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16th February 2020, 13:57
Sulland

Quote:

Originally Posted by BleAivano

They have basically two choices. Move a bit further north or go for a big move. If the latter the only realistic choices IMO are Österstund or Umeå.
It doesn't necessarily have to be close to the Norwegian border or at an large altitude. Vännas has plenty of snow and is only 200 meter above sea level.

Also about the RS's partners (sponsors) most of the major sponsors have no connection to Värmland area. Swecon (listed first) are based in my home city,
some 300 km east of the rally area. The other tow major partner Toyota Sverige and Skruvat are both based in Stockholm.

Some of the other partners/suppliers are based in Värmland but far from all of them.

If the swedes that know SS road potentials and Hotel capasity around the Østersund and Umeå areas, what area of the two would you choose?
17th February 2020, 15:21
BleAivano

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sulland

If the swedes that know SS road potentials and Hotel capasity around the Østersund and Umeå areas, what area of the two would you choose?

Österund incar:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxhBENKiR5g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIpYNEWTxIk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjQmwPwW6sA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Eh-4aZ-_Vs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vsyqq-UB31A

Vännäs incar:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzuHcEA4iuY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ztxvd71knU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtupE3P-7oI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NjQqmmbESc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2QsWrSJPyk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhTVwfGMeKE

Will probably me more incar after next week's Rally-SM round in Vännäs.

Curvy forest roads like most other rallies in Sweden. ;)
22nd February 2020, 16:31
EstWRC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdV0sxXcucw
25th February 2020, 11:03
Fast Eddie WRC

Interesting comments by Colin Clark on this subject on his recent KT: https://youtu.be/wwZOqL74dFo
23rd March 2020, 09:12
AnttiL

https://yle.fi/urheilu/3-11270791

Apparently Jämtland's motor club is trying to get the rally next year to Östersund. They claim to have 950 km roads suitable for stages within a 60 km radius. They have three options for a route.
23rd March 2020, 09:27
rallyfiend

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnttiL

https://yle.fi/urheilu/3-11270791

Apparently Jämtland's motor club is trying to get the rally next year to Östersund. They claim to have 950 km roads suitable for stages within a 60 km radius. They have three options for a route.

I don’t think many people have doubted the ability to hold the rally there from a roads point of view.

It’s just a question of who will pay for it....
23rd March 2020, 09:37
AnttiL

And also, the question if Värmland has the rights for the two following years or if Sweden's ASN can change who organizes their WRC event already for next year.

(the article doesn't talk about this, only my own thought)
23rd March 2020, 10:33
Rallyper

I think Swedish ASN isn´t that strong. Like in Finland to me AKK looks more integrated in Rally Finland, than Swedish Bilsportförbundet is to RS.

So in the end it comes up to Organizer in Värmland to adapt or not be sure of having the rally any longer.

(My thoughts)
23rd March 2020, 12:08
tc10a

This article is about an area even much more north:
https://www.pitea.se/press/Aktuellt/...venska-rallyt/
23rd March 2020, 14:29
Rallyper

Quote:

Originally Posted by tc10a

This article is about an area even much more north:
https://www.pitea.se/press/Aktuellt/...venska-rallyt/

This came today!

Hmmm... organizer has invited them to host the rally. Interesting.
23rd March 2020, 22:09
Sulland

If correct, it is a smart move to go all the way to Norrbotten county, for real stable winter conditions!
They will for sure save the rally with such a move.
26th March 2020, 16:23
BleAivano

Article in DF https://www.dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/s...for-2021-stay/
26th March 2020, 18:21
SubaruNorway

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sulland

If correct, it is a smart move to go all the way to Norrbotten county, for real stable winter conditions!
They will for sure save the rally with such a move.

Financially also? Would guess they need more money from sponsors to run the event up there with less spectators probably. Nearly no motorsport that high north in Norway, Finland across the border is good i guess though.

Calculated my own fuel expenses to go up there in my own car for the whole event to at least 500€ with 13-14 hours to and from. Not an option renting a cheap FWD for me and shortest flight i could find is 1 stop 4 hours and 140€
26th March 2020, 19:04
Sulland

Quote:

Originally Posted by SubaruNorway

Financially also? Would guess they need more money from sponsors to run the event up there with less spectators probably. Nearly no motorsport that high north in Norway, Finland across the border is good i guess though.

Calculated my own fuel expenses to go up there in my own car for the whole event to at least 500€ with 13-14 hours to and from. Not an option renting a cheap FWD for me and shortest flight i could find is 1 stop 4 hours and 140€

Looks line Hq in Torsby in 21, and then I guess with remote service.
But hey, maybe 21 will be the snowseason of the decade! But I would not put money on it.
14th September 2020, 19:22
BleAivano

There are three candidates that have submitted application to be the new host of Rally Sweden. Österund, Umeå and Luleå (together with a few other smaller towns) are the three candidates.
Umeå is by far the biggest city of the three, almost 130'000 inhabitants. Umeå also hosted a very good SM-round this year but Östersund have done well too previous years. Luleå/Boden/Älvkarleby is,
for me atleast, a bit unknown when it comes to rally hosting. All three still have flights from/to Stockholm-Arlanda and/or Stockholm-Bromma.

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/%C3%...d65.584819!3e2

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/va...tydligare-form
15th September 2020, 09:49
erikli2

Östersund has listed 43 possible stages within a 60 km radius from the city, with a total SS length of almost 1000 km. Their round in the Swedish Championship usually have really nice roads with big snow banks. The map of these stages along with some other information (in Swedish though) can be found in this document.
15th September 2020, 10:04
EstWRC

Finally they are going into right direction with this. Should have happened years ago already.
15th September 2020, 10:12
Rallyper

Quote:

Originally Posted by erikli2

Östersund has listed 43 possible stages within a 60 km radius from the city, with a total SS length of almost 1000 km. Their round in the Swedish Championship usually have really nice roads with big snow banks. The map of these stages along with some other information (in Swedish though) can be found in this document.

Brilliant presentation. And absolutely proper place for WRC Rally Sweden!!
20th September 2020, 06:02
BleAivano

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rallyper

Brilliant presentation. And absolutely proper place for WRC Rally Sweden!!

I don't disagree in any way, shape or form. However Umeå/Vännäs Motorklubb received allot of accolades after the SM-round this year so I don't think that they will give up without a fight. ;)
20th September 2020, 13:28
Rallyper

Quote:

Originally Posted by BleAivano

I don't disagree in any way, shape or form. However Umeå/Vännäs Motorklubb received allot of accolades after the SM-round this year so I don't think that they will give up without a fight. ;)

Will be interesting to see what happens. In an international aspect I think Östersund is the winner.

But for sure, Umeå surely would be fine.
20th September 2020, 13:45
Rallyper

Worth recall: Mattias says "when rallying at its best" about SS12 in Rally Vännäs. Note: Look all the way to the end. English speaking rounding up.

https://www.facebook.com/EKSRX/video...related_videos

Maybe this tipping over for Umeå... from Rally SM this winter.

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