Perfect!! If Kubica will be also driving, even better. It will bring more interset to the audience and journalists.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fredouye
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Perfect!! If Kubica will be also driving, even better. It will bring more interset to the audience and journalists.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fredouye
Monza rally show was never more than that, a show.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
I don't know how big the area of the circuit is, but if there are some acces and service roads, they might be able to create something that looks like real rally.
We had something similar in spa here.
https://youtu.be/G0NXBU1_wRY
https://youtu.be/vI1HYijUy_8
Well Suninen is happy to go to Monza...
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/why-s...-monza-so-much
Before Monza was a track show, it was a real rally, with some ss on track, some on service road and some on real road (even gravel!)Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
Saturday with ~ 130 km "mountain" stages. Thursday, Friday and Sunday on track. Probably 16 SS total.
i would like to see Paddons kona at Monza.It will be nice to see how it sounds and how fast can be against current wrc at asphalt.
And how far it can go in real conditions. I'd like to see that too.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
By the way in this video from 2017 you can see few shots of Černż with Stohl's electric P207 against rally, rallycross and autocross cars. Unfortunately it broke early. The P207 is at 0:15 and 1:32.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Wp3kqcIZDQ
I saw and (almost) did not hear Stohl's/STARD Fiesta for Project E in december 2019. The sound is awful. You can hear similar from Kona during some moments of Paddon's video. It is like ping/whistle and you are only wondering where the guy with remote controller is staying :eek:
rumors on the real stages:
"We will start with the Selvino (Km 26.39), the historic test of the Ronde Cittą dei Mille and the Rally Cittą di Bergamo, in a longer version than normal. It continues with the time trial of Gerosa (Km 11.31), also this former test of the Bergamo Rally. Once you have crossed the Val Brembilla, you go to the territory of Sant'Omobono Terme, for the third time trial of the day, or the Costa Valle Imagna (Km 22.13). All tests are to be repeated twice, interspersed with a service park inside the racetrack. The day will end with the Grand Prix (10.33 km), which will be held inside the racetrack at nightfall"
I'm sure AnttiL will find some map soon! :)
here the short Selvino version (8km) map from 2019:
https://www.arescommunication.com/la...ina-ps-selvino
and video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrPk...ature=emb_logo
race video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB0PhmO1X6k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VK-z659q-ZE (onboard)
“It’s comparable to AP4. That’s what we are looking for – we’re not trying to build a rocket ship because then we can’t compete with it. It’s got to be comparable." – Hayden Paddon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
https://rallysportmag.com/interview-...-ev-rally-car/
I really like the stage and in a way also the onboard because of what all it caught in 6 minutes... stalled engine, big moment, several other mistakes and on top of that suicidal spectators running on the stage with their back to the coming car :DQuote:
Originally Posted by wyler
Well if all the stages would similar then I think that would be a great rally.Quote:
Originally Posted by wyler
this is all very nice but im 80% sure the rally wont go ahead and we are finished with this season and big chance the next one will start in spring the earliest by my predictions if at all
But as 106 sport user indicated in rumours topic, there really was some contact between Hyundai, M-Sport, Citroen [Ostberg needs one more event] and Canarias organizers. Toyota is in oposition, but for me it's bit surprising. They have almost 100% title in drivers category, but they could fight for Manus title.
The second thing is that if they scratch saturday stages in Monza and make closed event on the track, only half points will be given. Drivers title it's [almost] done then.
Canarias would be perfect anyway...
Why contact the teams?
Isn't that a silly way to approach this? isn't the glaringly obvious step to approach WRC Promoter and FIA....?
This classifies very well under the definition of rumours. Do you have any other information than what 106 wrote? I mean, for that Toyota bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom K
you should get the notes from the codriver: "look at this a**hole"!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
uhm a road so wide is a bit of an exception in Italian mountains. iI expect something narrower form the other stagesQuote:
Originally Posted by flykas
Because you obviously want them to keep competing in the future...Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
It was the other way around from what i got, teams pushing the organizer to get in touch with the promoter to hold an eventQuote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
Village organisation...
Ogier was right.
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/itine...-season-finale
Four different Monza stages (plus super special)
130 km of local road stages on the Saturday is a big improvment on a track-only event like the Rally Show.
I'm curious to know whether the four Monza stages are just different chicane variations or two driving directions (there's roughly 10 km of route on the Monza Rally Show used typically) or have they found some new service roads to be added to the mix.
A lot of gravel sections are planned. Even 8-11 per stage. And acccording to itinerary and order: Stage A, Stage A, Stage B, Stage B it can be like you told: partly reverse direction and using common sections.
All SS are on tarmac with the following variations:
- In the Shakedown there is one stretch on gravel for a total of 0,15 km
- In the SS2 and SS3 there are seven stretches on gravel for a total of 2,18 km
- In the SS4 and SS5 there are nine stretches on gravel for a total of 2,96 km
- In the SS15 and SS16 there are eleven stretches on gravel for a total of 3,40 km
more curious about grand prix one. it will be like at Monza show? all car in track at the same time? seems impossible to me...Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Hopefully not...at least the stage is so short that multiple laps are not neededQuote:
Originally Posted by wyler
yes. just saw kms now. should be one lap, so no car overlapping.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
from French forum what a journalist wrote
Mario Alparone calls for HELP: "340 of our caregivers are positive and at home. Monza is overwhelmed by the growth of infections. We are now only accepting the seriously ill. I need the reinforcement of the army and the civil protection".
Lombardy (where Monza is located) is considered "red zone" since quite some time, so it's not a surprise nor something that happened out of nowhere... but as things went so far, I suppose FIA will just wait for Monza to be cancelled and be done with it?
Rally di Como has run during last weekend when Lombardy is already considered as red zone. ~ 200 crews on the start list. Of course, COVID situation can get worse each 2-3 days, so we can only wait and hope.
Monza is scheduled just at the end of the lockdown for red zones. Italy is allowing major rallies as" sport events of national relevance". Wrc will be good IF lockdown works and there will be an improvement (or at least stabilization) of covid spread in the next 2 weeks. ATM can happen, like Como especially with people in lockdown, no public issue.
So, Monza Circuit is now check point for those suspected of having COVID.
No M-Sport test for Monza as their season is basically over and budget needs to the saved for next year.
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/mille...onza-wrc-test/
Not a big deal. It's just a drive trough test for ambulances, instead of doing it in hospital ER, so they send to hospital only people in need. Nothing more than a gate and a tent.Don't think it will mean any issue for circuit activityQuote:
Originally Posted by Tom K
Veiby set for Monza World Rally Car debut
Ole Christian Veiby will make his first competitive World Rally Car appearance in next month’s WRC finale at ACI Rally Monza (3 - 6 December).
https://www.wrc.com/en/news/season-2...lly-car-debut/
Some guys are lucky. 6 years without any success and now a WRC car...Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii