There's a 3-way battle also in historic ERC.
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There's a 3-way battle also in historic ERC.
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Why can Latvala score more max points than Lubiak and Graham? Dropped scores?
Another new revolution in EHRC - https://www.fia.com/news/2026-fia-eu...ndars-revealed
Splitting the championship in 3 just seems like needless complications...Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
It's to meet demand from the competitors
We will see if it will work... I am not big fan of so many events and so many championships. I prefer to concentrate the events and competitors...
I think the "gravel championship" will get very few regular competitors. And late 90's car seem still too modern to me to be part of a historic championship...
You must be about as old as me as that's the way I thought until I looked back on the first historic rally I worked on!Quote:
Originally Posted by focus206
It was the historic rally tagged on to the 1988 Manx International and the big Healey's, Sunbeam Tigers &c taking part were about as old then as a late 1990's car is now.
Doesn't time fly when you're old!
I wasn't even born in 1988 :D I'm referring to the fact that up until this year, the limit for eligibility in the EHRC was around 1992/1993 and it was usually changing progressively. Now all of a sudden, a big jump up until 2000.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Boyd
We have modern championship like Alpe Adria or Mitropa cups in which S1600s or Lancer Evo VIII N4 are (or were just) eligible, now they're almost historic cars.
My apologies (you lucky b.......!)Quote:
Originally Posted by focus206
You'd be really shocked if you followed historic racing. They have historic categories and series for cars built in this century!
Yeah in circuit racing historic basically means not current cars. You can see even cars from 2010s racing there.
Tbh I wouldn't mind seeing that in rallying too. There are many WRCs, S1600, S2000 cars out there with no place to race except some regional championships. Why not do something similar.
Its not as if anyone is going to build a career on winning one of the EHRC titles but its bragging rights for those with deep enough pockets to be able to mount a campaign and dont just want to do exhibition events like Rally Legend. Just worry what the level of entries will be like across the year as can see Ceredigion and Ulster suffering as per the main ERC round this year. Only saving grace is that they havent gone back to coefficients.
Don't think it's a surprise that both UK events are on Tarmac; I think the chances of an International series on Gravel in the UK is almost nil; which is sad. The various Forestry owners want far too much for their roads use, that the sums don't/ won't add up.
There are gravel/forest events in BRC, BTRDA and BHRC. Are the charges higher to use these forests for International events ?Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
The rates are the same but as they are based on a "per mile" usage rate (with a slightly lower charge for a second use) you need a big entry to keep the entry fee down to a sensible level. The only way to make, say a 2½ day, International event pay would be to tag on a BHRC event for 1½ days and a BTRDA event for the other day. They already have to do this with the BRC forest events as the limited number of BRC entries can't cover the cost of the forest hire.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Other than the Roger Albert dont think any current UK forestry events could remotely get anywhere near the required mileage and as you say nil possibility of anything new appearing on the scene woods wise. As per the main ERC round the events will struggle for mainland European entries anyway due to the post Brexit costs and red tape.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
That would be mega, to tag the EHRC onto part of the RAC Rally one year.
But then I dont suppose the organisers would want it, distracting people form the main event.
Latvala won the final round in Fafe and he is European historic rally champion. The first championship he has ever won, congrats to him.
this is really awesome! sordo, lappi, paddon, latvala, solberg. loads of cool drivers winning titles this year!Quote:
Originally Posted by focus206
A Uruguayan four-time FIA rally champion is in talks to race the EHRC
Gustavo must be in his 70s though?
Compared to "Tony" Fassina he is still young! :)
https://www.ewrc-results.com/profile...tonio-fassina/
And Bob Bean retired from Historic Rallying at 84!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
(https://www.ewrc-results.com/profile/2611-bob-bean/)
Nothing against age and experience, I count myself in that same category! :)
Just a little surprised that he is venturing outside of the exhibition events like Rally Legend however the more the merrier and that will certainly put the Historic in the ERC Historics!
Just turned 70. He still gets invited to do the Rallylegend in San Marino. If they can afford the catering, he can't be that bad :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sal yet again
What car is he planning to use?
I haven't found information about which races and cars would Trelles use at the EHRC
Anthony Fotia to drive Renault Clio Maxi in the Rally Costa Brava in two weeks:
https://www.autohebdof1.com/actualit...n-en-ehrc.html
Jari-Matti Latvala crashed on SS1 of the EHRC Storico Costa Smeralda today:
"Unfortunately the rally ended early for us in the first stage when we lost the car over a fast crest.
Thankfully me and Topi Luhtinen are both totally fine and we will get the Celica repaired and be back on the stages again soon !"
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HGrOP0AW...jpg&name=small
Did FIA kill EHRC? Look at that - this year they didived it into 2 separate series:
1) EHRC Pre-1992 - where Latvala will probably lead from start to finish:
https://ewrc-results.com/event/98291...results/535195
2) EHRC Pre-2000 - where Delecour leads from start to finish:
https://ewrc-results.com/event/98279...results/541023
That what both championships share is poor entries in both series.
What a dumb move. The championship finally growing and they did this.
There is limited number of competitors. When there was one championship and lets say 8 events, lot of them did plenty of events. With dividing into three championship and having 14 (or more?) events doesnt mean there will be much more competitors. It will be plus minus same crews, so entry list will be much poorer everywhere. And having Costa Smeralda for older cars and Vltava for younger cars in same weekend is really brave. On Vltava there were only 4 EHRC competitors! On the other hand, all four of them finished the rally, so this must be historic record of historic rally championship - 100 % of cars finished the rally...
Until JML came along the whole ERC Historic scene appeared to be a safe haven for "gentlemen" drivers and the reason it seems to me for the FIA to go down the route of splitting the championship up is to allow more drivers to win cups. At a push could see a tarmac series that may just favour the 2 litre kits cars and Porsches and a gravel series for the Group A 4wd era machinery.
Sorry, that is not the reason. For a very long time there was not classification in general, only by categories (periods). This drivers are still receiving their cups and points according to age of their car. It is not about JML or other drivers, but about interest of too many organisers to be part of the championship. And of course they expect that drivers with modern cars will be much faster, so they wanted to allow drivers with older cars to fight for some championship. But the way how they did it is not good. You need to concentrate drivers doing EHRC on few events, not to have plenty of EHRC events with only few competitors. It is same like it was not working in ERC many years ago with 40 events and coefficient system...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sal yet again
No I get all that and obviously didnt make my original point very well, what I meant was when a well known "high profile" name with WRC credentials decided to do a full season to win a title which he hadnt done elsewhere suddenly the championship became a thing in its own right rather just something that die hard rally fans knew about. No-one wants to go back to coefficients...Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
It's not brave. It's stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto