I'm fed up with all the talk of 'The Show'.
If they're really concerned about it, just makes the cars all the same, and be done with it.......
What ever happened to technology and being 'The Pinnacle'...????
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I'm fed up with all the talk of 'The Show'.
If they're really concerned about it, just makes the cars all the same, and be done with it.......
What ever happened to technology and being 'The Pinnacle'...????
Became secondary to making money.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
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Originally Posted by ioan
The FW-15 was the most technologically advanced F1 car ever... That was 18 years ago...Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
Does anyone know are the cars slower/faster now?
At the end of the day, hundreds of millions of go into the cars for major teams, if there were no limits they would eventually bankrupt themselves. And else everyone except Ferrari, McLare and RBR would be well behind the 107%.
Exactly!! There aren't enough 'purists' - and so have to make the sport attractive to the average Joe......Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Luckily there is Le Mans and endurance racing for those who like to witness great automotive technology where the average Joe feels bored. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
Canadian GP 1993:Quote:
Originally Posted by Koz
Pole time: Prost 1m18.987s - FW15C
Fastest Lap: Michael Schumacher - 1m21.500s
Canadian GP 2011:
Pole time: Sebastian Vettel - 1m13.014s
Fastest lap: Jenson Button - 1m16.956s
Cars are faster now.
But not consistently so:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollo
2011 Spanish GP:
Pole: 1:20.981
Fastest Lap: 1:26.727
1993 Spanish GP:
Pole: 1:17.809
Fastest Lap: 1:20.989
Just over 107% :D
Quicker in Monaco this year, too though.
Yes but you guys were still making Mk1 Golfs up until recently ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruce D
Yes, but how much of that is tyres?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollo
I think this is very true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robinho
Anyone who's has ever heard a WRCar will know that just because it's small doesn't mean it'll sound crap.
As another example of downsizing, Alfa Romeo have replaced their 3.2 v6 engines with a 1742cc turbo engine which only puts out 20bhp less and which is obviously a lot lighter and more environmentally friendly. They've also got a 170bhp 1.4 turbo in the Giulietta which produces the same amount of CO2 as the 1.2l engine in our Fiat 500.
Progress indeed.
I do hope they go to i4's and not v6's.
Yes, but that's not a fair comparison.Quote:
Originally Posted by Koz
The 1993 track is a smoother track to the 2011 course. If you compare the two, La Caixa is a far sharper turn now and Europcar to New Holland has a kink which never existed in the 1993 track. The new 2011 version is also marginally longer.
The Canadian GP is probably the only track to make fair comparison on, because the circuit can be altered so very very very little.
Tyres, suspension, etc. have all improved.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollo
Also, compare the GpB Rally cars v the modern WRCars - the modern WRC's are faster over a stage, yet have less power. It's called progress.
We've both forgotten aerodynamics as well!Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
Wonder why ACO mandated 3.7L diesel engines...Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
As a motor sport fan it makes a change where other categories put great emphasis on aero whereas NASCAR has more emphasis on mechanical engineering.Quote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
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Originally Posted by AndyRAC