F1 model thread

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Originally Posted by daz90

Could i ask where you might buy those from? i am on the look out for these items myself, but my local Model shop (Grantham) dont stock them, and a half hearted search on eBay didn't come up trumps either.

Have you ever heard of Micro - Sol and Micro - Set these are what have been recomended to me, and these are the two things i am on the look out for.

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Try Hear, I'm on the lookout myself My Hobbie-shop just closed and No one else in my area sells it either.
http://www.microscale.com/

Cheers for the link.

I think the only way to buy these items is via mail order. No better way than a companys official web site too :)

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Originally Posted by Dazz9908

A Clear coat looks good but If you are using Tamiya Gloss Clear, don't use it over the Decals, apply it first, before the decals, if you do it over the top of the decals they will crack up in time (spider web look- you 'll cry).
I recommend Microscale -Micro Gloss, It's safe to paint over the decals and non yellows. I've had models for over 10yrs and look as good as the day I finish them.
I did one before In Tamiya Gloss Clear and the decals cracked and yellowed in time as described above. I since re-made this model.

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Their acrylic gloss clear in little bottles or their acrylic laquer gloss in spray cans?

Most "hot" laquer will attack decals and needs to be applied with a couple dusting coats (light coats from a distance so it is mostly dry befor it hits) followed by a wet coat. Yellowing can happen with several types of white paint too.

Help needed, I'm searching for good quality pictures of details of the F2000 Ferrari as I decided to further detail the engine, and the brakes.

Thanks in advance.

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2001: Ralf Schumacher first win special edition (with hand raised) (Mattel)
2003: Michael Schumacher (Ferrari) (Mattel)
Mark Webber (Jaguar) (Mattel)
Christiano Da Matta (Toyota) (Minichamps)
2004: Jarno Trulli (Renault) (Mattel)
2005: Kimi Raikkonen (Mclaren) (Mattel)

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2003: Rubens Barrichello (Ferrari) (Mattel)
2004: Hungaroring twin pack special edition (Ferrari's) (Mattel)

Just bought a Tyrell of Mika Salo from '97 for £4.

Just wanted to share my newest addition:

http://www.illucid.org/Upload/F2001.jpg

Its a Tamiya F201 chasis, since I'm not a huge fan of Ferrari, I will probably get a new body and do it up like something current if I can decide on a favorite team (if not then she becomes a sauber :p : )

Pic came from the ebay add I won it from, spare body that still needs the decals is MS's 911 inspired black nose, ran at indy. I'll get it in about two weeks but looking forward to playing with it :)

If I get good at it, I may follow Hamilton's lead and go from racing rc's to go karts to eventually race in F1 too :p :

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Originally Posted by extrom fan

Just bought a Tyrell of Mika Salo from '97 for £4.

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I have the same thing (Minichamps) that I purchased for about the same price :D

I got an onyx Williams of HHf from '97 and a '04 bruni minardi for £4 and £9.99 respectively.

I'm just placing the decals on a Tazio Nuvolari driven Auto Union Type D, 1/32 Revell kit (a real pain in the a$$). :D
But a nice car after all.

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Originally Posted by ioan

I'm just placing the decals on a Tazio Nuvolari driven Auto Union Type D, 1/32 Revell kit (a real pain in the a$$). :D
But a nice car after all.

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Sounds like an interesting model. Pics please when you're done :)

Pictures of the Auto Union Type D in 1/32 scale, kit by Revell (not great by any means).
The rear cower can be removed to showcase a somewhat detailed engine that gave me plenty of troubles because of it's height.
The front cover is also removable but there is little to see.

Further pics

Another one

Not the best quality pics but can't do better for the limited allowed size.

Suspension is pretty detailed but you can't see much of it after you put the bodywork on it.

I need some help with finding pictures, lots of them, of the 1990 Leyton House CG901. I'm planing to build it next starting with the Tamiya 1/20 scale kit and than maybe doing some extra detailing.

If any of you can help, it will be very appreciated!

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Originally Posted by ioan

... kit by Revell (not great by any means). ..

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It's been many years since I've built a plastic model, but from what I remember Revell kits often had poor-fitting parts.
Tamiya was just the opposoite... always good quality.

Thanks for the pics :)

i have a few not many

cant remember the years and such i have put them in the attic for now

dc williams helmet
ferrari barrichello helmet
ferrari irvine helmet
dc silver mac
black testing ferrari
Kimis 2001 sauber .. not letting go of that baby! :D
frentzens williams


my mom has plently of schumacher models :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by f1icemen

i have a few not many

cant remember the years and such i have put them in the attic for now

dc williams helmet
ferrari barrichello helmet
ferrari irvine helmet
dc silver mac
black testing ferrari
Kimis 2001 sauber .. not letting go of that baby! :D
frentzens williams


my mom has plently of schumacher models :rolleyes:

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Nice collection!
You also have a cool mom!
You mean she has Schumacher helmet models or driver models?

For those of you who are interested in F1 models there is a new 1/20 scale model being released by Fujimi in June:

G. Villeneuve's 1982 San Marino GP Ferrari 126C2

I already ordered mine!

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Originally Posted by schmenke

It's been many years since I've built a plastic model, but from what I remember Revell kits often had poor-fitting parts.
Tamiya was just the opposoite... always good quality.

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Some early Tamiya kits are nothing special. Some Revell kits are fine. To their credit, Revell have done a lot of F1 subjects in recent years with last year's BMW Sauber being their latest. And they did do a 1/12 F2002 and have a Audi R10 on the way! Its been eons since Tamiya did a 1/12 F1 car!

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Originally Posted by codalunga

Some early Tamiya kits are nothing special. Some Revell kits are fine. To their credit, Revell have done a lot of F1 subjects in recent years with last year's BMW Sauber being their latest. And they did do a 1/12 F2002 and have a Audi R10 on the way! Its been eons since Tamiya did a 1/12 F1 car!

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The 1/12 F2002 was one of the very few, aybe the only, good Revell F1 kits and it was very very expensive. Plus their other F1 kits are all 1/24 (while other F1 kit manufacturers had generally 1/20 scale models).

This being said I'm waiting to see the quality of the Revell Audi R10 and the Ferrari 250 GTO (both gonna be released in July this year).

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Originally Posted by ioan

The 1/12 F2002 was one of the very few, aybe the only, good Revell F1 kits and it was very very expensive. Plus their other F1 kits are all 1/24 (while other F1 kit manufacturers had generally 1/20 scale models).

This being said I'm waiting to see the quality of the Revell Audi R10 and the Ferrari 250 GTO (both gonna be released in July this year).

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The F2002 usually sells for about $75, at the lower end of the 1/12 scale F1 kit spectrum. Its detail is not great but we can't be too picky these days. There is some aftermarket parts to spruce it up. Its prepainted and the paint doesn't all match on mine, so a redo is in order.

Revell have reissued some old Protar 1/12 kits in 1/12, like the 126C and 312T (and perhaps the 312T2, T3, T4 and T5?) Sometimes Protar was on the mark, sometimes they fell short. A review in R&T put the Protar 312T close but not quite at the quality of the Tamiya version. Revell does some fine work sometimes. I have the Revell and Tamiya Enzos on my bench. Although the Tamiya smokes the Revell, the Tamiya is also 3X the price of the Revell. Had we never gotten the Tamiya, we'd be pretty happy with it.

The upcoming 250 GTO is a reissue of the old Italeri kit, also once boxed as Testors. Modelers endlessly discuss the merits of it verses the Gunze and Protar versions but if one looks through a lot of old model car annuals, most of the knock yer socks off contest winning GTOs were based on the Italeri.

Anybody know why 1/20 is a popular scale in plastic models while 1/18 is popular in diecast? Wouldn't they look better side-by-side if the scales were the same?

I am sticking to 1/43 diecast and metal kits due to space limits.

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Originally Posted by codalunga

The F2002 usually sells for about $75, at the lower end of the 1/12 scale F1 kit spectrum. Its detail is not great but we can't be too picky these days. There is some aftermarket parts to spruce it up. Its prepainted and the paint doesn't all match on mine, so a redo is in order.

Revell have reissued some old Protar 1/12 kits in 1/12, like the 126C and 312T (and perhaps the 312T2, T3, T4 and T5?) Sometimes Protar was on the mark, sometimes they fell short. A review in R&T put the Protar 312T close but not quite at the quality of the Tamiya version. Revell does some fine work sometimes. I have the Revell and Tamiya Enzos on my bench. Although the Tamiya smokes the Revell, the Tamiya is also 3X the price of the Revell. Had we never gotten the Tamiya, we'd be pretty happy with it.

The upcoming 250 GTO is a reissue of the old Italeri kit, also once boxed as Testors. Modelers endlessly discuss the merits of it verses the Gunze and Protar versions but if one looks through a lot of old model car annuals, most of the knock yer socks off contest winning GTOs were based on the Italeri.

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The last times I saw the 1/12 Revell F2002 it was about 90€ (117$), I've found it a bit expensive (without talking about the price of the needed upgrade kit).

One of the things I don't like with Revell is the fit of the parts.
But the most important turn off is the 1/24 scale.

I'm looking forward to the 250 GTO though, going by your opinion it will be quite a nice kit.

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Originally Posted by wmcot

Anybody know why 1/20 is a popular scale in plastic models while 1/18 is popular in diecast? Wouldn't they look better side-by-side if the scales were the same?

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They sure would look much better.
I guess that it's simply because they are simply targeting different clients and they also want to make sure that once you started with die casts (or 1/20 kits) you will stick to collecting them.

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Originally Posted by wmcot

Anybody know why 1/20 is a popular scale in plastic models while 1/18 is popular in diecast? Wouldn't they look better side-by-side if the scales were the same?

I am sticking to 1/43 diecast and metal kits due to space limits.

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Although there had been 1/20 kits before, Tamiya's 1/20 line launched around 1977 became very popular due in large part to the very popular Tyrrell P34 and Porsche 935. They have released over 50 kits in that scale.

There was a smattering of 1/18 in the late 60s/early 70s, including four racecars by Tamiya, but the scale didn't catch on until the diecast explosion many years later. We should be lucky 1/16th faded away in there somewhere, as well as 1/28! The first F1 diecast I remember seeing was 1/14th scale Ferrari 312 from 1974.

I buy primarily for subject matter and have many cars in many scales so having them all in one scale isn't important to me. Most modelers I know, and that's a lot, model in more than 1 scale.

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Originally Posted by codalunga

Although there had been 1/20 kits before, Tamiya's 1/20 line launched around 1977 became very popular due in large part to the very popular Tyrrell P34 and Porsche 935. They have released over 50 kits in that scale.

There was a smattering of 1/18 in the late 60s/early 70s, including four racecars by Tamiya, but the scale didn't catch on until the diecast explosion many years later. We should be lucky 1/16th faded away in there somewhere, as well as 1/28! The first F1 diecast I remember seeing was 1/14th scale Ferrari 312 from 1974.

I buy primarily for subject matter and have many cars in many scales so having them all in one scale isn't important to me. Most modelers I know, and that's a lot, model in more than 1 scale.

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I guess I have always been picky about scale since I was a kid building plastic models. I used to buy 1/24 or 1/25 models for $2.00 a kit ($1.50 on sale!)

I must have a bit of OCD because I'm so picky about scale. For example, I started to buy BBR factory built 1/43 diecast Ferraris to replace my older (and cheaper) MiniChamps, Brumm, etc models and I noticed that some of the BBRs are a bit larger than their MiniChamps counterparts.

I've never purchased a BBR model. How is the quality comparted to Minichamps?

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Originally Posted by ioan

I'm looking forward to the 250 GTO though, going by your opinion it will be quite a nice kit.

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Remember I said those contest winners were "based on" the Italeri kit. Most have Replica & Miniatures engines, photoetch, and aftermarket wheels.

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Originally Posted by codalunga

Remember I said those contest winners were "based on" the Italeri kit. Most have Replica & Miniatures engines, photoetch, and aftermarket wheels.

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If the body proportions are good, not even perfect, than I'll be already pleased with it.
And I would be even surprised if there would be no need for aftermarket wheels on a Revell kit as their wheels and tires are usually poor quality.

Do you have some interesting info about the Audi R10 too? Is it a new all Revell kit?

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Originally Posted by ioan

Nice collection!
You also have a cool mom!
You mean she has Schumacher helmet models or driver models?

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Fortunately helmet models i dont think i could bear the thought of hundreds of schumacher lookalikes walking about the house :D

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Originally Posted by ioan

If the body proportions are good, not even perfect, than I'll be already pleased with it.
And I would be even surprised if there would be no need for aftermarket wheels on a Revell kit as their wheels and tires are usually poor quality.

Do you have some interesting info about the Audi R10 too? Is it a new all Revell kit?

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Haven't had trouble with Revell tires but I build primarily their sportscars (Corvette racers, BMW Z8, Enzo, and others). Their 1/24 F1 kits were notoriously for their badly mishapen tires but they got retooled a few years ago when the did the Toyota and are said to be a vast improvement, with subsequent kits getting the new tires. I have heard some modelers say Revell doesn't spend as much on the F1 cars tooling as they don't sell as long or as well as many other releases, as they didn't use to be great efforts.

As far as the GTO, its a Italeri reissue and not of Revell origin. Fit and accuracy will have been up to Italeri and Revell will only be guilty for manufacturing quality issues. I should dig mine out...

There was a flurry of excitement over the R10 on some modeling boards with some pics of sprues a month or two ago. A Google search should bring them up. It is all new as there is nothing on it to borrow parts from!

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Originally Posted by codalunga

There was a flurry of excitement over the R10 on some modeling boards with some pics of sprues a month or two ago. A Google search should bring them up. It is all new as there is nothing on it to borrow parts from!

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Thanks for the info!

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Originally Posted by schmenke

I've never purchased a BBR model. How is the quality comparted to Minichamps?

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Much better quality! Minichamps are not bad, but they are diecast bodies on a plastic chassis and sometimes the bodywork is not that great. BBR are hand built from diecast and photo-etched parts. Much greater detail - for example, I had a 1993 Ferrari F93 by Minichamps. The "fuel filler" was a decal. the cooling vents on the rear of the sidepods were decals. BBR has an actual chrome piece inserted in the body for the fuel filler and the sidepods have recessed, painted cooling vents.

The newer models are even better with all the aero wings, flipups, etc. They all fit nicely and are in the right places and to scale with BBR. BBR wheels even have "O-Z" on them! Paint is exactly the right shade and always high gloss. Decals are excellent, too!

One other thing - BBR uses photo etched brass for the wings and aero flips which makes them much thinner looking and more realistic. Not to mention cockpit detail including racing harness.