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Originally Posted by Tom206wrc
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Oh no :(
Thanks for the info Mousti...
Postponed actually. They hope to find a new date later in the calendar.Quote:
Originally Posted by mousti
Sensible decision, but the event only had 5/6 R5 cars, and originally cancelled a day of action. Whether they can get a new date is debatable; as I think that's 3 gravel events trying to reschedule for later in the year.
As for the BRC, there need to be another discussion on what it's meant to be. BTCC, BSB, British GT all have healthy entries and good series, so why is rallying the poor relation?
I'd say here in the UK we are a unique case.
Despite having 2 WRC drivers, a WRC event, which pulled in massive crowds - we're actually almost a rallying backwater. Remember the IRC Scottish Rally that ran for only 3 years? Very few home drivers bothered to enter. Why?
The BTRDA is a nice national club series, but surely people want to do more than a 45 mile event? Or do they? We once had the BTRDA, then the ANCRO which were about 60-70 miles events, and then the BRC which were 120+ miles.
Yes, motorsport is expensive, but other British motorsport series seem to manage, so what is why can't rallying? Is it lack of sponsors due to poor media coverage, etc
I am not following BRC so close, but from my point of view as person from outside - BRC should more focus to be a national championship, not international. Not so much try to bring foreign drivers or organising foreign event abroad, but focus on persuading drivers from all parts of United Kingdom and Ireland to do that championship.
Exactly! Which is what the other UK motorsport series are like - and they are a success. It should be showcase for the sport in the UK.Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
They can make strong national championship with good international crews, like it was in the history. But now they should primary focus on local drivers, grow their interest, show them that they should be interested to do the championship, that it has great value. Go step by step. It is same like with drivers career - you should go from smaller cars and smaller championships to WRC. There is not so many drivers who started immediatelly in WRC (or ERC) and succeed...
I think perhaps the BRC was let to go too far down, in fact so far down that it disappeared. The re-launch was, in hindsight, a false dawn.
Everyone hoping it was going to go on to great things but in fact if we are honest we were just kidding ourselves.
I'm sorry to be so pessimistic but I dont think its looking good for the future with the failure of some events to happen, organisers getting older and retiring, a lack of marshals and very low key media interest. :(
Both Malcolm Wilson & Border Counties now pulled.......not good, all the time and hard work by volunteers - gone! I'm particularly angry about the MW, as they had help from other events, and seemed to have a date/ dates - but the North Lakes forestry wouldn't allow access. Poor...is one day really too much to ask?
60 Years of the BRC...
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/fea...ar-motorsport/
Blimey, reading that you'd think the BRC was in rude health.......it couldn't be further from the truth. Watching both BSB and British GT over the weekend, one couldn't help feeling a tad jealous; strong entries, live TV/ streaming, decent sponsors, etc The modern BRC has nothing.
Oh boy, that is quite something Mr Evans...
https://i.imgflip.com/27r89r.jpg
If you ignore the reality of the current BRC like David Evans has it's actually a nice little article for a more mainstream audience, but even the quotes used by him (and the BRC itself) singing the virtues of the BRC are completely hollow, though I appreciate they were probably made around 2016. Ari Vatanen saying “The BRC is a fantastic proving ground for any young driver [...] the BRC: the best national rallying series in the world.” Yet, where's Max Vatanen...? In reality the BRC would now struggle to be considered for inclusion in a top 10 list of national rally championships, let alone challenge for the top spot... “It’s the place to be for any aspiring young driver who wants to make the step-up to international rallying,” says Malcolm Wilson. “Attracting young talent with its mix of gravel and asphalt rallies, the British Rally Championship really does provide the perfect platform for those looking to develop their skills and make a name for themselves among the rallying elite.” Yet this year he's running two gentleman drivers, and hasn't ran an 'aspiring young driver' in his BRC R5 team since Elfyn in 2016.
Then the calendar at the end. The Ypres Rally is a great event in and of itself, but it shouldn't be in the British Championship, it looks so out of place on that calendar. The UK arguably has too many rallies, with the vast majority of them lacking any kind of prestige as events. The British Championship going to Belgium for what is now 20% of its calendar to find an actual 'event' is a probably deserved slap in the face for British rallying, but doesn't do anything to help it. Even more so when the BRC guys can't compete with the Belgium Championship regulars, so doesn't even help the British Championship's image itself...
Unless some philanthropist or the MSA comes along with a desire to return the BRC to what it was, putting some money into the Championship and its events, I can't how the fortunes of the BRC can be changed. It's fallen too far. The 2016 relaunch wasn't built on any real foundations at all and that has revealed itself in the state of the BRC today.
Me Replying to @MSAUKQuote:
Originally Posted by the sniper
"In its diamond year, the BRC has rarely shone so brightly." ??
Sorry, but no. It's now in a sad state for rallies, entries and even marshals. :(
Maybe they're getting confused with the BTCC, which is also celebrating 60 years.......
Penasse probably regrets already his decision.
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I haven't seen that story, but I can guess that maybe the importers in those countries are quite friendly to the sport, in regards to one make series.
Jamie Brown spent years in Belgium because it's quite cheaper than on home soil.
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I don't blame anyone for going abroad for their sport; they seem to get better value for money.
Going slightly off topic, but UK Off road motorsport is the poor relation, when compared to circuit racing.
A big part of the reason for that is an awful lot of those within rallying don't understand/see the benefit in spending on promotion.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
I've customers in both sectors, circuit racing totally gets the whole image / fan engagement / speculate to accumulate angle. Bar a handful in rallying there's an inward looking attitude and any cost/time commitment outside of the actual car there's total disinterest.
A good example is look where start venues for rallies are and the times thereof
I remember that well - the whole town embraced the event - that is what a National Championship should be like. Oh, and by the way that was 1999......we're now in 2018......Quote:
Originally Posted by Sal the 2nd
Some good news at last !
Cronin Returns – The Drive For Five
Reigning Prestone MSA British Rally Champions Keith Cronin and co-driver Mikie Galvin will return to Britain’s premier rallying series in a Hyundai i20 R5 in 2018.
Click https://t.co/7VZkaRCpc2 to read more
#BRC #DriveForFive https://t.co/hzAoGOgl5e
No live radio coverage or streaming..?? It's only 2018....
Some events might arrange their own live radio or streams.
At least the new TV company means no more Jon Desborough ! :)
Quality is quite down this year. No Ahlin, Cave, Henry, Pryce etc.. Quite a pity
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I wonder if Steve Rökland from Norway will run the entire BRC this season :confused:
I think moving to Greenlight is probably a good move. The last two years the coverage has been sufficient, but not overly slick. The old Greenlight coverage in the past was a more polished product.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Yep, and not one top name coming in to replace them.Quote:
Originally Posted by mousti
The only real change of interest is the switch to an i20 for Cronin.
Talking of coverage; did anybody see the Otago Rally in NZ weekend before last? Live coverage on Facebook - That is what I'd like to see somebody do in the BRC.
By reading most posts on this thread one may think the BRC is a walking dead series, but after checking the Pirelli entry list it seems that’s not quite the case.
http://www.pirelliinternationalrally...ed-Entries.pdf
Don't you guys consider that 13 R5 cars, with 4 or 5 drivers probably able to fight for the win, and plenty of young crews in Junior/Cadet classes are hopeful signs for this season BRC?
Btw, why aren’t all R5 cars seeded as BRC1 (some appears as RC2 or Class7)?
In this case the data in the Championship column isn't completely accurate; for a more accurate version direct from the BRC Coordinator see http://results.djames.org.uk/results...ntID=527&m=110 which shows 30 BRC crews which is two down on 2017 for this event.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sal the 2nd
Yeah there are maybe 8 BRC runners. Greer is entered but won't do Ypres eventhough it fits him well.. I expect in Ypres Cronin, Edwards, Bogie, Laffey, Yates, McCormack and Preston. And maybe the unknown Whyte and Kakad..
Time to get ERC back in Ypres.. It's a pity though..
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The Championship has lost several top drivers from 2017 as Mousti pointed out... and as I said, they havent been replaced. This cant make one hopeful for the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
The series is still alive... but only just.
David Bogie is playing his Joker on the Pirelli Rally.
It's not just the WRC; both British GT and BTCC have rounds this weekend.....and with the best will in the world, even they're much bigger than the BRC, and are more media savvy than the BRC.
Its also a WRX weekend in Montalegre.
With live coverage of WRC, WRX, BTCC & F1, the Pirelli wont get a look-in...
Cronin
Had a good shakedown here in Kielder yesterday @PirelliRally . Phillip Case and his team have the Hyundai i20 perfectly set up, looking forward to getting to grips with the famous Kielder Forest stages . https://t.co/qb9arWiuTI
Cronin off to a flyer but Edwards quicker on SS2...