No official info, but I would not count on it.
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No official info, but I would not count on it.
Official info from today was "They will start sending those in September"Quote:
Originally Posted by Jewy46
Right now only those 100€ "Special Access" passes are on sale. Those all have pass owners name printed on them, so will not be sold in any stores.Quote:
Originally Posted by polomayu
No info about "normal" rally passes. It probably depends how spectating is allowed.
NESTE is no longer rally sponsor so if tickets will be available, seller could be some other place/chain.
Finland has now gone red I see 😔
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#WRC2 Cheering megaphone Announcing our WRC 2 line-up for @RallyFinland
! Our Junior Drivers @OliverSolberg01
& @HuttunenRacing
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- in the Hyundai i20 N Rally2!
Game ON!
whilst denmark withdraw all restrictions 10 of september...Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
Just bought ferry tickets today.
Accommodation booked two years ago.
Waiting for the average guy`s rally passes.
Twice injected, don`t see any problem here.
Secto Rally Finland is the new name as i understand
press conf. going on atm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-piLyTeVka4
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-GsdMoX...jpg&name=small
Lappi in 5th WRC Yaris in rally Finland according to the below
http://urheiluuutiset.com/lappi-teke...an-mm-ralliin/
That would be interesting in multiple ways...
- Does it mean he is hired (likely) or are they "testing" him?
- Without getting nominated for points he will not score manu points and likely "steal" driver points, but maybe that's the goal since Toyota and Ogier have a decent lead
- Means Suninen would start with Hyundai
Let's hope they just didn't mix up the 5th Toyota as entered with Lappi instead of Suninen.
confirmation coming it seems https://twitter.com/EsapekkaLappi/st...450419725?s=20
Lappi has been awesome this season. Definitely deserved.
Cool!!
Lappi in my pickems will be in top 3.
It also says that Suninen will drive a Polo R5. That's a serious disappointment after the hype of last two days.
Entry will close at midnight, entrylist should be out on Friday.
Lappi entry seems to be with his own sponsors (colors) just like Grönholm and JML were in Sweden.
Rumour says that RENT deal was made in April, so it´s privately funded not "TGR entry"
Clearly much more logical to put the 5th car for Lappi.
He was the top contender for the seat next year and it was a good opportunity to give him a WRC rallye to avoid losing habits at this level.
I’m waiting to see what he can do
What is said above about the fact that it is a rental agreement may explain why he does few rallies in the rest of the year (saving money for this opportunity)
TOP3 would be a huge achievement...dont get me wrong, i dont doubt his capabilities and talent but its just the fact that the others have been in the car all season long while he hasnt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
And he hasnt driven with the Toyota for 3 years now basically.
we will see.
It's been really up and down for him in Finland.
Only win in Yaris(2017) and 2nd in C3 (2019)...but also crashing out of 4th as slowest Yaris when Tanak in same car dominated in 2018.
The obvious goal has to be to defeat Ogier, Evans and Neuville who all have bad startpositions and don't have very good results in Finland.
It would be great to see Lappi driving Yaris and not a surprise at all. Hard and almost impossible to beat Rovanperä and Tänak in Finland. A podium is possible, but also Breen is there. Evans, Ogier, Neuville and Katsuta will be behind and of course M-Sport drivers. But it will be a tight fight with Greensmith, Fourmaux and Suninen if he is driving Polo R5...
Quite surprising to see Suninen in a Polo on the other hand; to decide to leave M-Sport at this period, I thought it would be with a clear idea and a good plan.
But I’m not sure of the plan then: is the Polo better than the Fiesta Rally2? (Because he is paying in the two cases). Not sure according to me. Anyway, he will have pressure because Lappi has beaten Mikkelsen and Ostberg with this car.
Or is it a question of money? Maybe that, with no chance to follow with M-Sport, Jouhki didn’t want to pay the full bill for the last 4 rounds and prefers a cheaper option by renting a Polo on only two rallyes.
Printsport´s Polo is surely better in Finland than Fiesta, but probably not in Spain. That´s true. He has to beat Mikkelsen and Ostberg, but also Huttunen and not an easy job...Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny0405
Yep, it sounded like they have so great plan so everyone was expecting Toyota or Hyundai... and then he will show up in Polo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny0405
Polo has been usually a bit better than Fabia on fast rallies (recently I noticed Kaur went to Finland with it and beat all Finish guys), but generally seems to be a bit weaker when the conditions are changing and/or more slippery. Which might easily happen in start of October. Fiesta seems weakest on slippery and fast gravel and strongest on tarmac. Anyway Mikkelsen will not be driving Finland or Spain in WRC2, since he has 6 starts by then out of max 7 and the last last needs to be "outside Europe" in Japan to score teampoints for Toksport. In case Japan gets replaced by Monza I guess they go there. Also during that weekend he will drive ERC.
So in Finland it will be Østberg, Huttunen, Solberg and maybe Gryazin.
Ok, maybe I do not evaluate well the Polo because I do not follow very precisely most of the national championships (except the main ones).
For me, the car was average (not awful but probably a disappointment with the expectations due to the VW WRC era + Skoda experience and the fact that it was supposed to to replace Skoda which stopped its development on the Fabia) with some reliability issues. Finally, the Fabia is still the most consistant car in the class according to me (and they will make new developments in 2022 apparently) and between the Citroen, the Polo, the Hyundai and the Fiesta, there is no big gap (maybe the Hyundai and the Fiesta are a little less efficient considering the results but it is complicated to say because you must take into account the quality of the drivers in the mix).
So replacing a program with 2 Fiesta Rally2 drives + 1 WRC rally by a program with, at best, 2 outings in a Polo, could be strange.
But in the same time, the price is certainly not the same + considering the low performances of the Fiesta WRC in fast gravel, he may have wanted to avoid to drive it in Finland (because Estonia has been quite a bad operation in terms of reputation for Suninen)
Confirmed - private deal for Lappi.
https://www.wrc.com/en/news/2021/wrc...rally-finland/
I would say Polo is still the second best Rally2 car next to the Fabia, especially on fast rallies. Citroen, Hyundai and Fiesta are more on the level on technical gravel and tarmac rallies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny0405
https://twitter.com/TeemuSuninenRac/...73284272791559
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We will compete at the #RallyFinland 2021!d We’ll drive with the VW Polo GTI in the #WRC2. It always feels special to drive at my home rally. Can’t wait to get behind the wheel especially when it’s the 70th edition of the rally.
Quick Finnish gravel roads here we come again!
Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Seems quite right because Gryazin told that he will be with a Polo in Finland (deal already set before switching to M-Sport).
thats Egon Kaurs livery
and Juha Salo livery. (M.Rautio colors black/white)Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
good chance for Kaur to show himself against Suninen, Solberg, Gryazin, Huttunen
Well 3 of those he already met in Estonia this year and was a lot slower than the year before.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Have you heard any comments/explanation why?
Probably took easier because of fkd up Portugal and Sardegna..Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
One point in strange for me in the entry list: Gryazin is registered as WRC2 but it would be his 7th rally in the category (5 currently + Greece before Finland) and especially his 7th in Europe (and registered by Movisport team) whereas the rule is theoritically 6 + 1 outside Europe.
Maybe the rule was changed with Chile cancellation?
The way I am reading the rules the "outside of Europe" applies only if the team wants to win WRC2 team standings, but not to drivers championship. (Østberg already announced he will drive Greece, Finland and Spain and not Japan, so he won't have any start outside of Europe and he is listed as D/C - Drivers Championship entry).Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny0405
And it also means the "team" needs to start in the rallies. Movisport is so far registered as started in 4 rallies.
stage vids up on youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzA...3flddAg/videos
They can start in as many rounds as they want, but can can entry for points only in 7. At this round, only Östberg and Linnamane are signed for points (D/C means points both for driver and competitor).Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny0405
Ok thank you for the explanation. So basically Ostberg could win very easily WRC-2 in Finland whereas there should be a lot of competition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenneth
RC2 is clearly an absolute mess in WRC. The intention of separating WRC-2 (Pro) and WRC-3 was not a bad idea because Skoda factory team was clearly a competitive advantage for its driver but since Skoda has withdrawn officially, I’m not sure it is always needed.
Personnally, I think they should come back to something close to before 2018:
- all RC2 cars in WRC-2 championship.
Each RC2 manufacturer (Skoda, Hyundai, M-Sport, Citroen, VW) can register one team for a team championship (could also be a private team such as Toksport today)
The best driver in the championship not entered by a manufacturer would win a special title (WRC-2 Amateur or whatever the name)
- all RC3/RC4 cars in WRC-3 championship (seven rounds maximum with the best of 6 counting, 1 maximum outside Europe to avoid Michel Fabre’s strategy) and the best young driver (let say 27 or 28 years old) in the championship would win the Junior Championship.
Would be clearer in my opinion: only one main championship per class + a support championship title for the best ranked drivers among certain conditions.