Capirossi is intruigingly down the sheets... Any reason? :confused:
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Capirossi is intruigingly down the sheets... Any reason? :confused:
I was watching Capirossi, and frankly, he seemed to be suffering the same problems that Hayden was: Just couldn't get to grips with the 800. Trying to bully it like he used to bully the old 990. But that just doesn't work.
Capirossi was fast round the 1st 2 sections a couple of times, then his times would go to pieces in the last 2 sections.
i cant wait for this race to start. i mean, i was looking forward to this race at the start of the weekend (for the last two weeks really) but the qualifying session really does make the anticipation even more intense. i dont think there has ever been a time when the whole field are separated by less than 2 seconds. and the top 12 only half a second apart, thats insane. this is why motogp is (and always will be) better than formula 1 or any other type of motorsport.
I'm rather surprised at this, given his pretty good testing times in comparison to Stoner - he actually looked like he had him covered for much of the off-season, so I'm surprised he hasn't been quicker than he has been thus far. Hopefully he can work his way around the problems though, because he still is one of the top riders on the grid IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kropotkin
Hayden may need to spend more time testing or in the wind tunnel, because at this rate his team-mate could be champion, whilst a top-8 in the final 2007 classification for Hayden is possibly beyond reach from what I can see now. It's most worrying that he is comfortable with the bike, but just inexplicably slow.
One word for ya, C.A.N.I - Constant and Never-ending Improvement
Is that even a word? Hehe, anyways, goooo Westy, onwards and upwards..
Cracking 250cc race. bring on the big ones..
What 250 CC race!!!!
I think Bautista is my new fave rider in 250.
This was a classic Rossi, we haven't seen such a race of him for a long time!
Haven't seen the 125 or 250s yet but the MotoGP race was a bit of a snoozer. You would have expected tighter racing after the qualifying yesterday. Disappointed to see everyone so spread out.
Great ride by the doctor and strong ride by Colin. I wonder if Dani's confidence will be shaken a little bit. He had a real chance to take the fight to Valentino in front of his home crowd instead he couldn't even make Rossi feel pressured. We have yet to see a real dog fight between Pedrosa and Rossi. Maybe Rossi has already won the mind games with Dani.
I'm gutted for Hopkins (as is my fantasy team). At least he has a month off now to let his hand heal.
Actually, it's a shame they concentrated on Rossi, Pedrosa and Edwards, with glimpses of Hopper and Hayden. The scrap for 6th was tight, as was the fight for 9th. There were 5 guys going at it right to the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by fatman
Anyway, I have a race report up on my site. Here's how it starts:
The Measure Of The Man
On any given race weekend, riders line up to be measured. They pit themselves and their machines against all comers, borne by an unwavering belief in their own ability to overcome their adversaries and the limitations of the equipment they have been given. They stand to be measured every time they line up. Sometimes, though, the measurement goes deeper. For there are some days when a racer has to step up and go beyond himself, beyond the limitations of his body and his machine, and reach a higher plane. On days such as those, the line which separates the great from the merely good becomes crystal clear: A good rider will give his utmost, and meet all that is expected of him; A great rider goes beyond himself, and rises above the field to do the seemingly impossible.
The Jerez MotoGP round was just such an occasion. Many questions had been answered at the opening race at Qatar, but in their answering, many others had been raised: Was Ducati's horsepower advantage the definitive blow of the season? Could Yamaha exploit their handling advantage at a slower track? Would Dani Pedrosa be able to stamp his authority on his home Grand Prix? And would the veterans who were doing so surprisingly poorly, such as Loris Capirossi and reigning champion Nicky Hayden, be able to solve the problems which seemed to dog them?
Muddy Waters
Practice had been a very mixed picture. The temperature differences between the cool morning sessions and the warm afternoon sessions meant that some people were running great times in one session, only to plummet to the bottom of the timesheets in the next. The new limits on tire choice showed the first signs of biting, as testing tires chosen for a warm afternoon race on a chilly morning was proving virtually pointless. And by the time qualifying was done, the picture was, if anything, even more confusing, Saturday's official Qualifying Practice producing the closest grid ever seen in MotoGP, with just over 3/10ths of a second covering the top 10 places, and the top 15 all inside of a single second. With the times so close, the race looked like being a lottery, with the run into the first corner looking ever more capable of deciding the race.
As the lights dimmed, and the pack roared off the line, there was a universal intake of breath. Last year at Jerez, Turn 1 set the tone for the rest of the year, as a hard-charging Toni Elias shunted Valentino Rossi off into the gravel, and setting Rossi on the long, hard road that would eventually lead him to lose his title. As the pack emerged unscathed from Turn 1, and headed off towards the rear of the track, the crowd collectively exhaled, glad that the race would be decided on the tarmac and not in the gravel traps.
Read the rest of my MotoGP Jerez race report
Good stuff as always Kropotkin :) Shame we have a three week break now until the next race.. Thats an eternity! :p
Hmm.. I was disappointed with the MotoGP race. It was a fine ride by Rossi but it wasn't exactly interesting. Nice to see Elias up there, and it looks like Hayden has improved a bit. Capirossi was still nowhere. :confused:
Apart from the distinct lack of passing and falling on the track, the race was also a reminder that Rossi is still the King of the Hill. And with both Yamaha's looking so good with Rossi leading the championship, I'm inclined to think it might be a bit of an unwanted contrast to last year.
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Originally Posted by Malllen
Well, next up we have Istanbul and Shanghai, both tracks where top speed is really important. Rossi is going to get his ass kicked at Shanghai, and will have a lot of trouble at Istanbul, just because the Yamaha is lacking top end. So by the time we get back to Le Mans in a couple of months' time, the situation may look a little different.
Me too, I largely lost interst in the race after that. Chris did well though.Quote:
Originally Posted by fatman
Re Kropotkins review; I can believe that something happened to Hopper other than loosing the front end. If you watch carefully he is half thrown from the bike even while the two wheels are in line and gripping.
I'm thinking about useing the extra time to get caught up on the 250 (and maybe 125) races of the season thus far. Life is kinda busy here in LALUville so if we get QP and the race in its a good thing. I'd like to get more time with the 250s so we had a better idea of whos who when they come up to MotoGP.Quote:
Originally Posted by tha_jackal
The 250 race was incredible, well worth watching. Very different from the MotoGP race.
I loved Toni Elias though, he's an absolute nutcase!
Seems Jerez couldn't make everybody satisfied with the motogp result :)
It's incredible race for Colin Edwards, as for Rossi and Pedrosa many people have predicted to fight that way in so many next-coming races. Honda have found their ideal speed, but Yamaha have found their ideal compromised speed and aero device package.
For 250 cc Bautista performed faster than it should, i think Alvaro will have some podium and even challenge the title, but not now maybe some day later on, he performed beyond my expectation. That was ideal Jorge and Alvaro hold 1-2 podium at Jerez, perfect day
It's more about color and SPEED
La razza di domenica era molto buona che ho piaciuto esso molto molto eccitando! io giusto spera che la prossima razza sarà proprio come eccitando!
English please
She said "Well Valentino, you can park those shiny AlpineStars under my bed ANY time you like, big boy" ; )
Sorry i prefer italian! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by harsha
Dunque la fotte! :D
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Originally Posted by The Phantom
I though that it read " I've a lovely set of skittles, and you can strike them all night, big boy Vale"
Unfortunately didn't see the race, had other stuff do to. :)
As expected, Elias was strong on his home circuit. Hopefully he can keep that form on other circuits this season. Yamaha showed again that they are stronger than last year. Rossi seems to be a clear title favourite at the moment.
Hayden seems to go the same way as Thomas Luthi last year in 125cc - an injury is faithful for the hopes of a reigning champion...
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Originally Posted by Hotbikerchic33
Sunday's race was very good (then a verb I don't know, something to do with being pleasing) then very exciting. I just hope that the next race will be just as exciting.
I think. Funny thing is, I thought the Italian for race was "gara" not "razza".
Kind of funny that the closest MotoGP grid ever produced a processional race. Guess it's cos they've been doing a lot of testing there and so the race setups were basically all sorted.
The 125s were pretty good though, good battle for the lead at the end and a great ride from Pol Espargaro in 4th place [he's 15 years old btw. Great things beckon] amongst others. Shame for Bradley Smith, his race was ruined by Pasini barging them both off on lap 2. He will improve.
And the 250s were excellent, it did look impossible to pick a winner. I'd been a bit iffy about Alvaro's preseason form (hence why I didn't pick him for my team - he's been one of my fave riders since 2004) but that was a star performance. Dovi was also excellent, fighting Honda's battle on his own this year in 250s so far (Takahashi is still recovering from broken bones last year so isn't on the pace).
And an excellent crowd on hand, it kinda felt weird watching Qatar for the start of the season with no crowd there. Much better in Jerez!
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Originally Posted by patnicholls
I was wondering about that. Which overpaid bean counter chose Qatar as the season opener? And how many more years is Dorna contracted to hold races there? It seems like a very bad place to have 800cc's of world class race bike pouring heat onto a rider covered head to toe in leather, fibreglass, polycarbonates and plastics! I caught a vid from MotoGP.com about the night tests they ran at Qatar in the hopes of saving some of the heat by running the races at night. Lighting was an issue which is too bad because having one night race in the season would be cool!
Not bad well done :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Kropotkin
Now what am i saying??? :confused:
Il valentino va vincere il campionato quest'anno con la venuta di Dani o Casey seconda! :p ;) :D
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Originally Posted by Hotbikerchic33
That Valentino will win the championship this year with Dani or Casey second. I'm not sure about your guesses for second place though. We'll have to wait and see!
Other than Qatar, Istanbul Turkey is the less crowd race either. I think aside of number of money contracted to host the race in couple years there, we have to acknowledge about diversity. Motogp isn't only for Europe consumption but let them in different side of this planet have chance to watch such interesting sport too.Quote:
Originally Posted by edlalu
Night race maybe an idea to try something feels differently and to solve temperature issue of tropical race, but it may require a thoughtful study about its feasibility relating to rider safety and the costing.Quote:
Originally Posted by edlalu
I think if temperature is a serious problem, trying racing to the afternoon, let’s say from 1.00 pm onward isn't a fault. Make the races of all three classes more compact, the race shouldn't exceed 4.00 pm.
Alternatively the smaller classes can start off in the morning, 9-12 am, and motogp start on 2.00 pm.
It will give me time in between the two races for taking rest. :)
Very good almost right!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kropotkin
Now this one :D
Me pensa che la sua scoperta delle risposte su un sito web di alcuni generi io sia giustamente o ho torto?? ;)
I think Shanghai and Qatar are the two races with the lowest attendances. Istanbul gets some 30,000 spectators, which isn't bad. Plus, Istanbul is a fantastic racetrack, unlike Shanghai which is absolutely awful. Qatar isn't bad as a track, but it's a little abstract, you can tell it's been designed by computer. But Istanbul really flows, it's lovely.Quote:
Originally Posted by leopardsleeping
So, I hope they drop Shanghai first if MotoGP goes to Indy next year. It would be no loss, in my opinion.
That one contains words I don't know. (I know a bit of Spanish, and read Motograndprix.it to keep up with MotoGP news). But I think you're saying something along the lines of: I think that you are looking up your answers on a web site. And the rest is a bit of a mystery, sorry!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hotbikerchic33
How could recommend an awful race like Sanghai to be dropped off ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kropotkin
Istanbul had about 32,000 spectators last year, I didn't know Qatar and Shanghai have less than it, I doubt some 20,000 tickets sold out would cover the cost of hosting the race, regardless money from sponsors organizing the race event.
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Originally Posted by leopardsleeping
Don't know about Shanghai, but Qatar had 3,000 spectators last year. More this year, maybe in the 10s. The Commercial Bank of Qatar pay enough to cover the costs, I don't think anyone is worried about the income from tickets.
I think it's more the fault of the local race organizer socialize the event to local public, I believe Qatar bank and the government won't be worried about how to cover the expenses and how much deficit income from tickets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kropotkin
I only didn't see 3,000 spectators could give sufficient spirit to the rider. :laugh:
I don't think that there's enough local interest to fill the race track. This year, a lot of British fans flew over to watch the race, so you saw a lot of "foreign" fans in the stands, but the local Qataris just aren't interested in motorsports. Fortunately, all that oil money has meant that there are a few rich Qataris who are happy to build race tracks just for fun...Quote:
Originally Posted by leopardsleeping
Maybe they will someday, not now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kropotkin
How do you see about facility and property equipped for Lossail, is it quite acceptable to hold international event like motogp?, in my naked eyes they are ready and eligible, they have what it takes.
Yeah mostly in the stands are 'foreign', I just couldn't see Qatar women on the seats :D
Qatar is a small nation, population about 800k, with that in mind 3000 locals is the same population percentage as the 140000 Spanish fans at Jerez
even if the people of Qatar do become interested in motorsports its hard to expect more than 8-10K fans attending the race
I found this on Hayden's website, it reads like an HRC press release to meQuote:
Originally Posted by Kropotkin
http://www.nickyhayden.com/new/headlines.php?pr=292
Total Weekend Attendance : 6,744 Race Day Attendance: 4,132
and Jerez
Total Weekend Attendance : 244,461 Race Day Attendance: 132,168
Your not bad at this well done my friend! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Kropotkin
che il suo lotto per adesso ma bene fatto ;)
Btw, what languages being subject of yours other than English, that is good both of you can speak Italy.
I have ever learned Chinese but retired before mastering any words other than numeric, one of hardest languages, it has different letter for each word and syllable. Maxu must have been mastering in Chinese, learning a language in bed is the most effective :D
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