WRC-Neste Oil Rally Finland 2012

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15th February 2012, 13:48
dimviii

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Originally Posted by tolis

Thumbs up you meant! :D

Indeed, nice that this famous stage is back as a Power Stage!

thanks Tolis but i can t edit it. :dozey: my english are not so good,sorry.
15th February 2012, 13:54
mm1

I don`t remember the stage, but Ouninpohja stage was an acces road to a spectator spot in previous year, and the whole lenght was with deep ditches on both sides and didn`t look hi-speed at all.
15th February 2012, 13:58
Brother John

Quote:

Originally Posted by mm1

I don`t remember the stage, but Ouninpohja stage was an acces road to a spectator spot in previous year, and the whole lenght was with deep ditches on both sides and didn`t look hi-speed at all.

Ouninpohja stage not high speed??? do not make me laugh, have you ever been there? :eek:
15th February 2012, 14:09
mm1

I`m no saying that, I`m saying that the part of the Ouninpohja stage, which was used as acces road to a stage this year, was slower because of the roadworks/ditches. I just believe that the roadworks could be a contribution to the decision to run Ouninpohja again. And yes, I`ve been there more than once, think 4 times, not counting previous year.
15th February 2012, 14:30
N.O.T

Crazy power stage !!!
15th February 2012, 14:33
Martin Luijk

For the ones who never have seen this video. Petter Solberg in the legendary stage Ouninpohja with his record run. It takes 17 minutes but it's amazing to watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMLbn4PmGes (part 1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0xFX...feature=fvwrel (part 2)

I think I've seen this onboards 5 times, but it's still amazing.
15th February 2012, 15:03
dimviii

Quote:

Originally Posted by N.O.T

Crazy power stage !!!

Dream scenario.
First overall with 2,3sec difference from second, before power stage.At power stage, not only the 3 points, but the whole rally!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: mother of battles!
15th February 2012, 15:15
Hartusvuori

Quote:

Originally Posted by dimviii

Dream scenario.
First overall with 2,3sec difference from second, before power stage.At power stage, not only the 3 points, but the whole rally!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: mother of battles!

In terms of experience, Loeb and P. Solberg gets upper hand in Ouninpohja. Hirvonen has some good experience too before 2007, Latvala only from 2005 with Corolla WRC. Of course with repair works done and years in between it's new pace notes for everyone, but just to point out.

I truly hope the tight battles of past two seasons would happen again in Rally Finland, with Ouninpohja as final acts!
15th February 2012, 16:06
DonJippo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Luijk

I think I've seen this onboards 5 times, but it's still amazing.

After six and half minutes flat out driving when they turn left in Mutanen Phil says "It get's faster now..." :D
15th February 2012, 16:10
Martin Luijk

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonJippo

After six and half minutes flat out driving when they turn left in Mutanen Phil says "It get's faster now..." :D

After I watched the on-boards this afternoon again, I've been thinking of posting that too ;)
15th February 2012, 16:13
Juha_Koo

(Partial) Hirvonen onboard from Ouninpohja 2007. One badass stage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWZXU0b-Vcc
15th February 2012, 17:42
Rallyper

So shall we regard the whole Ouninpohja-stage as PS? Isn´t PS only about 4 K? :confused:
15th February 2012, 17:52
Mirek

That is not mandatory. Last year some events had long power stage as well. I think Mexico or Portugal?
15th February 2012, 17:57
Rallyper

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mirek

That is not mandatory. Last year some events had long power stage as well. I think Mexico or Portugal?

Not Portugal I think. I was there and was told that only the last part of the final stage was PS. But when you say this I´m become doubtful about that as well....even though I was at the last stage also.
15th February 2012, 18:00
tolis

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mirek

That is not mandatory. Last year some events had long power stage as well. I think Mexico or Portugal?

Indeed, the first events had a PS more than 4 kms. Then, FIA thought that it was better to be short in order to broadcast all the effort of each crew. So, FIA said that the PS should be around 4kms. In last year's Acropolis Rally, the PS was scheduled to be 11 kms, but then FIA changed it to only 4 kms for the reason I mentioned.

In Portugal last year the PS was around 30kms long.
15th February 2012, 18:01
dimviii

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rallyper

Not Portugal I think. I was there and was told that only the last part of the final stage was PS. But when you say this I´m become doubtful about that as well....even though I was at the last stage also.

i don t remember a so long power stage at last year.At Acropolis it was 4 or 5 km and was part of a bigger stage.
15th February 2012, 18:02
dimviii

Quote:

Originally Posted by tolis

Indeed, the first events had a PS more than 4 kms. Then, FIA thought that it was better to be short in order to broadcast all the effort of each crew. So, FIA said that the PS should be around 4kms. In last year's Acropolis Rally, the PS was scheduled to be 11 kms, but then FIA changed it to only 4 kms for the reason I mentioned.

was this the reason,or they wanted short ones to be broadcasted by tv?
15th February 2012, 18:04
tolis

Quote:

Originally Posted by dimviii

was this the reason,or they wanted short ones to be broadcasted by tv?

That's what I said. They wanted shorter PS in order to broadcast each crew from the beginning till the end.
15th February 2012, 18:04
Mirek

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rallyper

Not Portugal I think. I was there and was told that only the last part of the final stage was PS. But when you say this I´m become doubtful about that as well....even though I was at the last stage also.

Yes, it was Portugal. 31 kms, just checked it. Loeb's winning time was over 22 minutes ;)
15th February 2012, 18:41
wildboar

This is the way to go with the power stage: iconic stages that show how great rallying is. Not just 3 times around the parking lot as in Hagenau, France. I hope other organizers will follow this example.
15th February 2012, 18:42
Andre Oliveira

Here in Portugal the power stage was big too. What a great finnish in Finland this year... last 2 stages will be... Ouninpohja ;) Fantastic. Can´t wait... The onlt thing left is El Durazno - Ambul with 66km in Argentina be power stage ;) eheheh
15th February 2012, 18:49
Kielder

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mirek

Yes, it was Portugal. 31 kms, just checked it. Loeb's winning time was over 22 minutes ;)

They had chosen the stage before Power Stage system, with live TV, was announced. Then they realised that broadcasting it with that length was very difficult. In fact, we only saw on TV last kilometres of the stage. This year the PS is going to be the last part of last year Santa Clara stage, called Sambro (5,08 km).
15th February 2012, 19:21
Rallyper

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kielder

They had chosen the stage before Power Stage system, with live TV, was announced. Then they realised that broadcasting it with that length was very difficult. In fact, we only saw on TV last kilometres of the stage. This year the PS is going to be the last part of last year Santa Clara stage, called Sambro (5,08 km).

So maybe that was the reason why I mixed it up because of the live-broadcasting only was the last 5 K, but PS for whole stage.

Anyway, the PS of NORF 2012 will be a huge challenge for the drivers!!

ANd the route of the rally will be challenge for all the spectators (with roadwork in Jämsä) and transport from Leustu to Ouninpohja in Saturday afternoon.
19th February 2012, 13:26
Micke_VOC

Great news that Ouninpohja is back....
Give me a lot memories back when i was there last time...
20th February 2012, 16:15
Rallyper

Do we have any date when Rallyguide #1 will be presented?
22nd February 2012, 11:18
A.F.F.

All in all the route is much more sensible than last year. Me like very much. :up:
29th February 2012, 13:02
Rallyper

I heard RG1 will be presented in the end of March according to new WRC rules.
29th March 2012, 17:02
Hartusvuori

Shock! The official spectator's guide won't be produced by Vauhdin Maailma (VM) as it have been for like since the times before Jesus, but instead AKK-Motorsport have made a deal with A-Lehdet and their car magazine Tuulilasi will do the job. Good thing is that it'll be all new, but I hope that will mean it'll be improved, not plagued by newbie mistakes.

Also, Citroen and its Finnish importer Auto-Bon have inked a sponsor deal.

Oh, and no sign of RG1 yet... Maybe tomorrow.
29th March 2012, 21:32
A.F.F.

Good shock :)
30th March 2012, 06:14
Hartusvuori

Perhaps we get two spectators' guides now...
30th March 2012, 06:36
janvanvurpa

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hartusvuori

Perhaps we get two spectators' guides now...

I think they'll need more than that...
30th March 2012, 07:22
Hartusvuori

Quote:

Originally Posted by janvanvurpa

I think they'll need more than that...

A loudspeaker?
30th March 2012, 08:20
A.F.F.

Hartusvuori, do you know anything more about the deal AKK made with A-lehdet or more precise, why they did it? More money?
30th March 2012, 08:37
Hartusvuori

Quote:

Originally Posted by A.F.F.

Hartusvuori, do you know anything more about the deal AKK made with A-lehdet or more precise, why they did it? More money?

Just this piece from the newsletter: Uudet yhteistyökumppanit - Neste Oil Rally Finland (Finnish)
30th March 2012, 09:24
DonJippo

Quote:

Originally Posted by A.F.F.

Hartusvuori, do you know anything more about the deal AKK made with A-lehdet or more precise, why they did it? More money?

More money, I'm sure though VM will have spectator guide like always but it won't have "official" status this time.
30th March 2012, 11:32
NikoP

RG1 published: Competitors - Neste Oil Rally Finland
30th March 2012, 12:33
Hartusvuori

Some dates:
Mon May 28th - entries open, supplementary regulations published
Mon 2 July - entries close
Fri 6th July - entries draft published, RG2 published for competitors

Rally week
Mon-Tue-Wed - Recce
Wed - Free practise, Qualification, P3 Shakedown
11th April 2012, 15:25
Kielder

FIA has warned organizers of the rally that they have to place artificial chicanes at various points along the Ouninpohja stage, especially in the long straight of its middle part. :mad:
11th April 2012, 15:36
Fly

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kielder

FIA has warned organizers of the rally that they have to place artificial chicanes at various points along the Ouninpohja stage, especially in the long straight of its middle part. :mad:

Like in 2007.

Neste Ralli 2007 Ouninpohja ChicaneCam - YouTube
11th April 2012, 16:07
Fly

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fly

Like in 2007.

Neste Ralli 2007 Ouninpohja ChicaneCam - YouTube

Or Hirvonen onboard at 5'58. Chicanes are boring but still a great stage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=sDYZ0TiJpIA

I used to go to the place at 5'30 a few years ago. Good spot.

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