On gravel Nikara could compensate it but the two days on asphalt is cleary for Hans I think although Nikara showed crazy pace on Barum :p , Hans is a asphalt specialist.
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On gravel Nikara could compensate it but the two days on asphalt is cleary for Hans I think although Nikara showed crazy pace on Barum :p , Hans is a asphalt specialist.
I'll second the 'smoothness' argument
Pictures of them both exiting 90 deg bends
Weijs
Hans Weijs Jr / Bjorn Degandt - Skoda Fabia S2000 - Dikkebus 2 - Rally Ypres 2011 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Nikara
Nikara / Nikara - Lancer Evo IX - Great Orme - Day 1 - Wales Rally GB 2011 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
JN always sideways if it's possible!
Ok not a direct comparison (line through the same bend in similar cars required) but all the JWRC shots I have of HW in Spain and Germany show a smooth line at all times.
Yes you are right at boldQuote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
At first sentence i really dont overestimate Nikara,but you can find stage times very impressive even for asphalt like Barum,a rally much more difficult than Catalunya and for his first time there.At gravel just impressive, is not the right word.
Lets hope to stay inside the road. :D
as mousti said lets see a gravel rookie against an asphalt one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
- Loeb – DS3 WRC[/*:m:3a5174qu]
- Hirvonen – DS3 WRC[/*:m:3a5174qu]
- Latvala – Fiesta WRC[/*:m:3a5174qu]
- Solberg – Fiesta WRC[/*:m:3a5174qu]
- Tänak – Fiesta WRC[/*:m:3a5174qu]
- Powell – Fiesta WRC (M-Sport)[/*:m:3a5174qu]
- Weijs Jr. – DS3 WRC (Qatar World Rally Team)[/*:m:3a5174qu]
- Neuville – DS3 WRC[/*:m:3a5174qu]
- Oliveira – Fiesta WRC[/*:m:3a5174qu]
- Ostberg – Fiesta WRC[/*:m:3a5174qu]
- Atkinson – Mini WRC[/*:m:3a5174qu]
- Nobre – Mini WRC[/*:m:3a5174qu]
- Sordo – Mini WRC[/*:m:3a5174qu]
- Nikara – Mini WRC (Prodrive)[/*:m:3a5174qu]
- Prokop – Fiesta WRC[/*:m:3a5174qu]
- Novikov – Fiesta WRC[/*:m:3a5174qu]
- Al-Kuwari – Mini WRC[/*:m:3a5174qu]
- Ogier – Fabia S2000[/*:m:3a5174qu]
- Mikkelsen – Fabia S2000[/*:m:3a5174qu]
- Breen – Fiesta S2000[/*:m:3a5174qu]
- Andersson – Proton S2000[/*:m:3a5174qu]
- Al-Rajhi – Fiesta RRC[/*:m:3a5174qu]
- Paddon – Fabia S2000[/*:m:3a5174qu]
- Llovera – Punto S2000[/*:m:3a5174qu]
- Garcia-Ojeda – DS3 R3[/*:m:3a5174qu]
- Chardonnet – DS3 R3[/*:m:3a5174qu]
Also lets hope to have a test before rally to setup the car.
Is this Al-Kuwari's first run in a Mini WRC as opposed to his usual RRC/SPC car?Quote:
Originally Posted by mousti
No, he did the Acropolis Rally in the WRC car and finished 10th in his first ever WRC appearance.Quote:
Originally Posted by noel157
Thanks Tolis.Quote:
Originally Posted by tolis
Sorry but just check entry list. Car number 6. M-Sport WRT John Powell (TTO) Michael Fennell (JAM)
Who is this? Who's seat have they taken?!
Novikov's number
Evgeny taking Ketomaa's number altough I don't think Ketomaa had a number..
Yes, Novikov is in the DMack entry....Quote:
Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1
WT
How can you compare the two? Hans is on tarmac in an S2000 and Nikara is doing a gravel rally on gravel tyres in a heavy pig of a Group N car, but that shot is from a tarmac mickey mouse stage...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
On gravel tyres in a heavy, understeery car you have to throw it round to get it to turn on tarmac...
How many beers the bet? I will owe them at Acropolis :DQuote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
Is killian Duffy navigating, or has his honeymoon taken priority?Quote:
Originally Posted by noel157
Weijs certainly knows how to go sideways as well:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5sr...hannel&list=UL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOcl...layer_embedded
So how's driving the second Proton?
never mind who is faster at the end,stage times i want to see :pQuote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
Wherever you come i owe the beers,even if Nikara is faster. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
so the bet is stage times.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
All the Evos and Subs on Great Orme were heavy understeery cars - no one got it as sideways as JN, even Paddon who was very quick or Flodin didn't get out of shape as much. Allowing for the gravel tyres he was still wasting time in being less smooth than the best of his competitionQuote:
Originally Posted by Munkvy
DO we know if Evgeny will compete with DMack tires or is he running with Michelins and just sponsorship by DMack?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wasted Talent
Ketomma did it like i remember ;)
Wasn't Ketomaa riding Michelin in Acropolis at least (and Yokohama probably somewhere else), if I'm not mistaken?Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
Thats why I ask, because if I remember correctly it happened again before this year (Acropolis maybe?)
Herd a rumor of Alister Fisher ..... how true dont knowQuote:
Originally Posted by Teme
Ketomaa was driving Michelin in Portugal. No Yokohama...Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Nikara used Yokohama in NORF.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Entry list is out, Ali fisher entered for proton team!
http://www.rallyracc.com/2012/descargas/inscritos.pdfQuote:
Originally Posted by Nelly
Nope (to the last question) :)Quote:
Originally Posted by gravelman
Quote:
Originally Posted by irish_tiger
Naw, not true......... :) Good catch.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
Not a good comparison as you say! ;) Nikara uses gravel tyres on tarmac and it looks wet and then it's slippery as you already know?
Wijes JR uses tarmac tyres on dry tarmac....
Two different surfaces and tyres who get two different driving styles... ;)
Then the big quest.... ;)
How is Sordo going to make it on his home turf???
I so very much hope that Sordos Mini will be fast so he can fight for a win or a podium!
Sordo is slow on gravel so he would only cruise on the next days waiting for retirements.Quote:
Originally Posted by Astro83
Gravel? The most of the rally drives on tarmac, right?! :S
Yes day 1 is on gravel.
As in last couple of years :)
Yea I know how the last years of rally Spain look like but I got confusied when Slowson wrote that. I took that as the whole rally was on gravel!! ;) ;) And that could not be right.. Hehe.
I think that Sordo is going to be very fast as usual if the car gets better then last time!
I think he will have too much to make up after day 1 and the Mini isn't likely to be any quicker / reliable than in France!! I hope he does well but can't see it happeningQuote:
Originally Posted by Astro83
Quote:
Originally Posted by Astro83
No Nikara was on bone dry tarmac, the shine on the road is the low sun!! The warmest November day I've ever known and certainly warmer than Dikkebus stage at 1900 hrs!