Would Kimi be an unappealing champion?

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14th December 2006, 21:53
Ian McC

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Originally Posted by fousto

He would be a great champion - plus you might get to see some decent chicks hanging around and get free Vodka after the race. Go Kimi GO !!

:laugh:
23rd December 2006, 20:12
agwiii

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Originally Posted by F1boat

I think that Kimi's dull behaviour was a result of McLaren's corporate image. I think that he'll be different in Ferrari. Look at DC.

I think Kimi's dull behavior is inherent.
24th December 2006, 18:13
Dzeidzei

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Originally Posted by Priorat

Driving is what really matters. For behaviours outside of workplace look for the pink press. And for those who want funny press conferences, don't care:
Kimi wining will produce lots of stupid comments from Alonso

Wining? You mean drinking wine? FYI Kimi´s fav drink is called Black Russian. I would not call him a wine drinker.

If youre talking about WHINING, then Id say Alonso is the whiner of those 2. Remember, after a minor difficulty during last season he started whining about not getting full support from his team. Everyone knows thats BS.

However, if you mean the way Kimi talks, youre right. I wouldnt hire him as an opera singer. But if I could pick any guy to drive for my F1 team, Id definitely pick Kimi. No question about it.
24th December 2006, 19:25
Mihai

I'm OK with Raikkonen as he is now. I don't want him to be what he is not. He's certainly a character in the F1 paddock and he would be an interesting figure among the F1 champions.

Besides that, I believe we can expect a slight change in the way he reacts, in the years he will spend as a Ferrari driver. His image as the 'Iceman' was more appropriate for a McLaren-Mercedes driver. I'm not saying he will become exuberant as an Italian, but the warm atmosphere at Ferrari is contagious.
24th December 2006, 22:15
Scuderia ferrari

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Originally Posted by guernsey kau

I'm afraid Kimi Raikkonen has to be favored for the 2007 world championship. "Afraid", I say, because, from what I've gathered, he would make a very unappealing champion. He seems equal parts dull (his interviews), cold (no signs of human feeling), and coarse (the incidents at strip clubs, telling Martin Brundel he was "having a s--t").
Has anyone out there got any contradictory information--anecdotes, comments from people who know him, firsthand observations? If you've got info that confirms my impressions, that would be of interest, too. The next-best thing to a star to cheer is a villain to root against.
Oh, by the way: Kimi's countryman Mika Hakkinen was also criticized for his dull interviews, but if you watched closely, you could see his warmth, his sly humor. And behind-the-scenes comments that I've read tend to describe Mika as decent, classy, with a private sense of fun---quite different.

i agree, mika was part of the water battle in the press confrence one time with irvine, which was funny!

Me and my dad actuly laughed when he said he was having a....ahem, never mind, because that's the first time he actuly showed humor and smiled.

Hopefully ferrari can work his dullness out of him, but what can you expect driving for mclaren up to now? How can you happy about the realiability there?
25th December 2006, 14:14
jens

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Originally Posted by F1boat

I think that Kimi's dull behaviour was a result of McLaren's corporate image.

Don't think so, because he was like that already in Sauber. I'd say that his interviews have become more understandable than they were then. :p : Anyway, "The Ferrari era" might change him slightly, but not completely.
27th December 2006, 11:00
Ranger

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Originally Posted by Dzeidzei

Wining? You mean drinking wine? FYI Kimi´s fav drink is called Black Russian. I would not call him a wine drinker.

If youre talking about WHINING, then Id say Alonso is the whiner of those 2. Remember, after a minor difficulty during last season he started whining about not getting full support from his team. Everyone knows thats BS.

I think he means "winning".
27th December 2006, 15:29
fly_ac

Would Kimi be an unappealing champion?

I don't think so, because if people post threads on a public forum about someone then I would say that makes a person appealing.

At least if Kimi is Champion in 2007 he can say things like.......
"I drove the SH!*$ out of the car" OR "Everybody behind me had to eat SH!*T for today’s victory"

Maybe that will make him appealing if not the POSTS on the Forum. :)
28th December 2006, 01:48
agwiii

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Originally Posted by Dzeidzei

Wining? You mean drinking wine? FYI Kimi´s fav drink is called Black Russian.

Very interesting. This is a major "chick drink," just after the Cosmopolitan. I think Kimi and Fast Freddie need to go to finishing school -- or Paris Island.
2nd January 2007, 06:09
Mjfan12

As long as he brings another title to the Scuderia I will be happy.
2nd January 2007, 12:15
Dzeidzei

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Originally Posted by agwiii

Very interesting. This is a major "chick drink," just after the Cosmopolitan. I think Kimi and Fast Freddie need to go to finishing school -- or Paris Island.

Im not so sure about this chick drink thing... I know Cosmo is one, but Black Russian? Well, maybe we like our women differently. Maybe you like them hairier...

:)
2nd January 2007, 14:03
agwiii

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Originally Posted by Dzeidzei

Im not so sure about this chick drink thing... I know Cosmo is one, but Black Russian? Well, maybe we like our women differently. Maybe you like them hairier...

I have no doubt that we like our women differently. One of the factors that separates drinks is their sweetness, and the BR is rather sweet as is the Cosmo. Here they are usually served in a "cocktail" glass (aka Martini glass).

:)

Back to racing.
3rd January 2007, 09:34
Dzeidzei

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Originally Posted by agwiii

I have no doubt that we like our women differently. One of the factors that separates drinks is their sweetness, and the BR is rather sweet as is the Cosmo. Here they are usually served in a "cocktail" glass (aka Martini glass).

:)

Back to racing.

Okay, its not the same drink then. Finnish men dont use coctail glasses, thats more an American thing.

Back to racing :)
3rd January 2007, 15:35
agwiii

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Originally Posted by Dzeidzei

Back to racing :)

Back to racing :)
3rd January 2007, 15:44
Knock-on

I think Kimi would be a great Champion. He has already proved he has a wickedly dry sense of humour, he knows how to let his hair down and speaks his mind (last race anyone :laugh: )

In fact, if I was going out for a beer with anyone of the current crop, I think Kimi would be my first choice for a good night out.
3rd January 2007, 18:32
Viv

Well seeing the number of fans he has I don't think he would be unappealing. Would be a very popular champion I think, well..more than Alonso atleast :p :
4th January 2007, 11:32
Knock-on

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Originally Posted by Viv

Well seeing the number of fans he has I don't think he would be unappealing. Would be a very popular champion I think, well..more than Alonso atleast :p :

I agree with you there.

It's pretty hard to make an opinion on Alonso as he doesn't seem to come across to anyone. Perhaps in Spain people know him but I haven't a clue who he is.

Kimi on the other hand is instantly identifiable. Possibly, the very reason that people don't understand him is the identity he personifies.
4th January 2007, 15:41
EuroTroll

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Originally Posted by Mihai

He's certainly a character in the F1 paddock and he would be an interesting figure among the F1 champions.

Yes, exactly. Love him or hate him, Kimi is a very strong and unique character. Well worth his place among the Champions, should it happen.
4th January 2007, 17:25
Viv

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

I agree with you there.

It's pretty hard to make an opinion on Alonso as he doesn't seem to come across to anyone. Perhaps in Spain people know him but I haven't a clue who he is.

Kimi on the other hand is instantly identifiable. Possibly, the very reason that people don't understand him is the identity he personifies.

Agreed. Maybe people don't understand him coz of his voice in the press conferences or because he doesn't jump and shout after winning a race like Alonso does :p :
4th January 2007, 17:36
agwiii

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

In fact, if I was going out for a beer with anyone of the current crop, I think Kimi would be my first choice for a good night out.

That is exactly what Jean Todt has already warned Kimi about. :)
4th January 2007, 18:57
edbert

He's good if you need to tune your guitar while he's talking: B-Flat
4th January 2007, 23:27
Ranger

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Originally Posted by edbert

He's good if you need to tune your guitar while he's talking: B-Flat

I'll try that next time. :D
4th January 2007, 23:28
agwiii

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Originally Posted by edbert

He's good if you need to tune your guitar while he's talking: B-Flat

Okay, be careful being THAT funny! :up:
5th January 2007, 03:12
Tazio

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Originally Posted by PSfan

Is it just me, or is it a little worrysome, that we are more concerned about how Kimi will act in the post race interviews, then perhaps during the actual race?

Kimi can be as Dull as the grey sky on a dreary day during the post race conference, as long as the racing is exciting, isn't that what matters?

Though I imagine, they put a pole up, and a few strippers in that interview room, and I'm sure Kimi would come to life... :)

No!! It is not only you!!
I am continually amazed at fans pre-occupation with what I like to refer to the tabloid aspect of sport!
This guy is going to be a monster of a driver at Ferrari! Let him, as all other athletes speak with their performance.
Unless there is a big quality drop-off at Ferrari, Kimi stands an excellent chance too really smoke the field(definately not a sure thing)
If Kimi wins in a reserved social posture, I will find it apealing!
End of Story!!
5th January 2007, 12:29
fly_ac

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Originally Posted by Tazio

No!! It is not only you!!
I am continually amazed at fans pre-occupation with what I like to refer to the tabloid aspect of sport!
This guy is going to be a monster of a driver at Ferrari! Let him, as all other athletes speak with their performance.
Unless there is a big quality drop-off at Ferrari, Kimi stands an excellent chance too really smoke the field(definately not a sure thing)
If Kimi wins in a reserved social posture, I will find it apealing!
End of Story!!

I agree
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6th January 2007, 10:13
agwiii

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Originally Posted by Tazio

No!! It is not only you!! I am continually amazed at fans pre-occupation with what I like to refer to the tabloid aspect of sport!
This guy is going to be a monster of a driver at Ferrari! Let him, as all other athletes speak with their performance. Unless there is a big quality drop-off at Ferrari, Kimi stands an excellent chance too really smoke the field(definately not a sure thing) If Kimi wins in a reserved social posture, I will find it apealing! End of Story!!

I think this tabloid focus is due to a combination of factors. First, the British love their tabloids. Second, the season has not started.
6th January 2007, 10:36
Ian McC

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Originally Posted by agwiii

First, the British love their tabloids.

The cult of personality has reached epic proportions here so it doesn't surprise me, I am sure we are not the only country like it.
6th January 2007, 16:24
Tazio

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Originally Posted by Ian McC

The cult of personality has reached epic proportions here so it doesn't surprise me, I am sure we are not the only country like it.

Yes though The Brit's are famous for their Tabloid Papers, I believe this is a world-wide culture! I can't speak for other countries, in the good old U.S. of A. It is a national obsession! At least in Britain (and probably other European Nations) these rags are known for what they are, tabloid rags. We have tabloid fish wraps here as well. (In fact so numerous It boggles the mind) but I've always thought that there bunk about famous personalities, Elvis sightings, and close encounters with aliens were only consumed by bored house-wives!
I don't want to be a stick in the mud! Also I really don't have a problem with the personal misadventures of the drivers being discussed in these types of forums! I can just choose not to participate in those threads! I just take issue when the line gets blurred! I participate in this forum for opinion as well as information. I watch the news for current events. It seems more and more I turn on the local news and the stories are about TV reporters! Or updating current so called reality based TV show events. The weather report is” reality based”! Reports of world events are "reality based” Reality based television is nothing of the sort! They are just a way to get advertising dollars without having to pay real actors!
But I digress (It does feel really good to vent. I must say!) I guess I really just have a symantical objection to the way "appealing" is proposed, and approached in this thread. It's all in fun, and I'm not trying to dump on any individuals in this forum. I'm just so jacked up about the up coming season, I wish I could go to sleep tonight, wake up at 4:30am and turn on the pre race show for round one----Peace------- The "Taz"
6th January 2007, 16:43
EuroTroll

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Originally Posted by Ian McC

The cult of personality has reached epic proportions here so it doesn't surprise me, I am sure we are not the only country like it.

Indeed, Ian, it used to be you and Turkmenistan, but after the death of President Saparmurat Niyazov on December 21, I'm afraid it's now only you. :( :p :
6th January 2007, 17:18

There's still that North Korean bloke.

Ron Den Nis.
6th January 2007, 17:21
agwiii

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Originally Posted by Ian McC

The cult of personality has reached epic proportions here so it doesn't surprise me, I am sure we are not the only country like it.

You could be right.
6th January 2007, 17:24
agwiii

This is so off-topic

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Originally Posted by Tazio

Yes though The Brit's are famous for their Tabloid Papers, I believe this is a world-wide culture! I can't speak for other countries, in the good old U.S. of A. It is a national obsession!

The tabloids are a dying product in the United States. Their sales are primarily limited to supermarket checkoutlines. You'll see the elderly and/or housewives thumb through them, but very few buy such trash.
6th January 2007, 19:24
Tazio

No! Not really off topic! I think I'll clarify my point

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Originally Posted by agwiii

The tabloids are a dying product in the United States. Their sales are primarily limited to supermarket checkoutlines. You'll see the elderly and/or housewives thumb through them, but very few buy such trash.

Sorry for the poorly worded post!

I was referring to the culture of taboid interest, not the media(newspaper, tv, internet, and etc.)that delivers it!

Cheers
6th January 2007, 19:36
Ian McC

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Originally Posted by Tazio

Sorry for the poorly worded post!

I was referring to the culture of taboid interest, not the media(newspaper, tv, internet, and etc.)that delivers it!

Cheers

Exactly, I have no idea if the sales of tabloid papers has changed much but certainly the 'cult of personality' here has grown to ridiculous levels. Having so many now famous for being famous and nothing more gives an indication of the desire to know peoples lives. From the number of magazines (Heat etc) to the TV shows like Big Brother and the rest of the reality rubbish the industry that has sprung up because of it is very large.

We Brits certainly can't claim it is our own, Big Brother originally came from Holland and we get enough of the crap American imports. Indeed, I expect Kimi's 'adventures' off track probably had little coverage here so that would be down to another countries media.

From my own point of view I don't care what he has done off the track, it's what's on it that's important.
6th January 2007, 19:52
Tazio

Reality check

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Originally Posted by Tazio

Sorry for the poorly worded post!

I was referring to the culture of taboid interest, not the media(newspaper, tv, internet, and etc.)that delivers it!

Cheers

Not only was my post poorly worded, but misleading, cofusing, and somewhat retarded. I meant to say the tabloid culture(and especially here in Southern Ca.) is growing to epic proportions!

I hear Kimi ia dating Paris Hilton!

Well thats what I heard!!
6th January 2007, 20:31
agwiii

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Originally Posted by Tazio

Sorry for the poorly worded post!

I was referring to the culture of taboid interest, not the media(newspaper, tv, internet, and etc.)that delivers it!

Cheers

Not in the least. I probably misinterpreted you. However, I think the "culture of tabloid interest" is much more of a European phenomenon.
6th January 2007, 20:35
agwiii

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Originally Posted by Tazio

Not only was my post poorly worded, but misleading, cofusing, and somewhat retarded. I meant to say the tabloid culture(and especially here in Southern Ca.) is growing to epic proportions!

I hear Kimi ia dating Paris Hilton!

Well thats what I heard!!

Okay, that's even better. You're in Southern California! That explains everything!

Dating Paris Hilton. What happened to Jenni Maria Dahlman-Räikkönen, aka Mrs. Kimi Raikkonen? Perhaps they have an "open marriage?" :) However, there is a word for this in the United States.
7th January 2007, 15:52
Tazio

"Dating Paris Hilton. What happened to Jenni Maria Dahlman-Räikkönen, aka Mrs. Kimi Raikkonen? Perhaps they have an "open marriage"

You would think that would present a problem!

This is not a comment on Kimi's personal life!

But, it appears that around theses parts, (so. ca.) it would only present a minor inconvenience, and perhaps a slight annoyance!

As long as pre-nup's are in order!!!
7th January 2007, 20:32
agwiii

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Originally Posted by Tazio

"Dating Paris Hilton. What happened to Jenni Maria Dahlman-Räikkönen, aka Mrs. Kimi Raikkonen? Perhaps they have an "open marriage"

You would think that would present a problem! This is not a comment on Kimi's personal life! But, it appears that around theses parts, (so. ca.) it would only present a minor inconvenience, and perhaps a slight annoyance! As long as pre-nup's are in order!!!

Tazio - Paris Hilton? She's not as attractive as Jenni Maria, and she is as dumb as a rock. If Kimi is actually spending time with her ...
7th January 2007, 22:16
Tazio

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Originally Posted by agwiii

Tazio - Paris Hilton? She's not as attractive as Jenni Maria, and she is as dumb as a rock. If Kimi is actually spending time with her ...

I agree with all of this!(Especially the looks & mentality)

Dude! It was a joke!! You know, talentless bimbo, tabloid famous, and no

beauty queen by any means. Kimi's not seeing that tramp of a slut!

That was an attemp at allegory, with a touch of metaphor!

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