from him? We can only speculate.
Full time WRC seat where?Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
Toyota is full
MSport wont take him back anytime soon
Hyundai is full?
EDIT: Nvm, clickbait title
"“I told you already that my ambition is to be back in the top level, but that’s difficult next season.”"
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
Also, he skipped the press conference of Acropolis because of personal reasons, and didn't restart in Catalunya although there was no reports of the car being too badly damaged. If these things hadn't happened, speculations would be quieter for sure. But these two could be also a part of the same thing which is forcing him to skip Monza, whatever it is.
And it's true what you said, it's none of our business in the end, we shouldn't speculate too much.
Re Tanak possibly doing more testing of the new car... isnt testing unlimited within a certain radius of the team base ?
Just speculation, but Hyundai do need to catch up with their 2022 car asap and getting Tanak more seat-time in it would be beneficial to them both.
Not anymore, only on a specific small area close to the base. Not sure if Hyundai has anything proper they can use…Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
If he gels with the car, he could be very quick. The i20 is quicker than the Fiesta, but it is a car that not everyone like to push it, since it does not fit all driving styles.Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
He has been quick on tarmac in the WRC, then again the Fieste is/was a very good tarmac car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
Yes, at least since 2019 Fiesta was far better on tarmac than any other surface.
Anyway Suninen adds some much needed excitment to what could be a bit boring rally. Let's also hope there is some changing weather.
Huttunen drives a Fiesta Rally2:
https://www.wrc.com/en/news/2021/wrc...season-finale/
Nice let's hope there is decent competition besides Mikkelsen, maybe Gryazin?
Wonder if this means he will drive Fiesta also next year or it's just checking out the car.
Entry list is out now:
https://www.wrc.com/en/news/2021/wrc...ist-published/
Congrats to Torstein Eriksen, WRC2 co-driver champion. I thought perhaps Ola Floene might be poking Andreas Mikkelsen for a championship winning drive.
Another rule “breaking” with Lefebvre being codriver?
https://www.ewrc-results.com/entries...ly-monza-2021/
But what would be the purpose? He was not present on any WRC event this year. I thought maybe first WRC 3 enter is free/cheaper with wild car, so now he decided to take another one entering co-driver, but as I mentioned, he did not enter any WRC rally this year. Any ideas?
He raced with WRC in 2017.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FD1-TiCW...jpg&name=large
Nice surprise to see Greg Munster on the entry list:)
Thank you, Andre! I forgot about this.
Lindholm's use of the loophole was cheeky. This just seems wrong.
Well sadly no more surprises. Somehow I expected some more "paydrivers" for (cheap) last run with 2017 cars.
Only good one is Crugnola driving and also as WRC3 (and not outside of WRC3 like some other Italians last year).
Else the competition in RC2 is just a shadow of last year in terms of quality.
Pretty funny with Gryazian driving for "Movisport SRL" against Toksport with likely Toksports car, after already using MSport Fiesta for same purpose. Obviously WRC2 team title is a bit of a joke, but I wonder if there is some money associated with the win or why teams care at all.
its just because of the stupid rules keeping him from participating in wrc3.Quote:
Originally Posted by ouvreur
In Lindholms case he couldn't start as WRC3 cause he had max starts this year. Starting outside of WRC3 would put him a long way down the starting order. WRC2 has own rules that allow starting a as "non scoring" driver precisely for this, that WRC3 is missing this is just a technicality with no real meaning.Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
Lefevbres case is very different. The rules about not allowing drivers that drove WRC for points is to avoid experienced top drivers from dominating the category for "young drivers" (like Mikkelsen did in Monza last year) and forcing them to drive WRC2 instead.
Precisely that.
Let's see if anything is done...
Should think that WRC3 going Rally3 will remove this particular rule, but what made Lefebvre do WRC3 instead of entering as non-priority driver?
Gilles de Turckheim is the best friend of Julien Ingrassia. I think he wants to participate in this rally because this is the last rally for Ingrassia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
But as Andre mentioned, his driver Lefebvre is not allowed to enter in WRC3, so that's why he entered himself as a driver and Lefebvre as a co-driver. In the race, Lefebvre will drive, I think.
Starting at the front.Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCStan
As non priority driver you start at the back, which reduces your chance of getting a good result.