as usual, you are clueless, in the end, signifying nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollo
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as usual, you are clueless, in the end, signifying nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollo
Bush did it because he thought it was for the good of the country and the civilized world.......Perry would only have done it because he thought it would put money in his pocket in some form, shape or fashion and get him or keep him elected.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave B
If the enviromentalists want a "green" president, then all they need to do is put enough "green" in his pocket in some off shore, non-traceable accounts and in his close friends' pockets, along with a quarantee that the votes would be there for his getting elected, and they got their man!!!
Like I said, he was bad enough that the old staunch Texas Repubes, went out and specially recruited the Texas senator Hutchinson to run against him in the primaries. But he stomped her good as side by side, he made the best appearance-----politically speaking. One reason for the move to bring her in to the race for the namination was that he had packed the Transportation department with his cronies who were selling Texas public roads to the Spanish for tolling, causing outrage (or so you would think)....people fussed, but still voted for Rickie
What, for quoting the law and stating the truth? I agree though, the law is worth nothing in your country.Quote:
Originally Posted by markabilly
Are there any memorable Obama quotes apart from 'Yes we can'. A few JFKs are in this.
Shona Laing - (Glad I'm) Not A Kennedy (Extended Remix) (1986) (Audio) - YouTube
The voting machines will probably decide the outcome of the elections.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electio...s_%26_Software
Things are beginning to look more and more like Rickie will be our new leader..told you guys to watch out for Rickie!!!!!!....
Sad thing is that in a number of areas, I agree with Perry. For example, gun control (well up to a point) and so on. And it is not his sometimes weird ideas that bother me........like global warming or creation views........
The problem with him is that I know him for the crook that he is...... :eek:
In a contest between sell-outs, which was how Obama got the presidency and marked his career, beginning with the Harvard law Review job that I alluded to earlier, where he loudly pays homage to one set of ideals, while working the back-door to take care of Wall Street fat cats (the latter being something ignored by vpop and Reibe), Perry just takes care of the fat cats upfront, when or if they got the bread and power to make it pay good for him
Rick Perry super PAC takes aim at rivals - politics - Decision 2012 - msnbc.comQuote:
The new super PAC backing Rick Perry has drawn up plans to spend $55 million as part of an ambitious campaign strategy aimed at blowing away the Texas governor's rivals in early primary states and securing him the Republican nomination by next spring, according to internal committee documents obtained by NBC News.
meanwhile for obama:
Obama hits all-time low, NBC News/WSJ poll finds - politics - msnbc.comQuote:
After the bruising debt-ceiling fight — as well as Standard & Poor's subsequent downgrade of the nation's credit rating — Obama's job approval rating has sunk to a low of 44 percent, a 3-point drop since July. His handling of the economy stands at a low of 37 percent. And only 19 percent believe the country is headed in the right direction, the lowest mark for this president.
Perhaps most ominously for Obama, a majority of poll takers — 54 percent — think he's facing a longer-term setback from which he's unlikely to recover. Back in January, just 39 percent agreed with that assessment.
What's more, in a hypothetical general election contest, Obama leads Texas Gov. Rick Perry by five points, 47 percent to 42 percent. And he leads former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney by one, 46 percent to 45 percent, though that margin is down five points since June.
But for the first time in the poll, more say they'd probably vote for a generic Republican candidate (44 percent) than say they'd probably vote for Obama (40 percent).
"Obama is no longer the favorite to win re-election," Hart said, explaining that a head-to-head score will usually conform to the generic one, especially when so many believe the country is headed in the wrong direction.
Perry takes commanding GOP lead
And there's a new favorite in the race for the Republican presidential nomination.
Heading into the post-Labor Day sprint and the NBC News/Politico-sponsored debate at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library on Wednesday, Perry is the first choice among 38 percent of GOP voters — followed by Romney at 23 percent, Texas Rep. Ron Paul at 9 percent and Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann at 8 percent.
Meanwhile Bachmann has toasted herself--or more accurately, her manager (and his chef adie) toasted her, by quiting because Bachmann was a now nothing more than a "third candidate" which was a nice way of calling her a loser.......
Key Bachmann aide quits, says she's '3rd candidate' - politics - Decision 2012 - msnbc.com
BTW, the manager was named Ed Rollins....something of a heavy weight in such areas.
But he has a way of quiting that sinks campaigns as in Bachmann's case....
:dozey:
Example: Ross Perot was doing well, and perhaps headed for the white house, when he and Rollins parted ways as a result of an internal fight... a few days later, perot quit the race.....but then much later, tried to jump back in.
When he quit Ross Perot, that effectively ended his campaign, although later Perot tried to overcome the stuff that erupted when Rollins sadi Perot was emotionally unfir to be president.....If Ross had not jumped back in, clinton would not have been president. Perot took about 20 percent of the vote that would have gone to Bush senior, hence effectively giving the election to Bill Clinton.
How effective is Rick getting to be with this money for ads???
everytime I click onto this thread, up pops a banner telling me to vote for Rick
To make any absolute predictions this early is either just plain silly, or trolling for outraged responses from silly people.
Obama 57 statesQuote:
Originally Posted by Zeakiwi
At a campaign event in Beaverton, Oregon, in May 2008, Obama claimed to have visited 57 U.S. states during the campaign.
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Obama Reads Wrong Speech on Teleprompter at WH St. Pats Party
Irish Prime Minister Brian Cowen reads word for word a speech that Obama had just read from a teleprompter, while the president apparently thanked himself for the invitation.
Associated Press
Wednesday, March 18, 2009
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OBAMA PROMISED FIVE DAYS OF REVIEW OF HIS PROPOSED STIMULUS LEGISLATION.
STIMULUS BILL WAS PRESENTED ON A FRIDAY AND SIGNED THAT MONDAY
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OBAMA GIVING A 25 DVD GIFT SET TO THE PRIME MINISTER OF BRITAIN THAT WON'T EVEN PLAY ON BRITISH DVD PLAYERS
That last bit might be true. After Brown presented Obama with a pen holder crafted from the timbers of the 19th century British warship HMS President (whose sister ship, HMS Resolute, provided the wood for the Oval Office's desk), Obama offered up ... 25 DVDs of American movie classics...
Never mind that Brown is blind in one eye and may have a hard time seeing the stars in "2001: A Space Odyssey," or that American DVDs are usually incompatible with British players.
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On Thursday, at Fort Drum, New York, as reported by the Military Times, Obama told the 10th Mountain Division he had the privilege of meeting “a comrade of yours, Jared Monti” adding it was “the first person who I was able to award the Medal of Honor to who actually came back and wasn’t receiving it posthumously.” Turns out Monti did receive it posthumously, as Obama presented the award to his parents at a White House ceremony in 2009. After CBN inquired about the gaffe, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney clarified that the President had confused Monti with “Salvatore Giunta, who was the first living recipient of the Medal who served in Afghanistan.”
Making predictions based on unknown events is the basis of some entire industries.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Riebe
http://sports.williamhill.com/bet/en...Candidate.html
And to be perfectly honest, for a lot of us who don't live in the United States and also have no say at all, the whole subject of US Politics is entertaining in the same way as watching Rangers v Celtic (and the participants are just as mindless), basically it's "Hooray, Boo, Hooray, Boo" then yell at each other for 90 minutes and then go home.
Markability, you may be surprised, but I will be happy if Perry is just a crook and not a vicious, fanatical Taliban.
From the way Obama is running the war on terrorism, you had better hope he is not a Taliban agent.Quote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
Yeah, it's not as if Osama bin Laden caught a bullet in the face on his watch, eh? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Riebe
What we need is another President who'll launch a war against a country based on a family beef and basically ignore countries that (actually) foster terrorism. Just like Nixon's "War on Drugs", the "War on Terrorism" (or terrizm, as the neocons put it) has been a complete joke. The Zionist neocons wanted a Holy War against Islam.... just like the radical Islamists wanted a Holy War against Westerners. Two sides of the same coin, IMO. I say, throw the whole lot of them in a giant stadium with knives and sharpened sticks and see who wins. And whoever wins, shoot them as they do their victory cheer.
Less competition. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
After tonight's debates, there are only two questions remaining:
1. Will somebody be able to pull something out of the closet about Rick that will actually knock the Perry choo-choo train off the tracks? (well I sort of doubt it)
2. Will Perry beat Obama? (as to those who say no, well all I can say is, repeating myself again, do not make the mistake of many a past Perry hater-opponent and understimate ole Ricky
As to the Republican nomination, well unless something really really unique and nasty pops out of Rickie's closet-----you know like one parent was Jewish, the other was black Taliban, and when perry is not down at the local gay orgy having some fun, he is sacrificing small children at a devil worship group------ well, boys, stick a fork in it, cause it is done. Turn out the lights......
Mind you, I ain't saying Romney is not the best man for the job, and from what I know, well he seems to be the better man for the job. And clearly more likely to beat Obama.
But when pistol-packing Rickie starts dumping on him and comparing him to the worst of all candidates for national office (Dukakis), Rummieboy looks whiny and weak:
"Michael Dukakis created jobs three times faster than you did, Mitt,"
"You cannot keep the status quo in place and call it anything other than a Ponzi scheme"
""monstrous lie" "(social security) is a Ponzi scheme to tell our kids that are 25 or 30 years today you're paying into a program that's going to be there Anybody that's for the status quo with Social Security today is involved with a monstrous lie to our kids, and it's not right
"Maybe it's time to have some provocative language in this country."
"As a matter of fact, we created more jobs in the last three months in Texas than he created in four years in Massachusetts"
And of all the candidates, he appeared the most at ease.
The teabaggers in the republican party are now more than ever going to be flocking to him....
Makes me really wonder, just how cold does it get in Canada in January 2013? :dozey:
Ummmmm wonder which loser will win. Probably another 4 years before a "hitter" will surface. Oh I have a titanium spine. right I want a titanium dick so I can enjoy myself as the world goes in the sh!tter.
I think that Obama is doing a good job with that. He may look peaceful, he might be peaceful, but Osama is done and I won't be surprised if soon Gadaffi follows. His big problem is that he is unable to revive the economics, but the Congress is blocking him to a degree. I really hope that Obama will get a 2nd term, I am sure that if he does, the US will become a better place for itself and for the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Riebe
But Perry will be very tough rival.
Perry made an ass of himself at the debate, doubling down on his anti social security rhetoric (and getting torn to pieces by Romney of all people for it) and apparently nearly coming to blows with Ron Paul. Like Bush before him he looks good until you put him on stage, then he's batty as Bachmann. To his credit he knows this and tried to get out of the debate all together saying he needed to go watch his state burn down while all those socialist northern states rushed to get proper fire fighting equipment sent down to him. Perry cut this sort of funding by some 30% lately and those flaming pigeons are now roosting very comfortably.
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/8197/...ulhuntsman.jpg
[Perry re-enacts a scene from his favorite movie, 'Over the Top']
The only real winner out there was Ron Paul (but only to his cult followers) and maybe John Huntsman (in the middle looking very sick of the whole proceeding) who was the only reasonably sane voice all night. So of course he hasn't a hope in heck for the nomination when the base is composed of people who make the Monster Raving Loonies look sane.
Come to think of it, the real winner was the President.
Romney and Paul are the only two Republican candidates I'd consider voting for if I was American
I find US politics very disconcerting. From what we see here this Bachmann woman is married to a guy that claims he can cure people from being gay. He may be his own best patient. Sarah Palin? Here at home she is a laughing stock and it is hoped (prayed she will not win). She is so completely out her element. Clueless in everyway about politics and the rest of the world. What is it with the witch doctor? Two people from the same party with real serious issues. Perry I know nothing about except he seems sane and the best. Only issue he has is his stance on climate change. How can anyone with a brain not see there is something happening that did not occur with the same magnitude and frequency.
Obama is good. He has had tough battles to fight but, he forgot many issues he should have tackled. Torture being one of them. Swing voters could go with Perry because of this.
Perry: "I just wish I had my Ruger semi-automatic american made pistol. With this hand, I would have killed all you whimpy asses in this debate....I can not beleive you call youselves American..."Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregor-y
Ron Paul: "I can not beleive you are from Texas......"
Huntsman(in the middle): "I can not beleive i have made it this far..."
http://blog.chron.com/rickperry/file...ul-600x394.jpg
Perry: "what, you will not marry me?"
Ron: "Look, you are a nice guy, I am sure you will find another guy to love you more than I ever could....."
Perry: "That is it, you've gotten your last BJ from me. No more will I be Mr. Nice guy....
http://blog.chron.com/rickperry/file...ul-600x394.jpg
Paul: "but Gore...."
Perry: "but Gore nothing. So what if I supported Gore in 1988. You have no idea what he promised me.....but since then, I have seen the light and the error of my prior wicked ways. And I am telling you, the money is better on this side..yes, sir.....
Actually this photo is really just two fellow Texans from Texas discussing their preferences for eyeliner.....
did I mention that Perry was totally behind Gore in 1988......(no pun intended)
Quote:
"I remember Rick Perry from that campaign. He was one of a number of Democratic legislators who endorsed my candidacy in 1988, and I was happy to have his support,” Gore said. “I don’t know what has happened to him since then.”
well, me neither, but my educated guess is it is green, just not the green that gore had in mind when he made his movie....
Al Gore says he was
It's just Texas politics. Personally I think we need less of it in the rest of the country these days.
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/2791/lbjkisses.jpg
Johnson was a pretty ruthless senator himself before becoming President.
The trick to success is finding a way to balance things out:
http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/1...andkennedy.jpg
The problem being there's no Republican that looks to have a chance of moderating the wackiness.
You can have Cameron :p :Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregor-y
Moderating?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregor-y
It is the Liberal, Keynesian ideals embraced by the Republicans that has got us in the mess we are in!
The world needs a real Free Market Conservative in the White House ASAP!!!!
Thanks, no. Riots are the last thing we need at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
Gary Johnson?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregor-y
Supports gay marriage and marijuana legalisation, while keeping the bible belt happy with a pro life position?
Palin is a laughing stock here to most. She has her group of fanatical supporters, but she has no chance to win the Presidency even if she decides to run. Bachmann also has no chance. These types get some play in the media with their sound bites early on, but they disappear quickly once the campaigning gets more serious. If you take some time to learn more about Perry, you'll probably be more worried than you are now about Palin and Bachmann. I wouldn't put the word sane and Perry together unless "in" is put in front of and attached to sane.Quote:
Originally Posted by monadvspec
Most being whom?Quote:
Originally Posted by DBell
I assume you have proof for your rhetoric, other than your own opinion.
So based on Perry's statement on illegal immigration I have written him off. Romey is a poser and not worthy. I think probably Bachmann will get the nod as a VP candidate.Quote:
Originally Posted by DBell
We can send you our Malema if you want. We would even pay off your national debt to take him :p :
You've got 300,000,000 people in your country. Are these jokers seriously the best candidates you could scrape up?
Not being able to produce a competitive F1 driver for a generation, or being incapable of brewing drinkable beer: that I can just about understand. But you must have someone who's capable of running for office without being a laughing stock, surely.
Have you gone outside the "macro" breweries? There are many, many fine and tasty micro breweries, and many of them are getting bigger and better all the time. Bell's, Founders, Sierra Nevada, Flying Dog, just to name a few.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave B
Bells has only recently gotten distribution in my area and it's very good, though I've had a few small 'limited' offerings from Goose Island that are also quite pleasant.
As for F1 drivers in a generation, the last I remember was Eddie Cheever who by the mid 80s wasn't much of a threat. Being a two Honda family at the time we were generally rooting for Mansell, Prost or Senna.
Can't we just exile that racist idiot to his beloved inspirational country, Zimbabwe, and ban him from leaving?Quote:
Originally Posted by 555-04Q2
Don't want to be in the same hemisphere as him.
You're forgeting Michael Andretti, for one season, and Scott Speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregor-y
I'm not forgetting; I'm choosing to ignore... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by DBell
Sorry about Obama....We will get it right next time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave B
Gary Johnson got a check from me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain VXR
Sad thing is the Media refuse to even mention him because they fear him and his politics.
Drinkable beer they are figuring out..just stay way from the big breweries, F1? They don't really give a damn and what is more, the Euro Weenies that run f1 think Americans cant drive anyhow. Never mind they thought Andretti was a bum when he first showed up, they dismissed Phil Hill at first, thought nothing of Gurney....so nothing really has changed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave B
But aah. politics. On this one, I have always felt the GOP has been very good at shooting themselves in the foot. A blunt, populist with moderate views on some hot button topics would likely win in a walk. Look no further than Reagan in how he was successful in getting elected. Reagan was on many issues moderate right. He was for less government but he had compassion. He believed in self reliance, and he respected religion, but he didn't shove it on anyone and was secular in his governence. The GOP cant find a guy with that sort of balance. Or woman. They keep careening back and forth with flawed candidate after flawed candidate. Christie in New Jersey would win....if he could win a state that is always voting in Democrats, he could win at large, but a large part of the GOP keeps insisting their President should read the Bible, outlaw abortion and kick all the hispanics out. They don't REPRESENT what the GOP is, no more than the communistic morons like Noam Chomsky define the Democrats...but they are driving the bus to a point. Hence emotionally brittle whack jobs like Bachmann get attention. Perry is one of those guys when I didn't know much about him impressed me. Since he has started talking more, I realize I don't trust the guy.....but alas, I am not an American, I just live across the lake from them....so I will eat my popcorn and watch the show...
No, Zimbabwe is still too close too us :p : Maybe send him to the moon :?: ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain VXR