I prefer square big white numbers with 1 to who won the rally last edition and then by championship standings eheh
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I prefer square big white numbers with 1 to who won the rally last edition and then by championship standings eheh
F1 has 20 permanent numbers in each event, I hope we will same in WRC some day :)
(remember that only WRC17-19 drivers have permanent numbers)
Except F1 only has about 20 guys on track during the whole event.Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
I wish the national flags for the drivers in the side-window were bigger - much quicker & easier to identify.
For me thats ok, i like the smal details between the cars( like the roof air intake on a i20).Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
When standing on stages i sometimes find it amusing to here some "experts" calling the wrong drivers..
Exactly; besides, if these personal numbers thing is that important marketing wise (honestly I doubt it), we could accept having WRC1 manus drivers chossing numbers from 1 to 20 but allowing them to choose higher numbers is like pretending the rest of the field (WRC2, JWRC, National crews) isn’t important and could be dispensible. Maybe that’s what the promoter really thinks and wishes for the WRC…Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
I believe it is quite important for drivers fan gear, people can buy rather costly accessories for years, rather than a season and many consider buying now, as it is a onetime investment. Other than that, i personally couldn`t care less about the numbers, the last thing i look at when searching who is at the wheel.
Thinking about this more, I realised that all the WRC drivers have a co-driver of the same nationality. So they could just have one larger national flag next to their names instead of two small ones...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Well if the idea of permanent driver numbers is wrong, I wonder why so many cars in random cities wear a 46 near the rear screen ...
Circuit and rallysport is different story. On circuit races, you have cars/bikes together in one group on the circuit, they needs to have big numbers to be seen and spectators are recognizing that competitors via this big numbers or design of the bike/car. Rallysport is different story - when you are as spectator on the stage, you usually see only one car in one moment. So you have more time to concentrate to him, to look into entry list (which is usually seeded by starting numbers). As a fan, when you look at entry list, you are usually looking on the top because it is usual that with the smallest numbers are usually the fastest drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by CWJ
I also liked how rallying was different in having their seeding earned by the championship standings from the year before, in some national championships the first numbers are determined by the current championship standings. I think a top number should be earned by strong performances, not chosen. Also it's a bit ridiculous in WRC that there are so many "gaps" between the numbers. In a "normal" rally, number 50 should be +- the 49th car (excluding n°13) at the start of the event.
Nationality and license are two different things, Loeb-Elena being the best example...Tidemand-Floene etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
You described the past. But this is a try for the future....Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
What you wrote is only valid for Monte Day 1... not to forget JWRC numbers and Bertelli 37 and national startes up from 100 and ...
No, it is not valid only for Monte Day 1. They have starting numbers for whole event ;) Nobody takes care JWRC, they are somewhere down in the field. Same with national field. I am talking mainly about top drivers. Everybody arounds rallysport expects that driver with smaller number is better/faster. And it is also better for sponsors who are used to know the drivers with smaller drivers because they are top. For example I remember how "surprised" was Norbert Herczig last year, when he, as multi-national champion, received number 24 for Azores...Quote:
Originally Posted by CWJ
Everybody around rallysport should know: running order shoes potential and speed, not car number
Then why does the fastest guy not start first on the second and third leg?Quote:
Originally Posted by CWJ
Well, I like this idea.
Often I watch a pure sound video on youtube, and I don't know who is in the car except occasionally when there is a lingering shot on the side and I can read the names. Otherwise, it's "one of the Hyundais" or whatever. If the numbers stayed consistent enough for a casual internet rally fan like me to learn them, that would help.
All we need now is a rule that every car will have a large, clearly visible number on the front so we can see it whilst they are approaching the camera at the start of the (typical) clip.
Pluto, 80% of "fans" just have to review their cameras, GoPros or Smartphones... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
The true one with startinglist and pencil will know where to do the mark.
Btw: Herzig was 16th after day 1 ;) ... 9 places behind Bernardo Sousa with #31
I love that FIA is pushing for personal numbers in more championships. it helps to establish a strong brand.
Until 2018, part-time drivers would use different numbers each race. Hey, Grönholm was champion in 2000 with two different numbers. it was a chaos.
Or then one could say just as boldly that having permanent team numbers helps to establish a strong brand.Quote:
Originally Posted by NaBUru38
No it wasn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by NaBUru38
I agree, now it is a bigger chaos...Quote:
Originally Posted by Myrvold
It is quite funny that everyone who has chosen higher than usual number failed in Monte. Also Loeb, who has 19, was not on his usual pace...
except NeuvilleQuote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
11 is ok number, between top crews. 33 or 89 is nonsense...Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
There were a lot of understandably very confused French people around me last weekend perplexed by the order on day 1 not tallying up with their print out of the entry. Still, nice to make the sport more accessible though hey.Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
44 Greensmith
69 Hänninen
Hänninen :DQuote:
Originally Posted by able1
Why Juho, why?Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Stupid rules, stupid choices
Don't think dirtyQuote:
Originally Posted by Allez Andruet
#42 Breen
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I’ll be competing with the #42, a number I’ve raced with since my first year in karting in 1998, and that has always been very lucky. Let’s hope it remains that way!”
Will Jouni Virtanen get permanent number ?
If yes, I hope he takes #2 ;)
Whats Ogier's number (other than 1)
Never been mentioned anywhere, I believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by dnb
Takamoto Katsuta will get his own now also.
We'll never find out.Quote:
Originally Posted by dnb
Paddon's number?
20 would be perfect (Hyundai i20)Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
18 Virtanen
20 Paddon
Hayden was #20 when he won Argentina 2016.Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
Hayden's birthday is on April 20th.
Hayden's autobiography is being released on August 20th