Not a bad idea either.
At the same time you could visit Alko1000 store in Valka (Latvian side of the border) to equip with some VERY cheap breweries.
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Not a bad idea either.
At the same time you could visit Alko1000 store in Valka (Latvian side of the border) to equip with some VERY cheap breweries.
Any route details yet?
4person apartment booked in Tarto centrum. Hopefully corona stays away...
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Originally Posted by Tarmop
https://sport.postimees.ee/7014626/e...904.1564336628Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
Guess I was not that optimistic.
Long story short, rally passes will be with reasonable prices.
https://www.rallit.fi/viron-mm-ralli...alle-mietitty/
Starting order will be changed already at Saturday midday service into reversed order of current standings. Good news for Ogier and Evans.
Google translate is really bad translating finnish.
Reverse championship order or reversed RE standings from that point?
Reversed RE standings of course. What would be done before Saturday morning is now done at Saturday noon because the rally runs for two days only.
Well, if its really dry and loose they could still be first on the road even after midday service.
Well at least Katsuta will most likely be the slowest WRC (or maybe we have Georg Gross or Loubet or someone else on a WRC car?), someone might run into trouble.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tauri_J
Confirmation by Dirtfish..
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/road-...ost-for-ogier/
2020 Katsuta has never been slowest WRC, thatīs Greensmithīs job :)Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Do we have a hint that Greensmith will start in Estonia?Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
Damn, I'd really like to see the itinerary already. 160 km saturday is a long long day.
[QUOTE=AnttiL;1247819]Do we have a hint that Greensmith will start in Estonia?[/QUOTE
There would be little benefit for Greensmith to bother with Estonia if it's not going to be a future event.
I imagine this will be the same attitude for many WRC2/3 drivers
Ogier having a laugh again....Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
But I welcome this it should be like this in every rallyQuote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
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No. But plan was all EURO events.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
MSport "Star" Deividas Jocius shoud be there ...
or did he retire completely?
Basically as long as a lot of local rally's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tauri_J
16 000 attenders will be allowed.
Rallypass will be 65 euros and you will be allowed to see 5 stages with it. There will be like 16 different packages of passes to choose from.
The rally passes are divided into 16 different packages, each package sells 1000 pieces. Through this, the organizer can ensure that each group of 1000 members moves in their own time and location channel according to a different program of the whole rally weekend. The groups of 1000 members given in the area and during the rally do not come into contact with each other and do not mix.
The packages will be made available in the end of July.
To say the truth, I am curious how this should work...Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
It wont, there will be people all over the forest. How in the world they can control it?
Sounds like a reasonable solution but I guess it wont be controllable indeed.
it doesn't need to be controlled, they just make it look like that.
Sounds reasonable. Shame that the tickets will probably fly off the shelves.
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Originally Posted by MartijnS
Some things you should consider with this mindset:Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
- Aava talks often, that this is just a start (expectation is to have more WRC events in Estonia) and they NEED to do perfect rally, they need to show to the world, that they are the best = they can not fail
- Estonian government is heavily involved, they can not fail either
Personally I expect police and other structures strongly involved to keep this event like it's planned on the paper.
I don't recommend to have "a plan" to just go out and "let's watch it from some forest".
All the 00-cars going through before the rally cars will be crucial to checking the spectators. If fans dont obey they can be responsible for stages being cancelled.
Thre was an interview on the radio with org. commity and they told they are covering all the forest entrances and if you do not have a rally pass do not even try to get to the stage. Might be true. But definitly will take a huge human resource to control it. And definitely they are not able to cover all the forest paths.
Aava said yesterday approx 2500 officials working during the rally. That says it allQuote:
Originally Posted by linni
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Best way to get a guaranteed ticket and chance for the best spectating!Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
I'm not sure what point you are trying to make, but that probably will be way to less to enforce those rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
Rally germany has about 3000 people working, finland about 4500. And they get nowhere near the lockdown off stages estonia wants to achieve.
forests (areas with rally roads) in Estonia are private or national? if national I can't see any way to not allow people go into forest, you can't close it and sell tickets for some small amount of people...
Even if he forest is private, according to Estonian law if the road into the forest / area does not have any sign to be private area or if the road is not closed by fence / gates / boom, person is allowed to enter the area from sunrise to sunset.
Both private and national are being usedQuote:
Originally Posted by br21
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Same situation in Finland and during Rally they can close all access roads and sell tickets to everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
I see it like Rally Organization has rented those areas and have control.
My advice would be:
Buy ticket or stay home.
I hope spectators donīt ruin the Rally.
Same. Really hope that people would use their head more in this situation. Either follow the rules or follow it online.Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
You can always legally close off parts of the countryside or forests temporarily. Many types of events do this for the safety of the public, not just when they want to charge people.
If it was closing off public access permanently, that would need a law change.
Possible threat to M-Sport entry... :(
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdOcQXoX...png&name=small
Richard Millener, head of M-Sport's rally department, told Motorsport News that quarantine would be too much for the team.
"I have been asked this and the answer is two letters: € and Ģ. There is no option for our budget to allow employees to sit in Estonia for just two weeks," Millener said.
"It wouldn't make sense to quarantine the hotel for two weeks anyway. Even if the race organizers and the FIA paid the costs, it would be very difficult for me to ask the staff to come several weeks in advance and then go straight from Estonia to Turkey and maybe Belgium for the rally." he added.
Source:
https://m.sport.delfi.ee/wrc/article.php?id=90480811
It's getting out of hand really...
Just get each team member tested everyday. Cost of the event organizers/FIA
It can't be that freaking hard!
You really donīt understand how this virus works.Quote:
Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1
If you think only those ~16k people who will have tickets will come to event then I think you're bit wrong. If no border restrictions it may be most attended WRC event in recent years... Whole Estonia coming to see Tanak, huge amounts of people from Latvia/Lithuania, Poland. For sure a lot of people from Finland (already many of then in Viru). And quite many others. This I'm sure about. Doesn't matter if I like it or not, but that's the reality.
Would it be possible to make a special deal with government for example that M-Sport arrives let's say 3-5 days before the right time and they will test every team member every day and if there is no sign for disease then everything is ok. But I think there will be some kind of solution that M-Sport can participate. Our prime minister (and generally the whole government) is pro-rally (Rally Estonia) so I can imagine some kind of special deal put in place.