can anyone give info on spectating for weekend. Looking at rally passes and for weekend are €300 and only allow access to certain locations? Is this normal or what am I missing?
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can anyone give info on spectating for weekend. Looking at rally passes and for weekend are €300 and only allow access to certain locations? Is this normal or what am I missing?
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You dont need a rally pass. Access for the majority of spectator zones is free. With the rally pass you get access to two exclusive spectator areas and better parking, thats it. You can even wonder around the service park for free.Quote:
Originally Posted by DocMS
I was thinking was bit on the expensive side. So without the passes to these spectator areas is it easy enough to get to the stages etc. First time to Portugal so bit on the unknown. Some stuff I have read up on says that it's very tightly control for getting to and from the stages.Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
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You’ll be only restricted if you try to go outside the spectators zones (ZE’s), which are usually in good spots and easy to reach. In a few days the info about this year ZE’s will be available in the rally site, but you can check last year Saturday and Sunday ZE’s once they’ll probably be the same (from ZE 21 forwards): https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...bEb4t3vJ90OkCYQuote:
Originally Posted by DocMS
Gaia Street Stage will not take place due to lack of funding from the municipality.
Oh damn, it looked like a really good street stage...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sardalense
The rally is done, no more Rally de Portugal in WRC, I guess oficial announcement after the end of this year's rally
That’s a pretty stupid thing to say. You can’t take Gaia street stage cancellation and make wild assumptions about the whole Rally. This was an isolated incident of a SSS promoter that won’t affect the overall organization or stop this year Rally de Portugal to be a success, as usual.Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
With the addition of the iconic Arganil stages to the North legs the rally is more challenging for crews and teams and more exciting for fans than ever before. At the end of the event no one will remember the absence of a SSS and everybody will be eager to return next year to celebrate this fantastic sport in some of the most popular and iconic rally stages of the world!
Thats not at all a "stupid" thing to say. This is not about the petty Gaia street stage. Many things are happening behind the scenes and the decision is already made, ACP is just waiting for the end of the race for the official announcement. Why do you figure all of the sudden multiple local entities have decided to stop supporting the rally?! It is simply because they would not have an easy time explaining such big investments to have promotion for just one more year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
Stop the BS for gods sake. You’re just speculating and damaging Rally de Portugal image; that’s more than stupid, that’s preposterous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
Only Gaia pulled out; all the others partners kept their commitments towards ACP, the organizer. It’s never easy to get the proper budget for such a huge event, in Portugal or in any other WRC country, and the ACP has always managed to sort it out, no matter what. If you’re Portuguese you should know it and show some support, instead of talking rubbish.
Check back in June then. Multipe individuals working on the organization have already left ship.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
More BS. Having people entering or leaving a company is a normal thing; what’s not normal is to see an alleged fan sorting info in a speculative and harmful way, like you’re doing. You should be ashamed of yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
http://sportmotores.com/portal/!site...20055&id=54385Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
Easy with the accusations. I know some of what has been happening behind the scenes, and it is not pretty. Truth and transparency are always more important than skme BS nationalism. How would you feel if you were organizing a trip for a event that will not happen?!
You know nothing, for gods sake. First you’ve speculated next year rally was doomed, now you’re suggesting this year rally won’t happen. Get real and stop the BS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
Btw, the rally HQ is already starting to be built on Exponor.
WHAT?! Where have I said this years edition will be cancelled?! Christ almighty do you know how to read?! Ofcourse this years edition will be on the road, if there is a shortage of funds ACP will cover it. Next year there will not be a Rally de Portugal in the WRC, obviously you are having problems dealing with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
This sort of hinted in that directionQuote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
Because I doubt anyone is organizing a trip a rally which is run 12 months from now...Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
The article posted is just another indication of what a troublesome last few months ACP had.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
I never said or suggested this years rally was in danger.
http://portocanal.sapo.pt/comentario/392
An interview with the President of Porto and North Tourism, one of Rally de Portugal major partners, saying what I’ve said previously: the event won’t be affected by Gaia pull out as this was an isolated incident and all the other partners kept their commitments towards the organizer.
He also mentioned that RdP is a vital event for the local and national economy, deserving to be supported by the region and the country authorities. No direct question was made about the rally future once no one, apart some hysterical fans, believes it’s at risk.
Hope this will end, once for all, with the useless speculation.
When will the entry list be published?
Greensmith is driving Fiesta WRC. Anyone remembers if he has more rallies planned with it?
It has always been spoken of as one drive, no mention of any more.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
I imagine that decision will rest with his Father alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
https://itgetsfasternow.com/2019/05/...portugal-2019/
Route Preview on It Gets Faster Now!
Like mentioned before, the Coimbra area stages Gois, Lousa and Arganil on Friday with no midday service, then Lousada in the evening. Saturday and Sunday mostly like last year.
So no entrylist yet?
Need it for Pickems...
EDIT I calculated weeks wrongQuote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
More like two weeks, for spectators a bit more.
The spectator zones are scheduled to be released 2 weeks before the rally, so they might be released tomorrow or Thursday. I'm expecting the entry list to come out around the same timeQuote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
The videos of the Specatator zones are already online since yesterday: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...Gqgz2p759U_QS_
Looking for some help, I am staying in Porto on the Friday night and looking to go to the early Saturday morning service. What is the best way to travel from the center of Porto and then back and does anyone have a time for the morning service on the Saturday? Thanks
Best is by car but u can use train 601 from Cordoaria to Exponor in about 28 mins.
First service Saturday is 6.30 am. Njoy
Congrats Antti; really cool preview, as usual.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Not a big user of public transportation but I believe 601 is a bus, not a train. Anyway, it seems a smart option for visiting Friday and Saturday late afternoon services; thanks for the tip.Quote:
Originally Posted by CWJ
601 is neither train nor bus but the East German miracle on wheels called Trabant :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
Sorry, I could not resist.
I would strongly recommend renting a car or having another back up mode of transport - I remember couple of years ago when I visited the rally I relied on public transport for the first day of my visit getting to and from the airport to Exponor and for various reasons many of the scheduled bus services did not materialise and had to get a taxi back to the airport. Looking back, it would have been faster to walk :). For the second day I had a car as I planned on visiting the shakedown and then back to the service park, which worked great. Anyway, the weather and the general atmosphere were great, people there are very passionate about the rally.Quote:
Originally Posted by df93
RdP spectator’s guide is already available on the rally site:
http://www.rallydeportugal.pt/conten...aspx?menuid=52
Am I missing something? In 2 weeks this event will be almost over and still no entry list?🤔
Perhaps, hopefully, something interesting going on behind the scenes...
Like...?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarmop
Would have loved to see Loeb again, but both Sordo and Mikkelsen already completed their PET sessions this week.
Entry list still to aprroval by FIA.
One manufacter changed drivers according last infos.
Oooh....?! So who's been changed then do we think?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Surely has to be Hyundai, so Mikkelsen or Sordo has been dumped if rumours are true?
We'll see what actually happens, but all the people I see mentioned are strange in their own ways:
Hyundai - (note that they were they highest scoring team in South America, so why change now?)
Mikkelsen (for Loeb) - While dropping him for Corsica was logical for multiple reasons, this wouldn't be. Dropping after 1 bad rally (in last 9 months) where he still outscored both Toyotas and just after getting 2nd place ahead of Ogier. Portugal is also much more similar to Arg or Mexico than Chile and he always did good there.
Sordo (for Loeb) - He was slowest Hyundai in Argentina and not the fastest in Mexico, but can hardly blame him for the technical issues in Mexico and also on one SS in Argentina (that cost him 5th at minimum). He is typically the most stable 2/3 driver at Hyundai (Loeb included), has driven in Portugal the last few years and it's almost his home event.
While Loeb had level playing field in Chile, in Portugal he would be at quite some disadvantage since majority of stages are same as last years (and some of the new are known from tests). Also if he doesn't want to (or is not paid to) do more than 6 rallies this year it would be strange to "waste" him in Portugal where both other drivers are likely to do ok, while in multiple other rallies (GB, Spain, Germany, Finland) one or both are risky.
Citroen
Lappi (for Østberg or even Breen) - Yes he has had 4 bad rallies in a row. But he also did 2nd place in Sweden and Citroen is clearly not aiming for manu titles so don't see how it matters. Furthermore he signed for 2 years, dropping him for a rally this early would not really set good atmosphere for remaining 1,5 year.
Toyota
Latvala (for who?????) - He hasn't had a good rally in the 6 rounds so far, only Argentina was kind of mediocre (5th place), and only 1 clear technical issue (Mexico). But there is nobody around that can really be expected to do better in a Toyota on such a short notice.
Meeke(for who?????) - Also no really good results in the 6 rounds so far, 4th place from Argentina is decent though. But same as for Latvala there is nobody around to replace him.
MSport
Suninen (for who?) - As I understand he brings the money to drive the car, so I see this as impossible.