Grip level is hard to predict. To drag the car out of a ditch - very difficult. Look at Francois Duval in 2009:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp-a6DOEW_M
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Grip level is hard to predict. To drag the car out of a ditch - very difficult. Look at Francois Duval in 2009:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp-a6DOEW_M
Even Thierry Neuville had problems in 2017:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXyT_l_sqcs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWjXyFCd8QA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7l8UjlfUZw
Alex Lukyanuk vs The Ditches of Ypres 0 - 1 !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEQ2jddw3Gc
Bernd Casier, despite his experience, ended in the ditch too!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLeoB4Ge7uA
Deep cut and deep ditch - bad combination for Josh Moffett in 2015:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mOewJVak40
So, summing up - when you go to Ypres, stay away from the ditches guys! ;)
Thanks, great stage but looking much more like Barum than Ypres :-DQuote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
a small taste from what will seeat Ypres?
“They were some of the worst conditions I’ve ever driven in,” Breen told DirtFish. “It was just horrendous. We were aquaplaning all over the road. We’d have a 600-meter straight and we weren’t able to get the car beyond fourth gear – it was just sliding from side-to-side, all over the road.”
For his first time in the car, Breen had been hoping for at least some dry and consistent conditions. They never came.
“We went out on the slick tire for the first loop,” he added. “It was a disaster. It would’ve been nice to get a dry loop in, just one loop so I could get a feel for the thing. There was no shakedown or roll-out or anything. I took the car over the ramp and drove to the first stage and was then just fired straight into it.
“Having said that, it’s really possible that we’ll have these conditions at some point during the Ypres Rally, so it makes sense to drive [with a compromised set-up], but it was really, really tricky.”
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/the-w...as-ypres-prep/
Condition were very bad indeed. Some of the worst I've ever seen in my 4 years as a codriver.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
But the aquaplanning should be less of a problem in Ypres because of a different surface. Aarova rally had mainly concrete roads. While Ypres is mainly asphalt. On the concrete roads there is much more standing water.
But cuts and mud dragged on the road will be very similar.
Note that the 2017+ I20 has always been in the top if not the fastest on slippery/tricky tarmac. It's when it's dry (and hot) that it struggled. So Ypres should definitely suit them.
Very much doubt Ypres will be ran though.
Sadly, that won't be a surprise. Ypres move from earlier October to late November was quite puzzling; was any justification given? And is there a chance for a last minute route change, with the whole event being run on Francorchamps circuit area? After Monza inclusion, I fear circuit racing may become usual in the WRC before this damn pandemic ends.Quote:
Originally Posted by wwbroe
Deutschland 2017? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Good practice for Breen !
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CGN5T9U...=1enyo7k0ih4cz
Oliver Solberg is the next victim of the famous Belgian ditches. Have a look at 4:23:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEev...ature=emb_logo
And that's in the dry ! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
they adjusted their date to whatever was needed to fit in the wrc calendar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
i don't think they will change it to francorchamps. unlike monza, the home base is not the circuit but ypres center. they would have to change absolutely everything, from service parc to podium.
but i can see it getting canceled.
i don't expect him to finish without superrally. most newcomers who try to push don't make it to the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
Yes? Both Neuville and Sordo had podium speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Sordo jumped off stage from 4th after winning a stage.
Neuville first went off road from 3rd then ripped a wheel off from 3rd in that cut on Panzerplatte right after he overtook Ogier.
Solberg, Mikkelsen and Kopecky all testing for Skoda Motorsport.. are they all going to Ypres?
It was Pirelli test...Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Reports from France suggest Kopecky was driving Skoda fits with Michelin.
Apparently Skoda Motorsport will have four cars running in Ypres, i don't know who will be the drivers except Solberg.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Tidemand, Brynildsen by Toksport, and maybe Solberg and... Meeke by Skoda Motorsport? :)
Kopecky? Someone from Belgium?
What about Loix? Hard to believe he would miss Ypres when it becomes a WRC round.
He's not going to drive in Ypres. Plenty of other fast Belgian drivers to mix in the RC2-competition though. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Are you sure?Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
Solberg, Mikelssen, Kopecky, Loix?Quote:
Originally Posted by wwbroe
Andreas says he and Ola Floene have some tests and events lined up, so maybe Ypres in a Pirelli sponsored 'Skoda Motorsport Customer Racing' Fabia?
https://www.instagram.com/p/CGP49jpn...d=ljyh7t39mtfy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2grA1cqojaMQuote:
Originally Posted by Tom K
Correct..although when Meeke was testing with Skoda he tried Michelin and Pirelli too.
Ypres Rally and Jan Yperman Hospital agree for 2.500 Covid tests
"All participants and employees will be tested"
https://mailchi.mp/ypresrally/rentie...ov-wrc-5263629
Ott Tänak is also entered for the South Belgian Rally. So both Tänak and Breen on this event on saturday, while Ogier and Evans will take on another event on sunday. Still no sign of M-Sport's WRC cars doing anything at all.
Weird to see neuville not participating anywhere. Some more testing never hurts.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
Coronavirus: Belgium facing 'tsunami' of new infections
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54602999
As clear demonstration of the trend of last two years as is possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
FIA limited testing days to limit costs. Teams that have money did a "workaround" by running only local events for testing purposes. Teams that don't have money got a bigger disadvantage.
Yet some people still applaud this cause they "get to see the cars" at their local events. Usually with no competition at all.
Τom i d like to see your comment at thisQuote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
Yannick Willocx
@YannickWillocx
Preparation of ypres.. this i dont get..very different stages. And the sunday stages around Spa are also different in my point of view
https://twitter.com/YannickWillocx/s...26500269461504
I agree with Yannick, maybe they plan SBR as only prep for Sunday stages. And Friday/Saturday with some PET's on flanders roads.. Also Ostberg will start this Saturday.
On a side note Loix will be gravel crew of Tanak for Ypres and this weekend in Semois..
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Wow, that Loix thing is interesting.. short and unexpected season.. all cards are played for best results.Quote:
Originally Posted by mousti
Already waiting for what the teams will do to prepare WRC cars for circuit racing in Monza..
Some official test days on circuits etc..?
I mostly agree with this. The stages aren't very similar to Ypres nor Spa. However it's a bit like comparing Finland to Poland for example. Is it exactly the same? No, but what works there could work elsewhere too, and you get the feeling on tarmac back. There's 1,5 months between Sardinia and Ypres, so definitely interesting to gain some more mileage in between. The Hemicuda Rally might be better for being more similar to Ypres, but you have only half as many stage kilometers.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
That is not really a side note to me. That seems like a big advantage for him, loix is perhaps the best ouvreur one could find for ypres.Quote:
Originally Posted by mousti
It's not like Freddy Loix is the only one who knows this event... What can be a bit of an obstacle however is that Loix isn't familiar with the pacenote system of Tänak. Ypres is different from other events that you have a lot of time to add more things in the notes to make them more precise. Freddy can play a big role, and Tänak might be just the (Hyundai)driver who needs him most right now.
Thierry Neuville has Bruno Thiry, Ogier usually works with Jean-Joseph (who has been on the podium in Ypres too). A bit further in the field, former winner Hänninen worked for Katsuta in the past, in the R5 category Bouffier worked for Oliver Solberg during last Monte Carlo... Wondering if anyone's willing to take Meeke's or Abbrings advice for this event. :)
And Patrick Snijers will show up with a perpetual 911 ;)
US events have been picking up in the fall but I'm reluctant to get involved this year. I'm surprised Belgium is going ahead with the rally.
The situation in Spain it's probably (and sadly) even worse but that didn't prevent them to start today their cycling tour, with outsanding safety measures (which apparently are working as it was impossible to see large crowds during leg 1). Anyway, fingers crossed for Ypres.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC