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I voted to keep them purely from selfish reasons.
Getting my disabled brother to a stage is nigh on impossible.
These stadiums mean we all get a day out - including my mom.
Sure, they know they're not seeing a proper rally (my bother even came out and serviced for me before things became the way they are) but they're there seeing the cars and enjoying themselves.
Now, maybe we should have had a different poll - one that took into account the incompotence of the organising team
An even better question would be, 'How many of us (despite your negative stances on SSS) watched the Cordoba broadcast on WRC.com after they offered it for free this weekend?'Quote:
Originally Posted by JAM
I'll start. I watched it.Quote:
Originally Posted by GunsofNavarone
All sports have social aspect, yes SSS may not be true rally but every sport should be somehow accessible for ordinary people.Quote:
Originally Posted by pino
@ you and J4MIE, why do you guys punish yourself by going to SSS? Normally people who don't like something they don't do it ;)
True, but I still go to my job every day...Quote:
Originally Posted by jparker
SSS is for young boys ho never saw a real rally! :eek: ;)
haha true :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother John
Thursdays SSS is better than no rally at all. Like "Killeri" here in Jyväskylä Finland
Some are good, depends when they are on
Like 2007 argentina, they shouldnt have started with a stage 700km from the next stage.
I voted for keeping SSS. As long as SSS won't affect the rest of day, having one extra SSS at the end of the day on top of a proper day of rallying doesn't really hurt anybody. Also I think SSS is good for sponsors/VIP's of the teams/rally.
Quick question..... is an SSS for you guys two cars competing against each other or one? (like NZ)?
Yeah, in the past everything was better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother John
Old man :) time has changed. Before you watch rally, it was different then in your time.
We live in a dynamic world. So the sport is dynamic too.
I loved the old special stage in Portugal when they did the Estoril circuit. Other than that I understand the point of SSS but I don't think they are well conceived. They're basically, narrow, short and pointles in terms of competition outcome. Most of the drivers have more to lose than to win in those stages so they don't even really try.
I voted them to go at least the way they are now. Rallying is/was other thing.
3 cars on stage?! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Donney
Just make them more interesting and there isnt a problem with them. I prefer single file runs over slightly longer (but still short) distances, but a 2car special could be ok if more thought was given to it. In terms of putting them in stadiums I initially thought it was stupid, but taking these things literally as 'shows' its probably the best place for them. I've spectated at the old Silverstone Superspecial and Killeri. At both viewing was completely awful and I can honestly say I would have had more fun in the car park at Killeri 2005. So in that sense a stadium at least allows you to watch the cars and get more people there, sponsors, tv crews, whatever. I hate them because they have got lazy but there is probably a need for them. At least we take them for what they are as well as the drivers who dont try.
They dont convey what rallying 'truely' is to the masses but more and more rallying is shifting away from what it truely was anyway. This past few days has really brought that to our attention.
I agree, thursday SSS are OK. That doesn't screw up the rally itself. Of course, a good location is important.Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
I love watching them on tv. They need to stay. Rally GB used to be so great when it came to Silverstone.
The first SS WRC victory for Carlos Sainz in 1987 with the Marlboro Ford Sierra Cosworth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donney
In Portugal we had an important role in SSS. Estoril, Braga (only 2 years plenty of dust), Lousada, Baltar and now Algarve stadium.
:) It's the other way around Brother, but I'll keep quite now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother John
Too many are the same, don't give the drivers a chance to fling the cars about. I'd prefer a short special stage, i.e a lap of a GP circuit, country house stage, small forest stage,etc.
Just put my vote in and its now a tie on 43 a piece...
I think they should go. As read previously, I think out of stadium SSS are better than these crawl around stages at the moment, but I can see why they do them. I've only been to the Silverstone SSS, I don't bother with Cardiff. For disabled spectators they're very good but the only reason they would really do them is for a) attracting sponsors and b) the revenue. Having grown up with rallying though, it belongs in the countryside and not is a stadium.
One per rally to finish off the second leg I think would be acceptable.