100% Rosberg's fault, anyone who can't see it, should have their eyes examined. Lewis had his wheel alongside, Rosberg gave him zero space, Lewis couldn't do anything.
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100% Rosberg's fault, anyone who can't see it, should have their eyes examined. Lewis had his wheel alongside, Rosberg gave him zero space, Lewis couldn't do anything.
Hamilton was not alongside. He was in the grass already before his frontwing was anywhere near next to nicos car, else he would have clipped it.
Yeah it's difficult not to blame Nico for the most part I think.
It'll be nice to see a non-Merc winner though and I hope Ricciardo can keep it together.
Well, ultimately, Nico is obliged to give Hamilton room and he didn't. Nico also moved twice which he's not supposed to do. Good to see another team win though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garry Walker
He only moved once as far as I saw.And he is only obliged to give a car witdth if he is alongside, which he wasn't, he only got barely alongside when his right wheels where already off the tarmac.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Black Knight
Newsflash. The Politbüro has changed the verdict to racing incident. Reading between the lines, Lauda was called in later and told to change his opinion. Looks like at least Toto learned from Spa 2014 and didn't pillory a driver right away. Lauda probably never learns.
Rosberg left the racing line to force Hamilton off the track which is beyond stupid. Ive seen penalties given for less already this year. Nikki can say whatever he wants and of course will shoot his mouth before his brain can catch up. The only thing i take from this weekend is i expect a rosberg penalty and now probably a change in momentum
Lauda does struggle to engage his mouth with his brain most of the time which is the main reason I enjoy his opinions. He is the German Eddie Jordan lol.
How can he force Lewis off the track if Lewis is still behind him? The right wheels of Lewis's car where already off the tarmac before his front wing was ever next to Nico's rear wheels. Watch the overhead replay.Quote:
Originally Posted by truefan72
I can't really agree or disagree with that. I have to look at it again. This was just my initial view on it without proper analysis.Quote:
Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
It's fairly obvious in the overhead replay from the helicam. They'll surely show it again after the race. After all, this race hadn't had much more talking points so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Black Knight
What a blow this must be for Kvyat. The car he was booted out of is currently leading the race...
Sebastien Vettel moaning over the radio like a little bitch again
Well, RIC was never going to make that corner. It was a bit of a hairbrained move.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Black Knight
Come on Kimi!!
He was entitled to make the move. He nearly made the corner. That is racing.Quote:
Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
LOL, someone on Sky Germany twittered: "Great race, that's like Bundesliga without Bayern Munic"
C'mon Verstappen! This would be amazing if he wins!
You can't be nearly pregnant. Since he didn't make the corner, it means he went in too fast and risked and accident.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Black Knight
Edit. I wonder if clattering over those barriers damaged his worn tyre.
Go Max, awesome victory!!!!
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Wow, just wow from Max. What an incredible star we have on our hands here. That was just sheer raw brilliance from possibly the biggest talent we may ever have seen in F1.
Sometimes I wonder if you realise what racing really is. Racing history is littered with failed overtakes. Just because you didn't make the move stick doesn't mean you weren't entitled to try.Quote:
Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
Nothing is ever certain in racing and Max kept it on the circuit and delivered. A mature drive and clearly one of many. The youngest ever winner too!
True, but he might have killed his own tyre in that move, which would make him look like a bit of a tool, wouldn't you think? And not every unrealistic move is worth making.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Black Knight
He may or he may not have. Either way, it's still racing.
One thing this race showed to me is that Ferrari should get rid or Raikkonen at the end of the year. He's utterly useless. He should have won that race.
I think what they should get rid of should be the car, it was utterly hopeless on traction out of the last corner.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Black Knight
The useless one has just overtaken Hamilton in the driver's standings to take second place ;) I don't think the Ferrari was quite as fast as the Red Bull today - Vettel struggled to hold off Ricciardo.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Black Knight
I think Nico should take the blame. He was certainly blocking/defending rather than taking the optimal race line. Did you see all the other following cars at the moment the accident happened? They were all on the opposite side of the track from Hamilton and Rosberg, which suggests that Rosberg's move to block Hamilton was not simply explained by following the "racing line".
Ricciardo blames the team for the strategy. Quite ironic, considering that he got his maiden win by the team screwing Sebs strategy in Canada '14. (Not quite instant) karma.
Isn't going off the racing line to defend your position the very definition od defending your position? Or what did you think all those drivers were doing driving to the right on the start-fisnish-straight? It even has a name: 'Closing the door'.Quote:
Originally Posted by zako85
Wow. what a great race! Absolutely incredible..
I'm unashamed to say that Max winning even brought a tear to my eye. Yes, he was fortunate in being given the better strategy but he didn't put a wheel wrong and drove beyond his years, definitely an exceptional talent at such a young age,.... that was a real privilege and pleasure to witness.
The start-finish straight part of the race is a very different from the rest of race because there are so many cars running very close to each other, and often two or three abreast. Therefore, I think the penalties for crashing on the start-finish lane or in the first turn should be more lenient. However, by the time Hamilton and Rosberg touched, they were already very far away from the start-finish lane.
Yeah, I've just seen a replay now and it was Rosberg's fault. Looks like Rosberg was in The wrong mode doing round the corner and his car started harvesting. This caused him to be extremely slow on the exit of the corner. He started fiddling with the switches to change mode, Lewis saw a gap, went for it. Then Rosberg came over and essentially blocks Lewis. Once Lewis committed to the move, he couldn't back out of it because he had so much speed. Rosberg saw Lewis lunge and cut him off. Lewis was alongside Rosberg and should have been given space. Nico wasn't entitled to come across. It was Nico's fault, ultimately caused by him being in the wrong mode. I don't believe it was in anyway intentional I liked previous occasions.Quote:
Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
These things happen in racing in the heat of the moment.
The Ferrari looked quicker to me. It was just in the wrong hands to make it go quicker. Vettel's struggle as down to a banana's Ferrari strategy.Quote:
Originally Posted by gm99
Sorry, you're wrong. Yes, Rosberg slowed down, but Lewis was NOT alongside. He went into the gras and then his frontwing appeared next to Nico's wheel. He could have avoided that by tapping the brakes. He tried to force a gap, but he was actually off-track, so the only thing he was entitled to at that point was a nasty accident. The sequence of events is important. He was FIRST in the grass oand only then he got alongside. That's not how shit works.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Black Knight
I´m happy for Max!. Kimi, yeah, second in WDC!!!!!!
This was a fantastic race for two reasons. First, Verstappen wins his first ever race in his first race with Red Bull. That doesn't happen often. Kvyat is going to wet his pillow with tears tonight. Second, the Hamilton-Rosberg accident. This accident ensured that I can grab a bag of popcorn and watch the opposing sides argue with each other for the next two weeks until Monaco. This hasn't happened since Belgian GP of 2014.
Fantastic race. Great to see Max Verstappen win his first race.
Plenty of action, and plenty to talk about!