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I've watched it so many times now and I've still no idea how he didn't end up in the access road. If you slow mo it, the front two wheels do clear the barrier whilst the car is inverted, but its almost like the hand of god pushes it back onto the race track side.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
Big accident . No idea who it is....
Number 1 Audi. Looks BAD
**** This does NOT look good
Clipped a Ferrari. Looks to be nothing left of the car...
Doesn't look good, is he out of the car?
Got it on mute at the minute
Rockenfeller out of the car under his own steam apparently? My god those Audi's are strong. Car burnt up?
Mike is out! Hopefully he will fully recover. Whatis it with the Audi's and Ferrari's in this race. Terrible to see these huge impacts.
Also, i'm new to the forums, thanks to Le Mans for bringing me.
never seen so much attention given to this kind of racing on espn. They haven't even heard about the second audi yet.
I was so frightened, it probably seems dumb of me to make this assumption, but I never would have believed that Rockenfeller got out of the car on his own; so when they were attending to him over the wall I thought he'd been thrown from the car.
The strange thing is, I think it was that very kink on the hunaudieres straight that Jo Bonnier tried to go inside a Ferrari (again), a GTO, and the same thing happened with fatal results.
Two horrible accidents and two very lucky drivers, not to mention the spectators and photographers. Shows how far the safety has come on.
Thankfully no fatal accidents yet but you do have to wonder how long this run will last.
Not strange at all to make those type of assumptions. As motorsport fans we are sort of prepared or geared towards expecting the worst. Also it hasn't been until very recently that we've begun to see drivers even surviving the type of accident that we've seen these Audi drivers have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shifter
Incidentally this wasn't on the Hunidieres, it was between Mulsanne corner and Indianapolis.
Well we didn't see the Audi remains properly. I did think it wasn't goo as you could see from my posts.
Tbh I was fairly sure McNish was OK. I was thinking a marshal or photographer might be badly hurt
Just seen the accident in real time from the gantry camera. Can't think of anything to say about it....it was, erm...well.....yeah.
Yeah. Scary stuff. But that's why the drivers get paid a lot more than you or i
Unbelivable, some very strong cars. Fastest part of the track. 2 very lucky Audi drivers.
Sorry I don't know why I called it the hunandieres...but yeah its the straight with the two kinks ending with the banked right at Indianapolis, a straight I've long maintained is more dangerous than the hunandieres...those two kinks are massively quick and it might be debatable whether or not a GT car can be expected to take an 'outside' line through them to let a Prototype through, especially at night...I guess they can, but it seems really easy for contact to happen there--not sure I'd be brave enough to try to pass a GT there. I too figured McNish might be hurt but I wasn't as scared for him as I was for Rocky, I guess partly because we didn't actually see what happened at first other than the onboard and then the car post-crash.
Two terrible accidents, now I hope Rockenfeller is ok... the only good thing is that at least Audi showed that their cars are really strong
GT cars are not ment to take the outside line. Any prototype driver will tell you. A GT or slower car should stay on the racing line. Its up to the faster car to overtake. In my view thats what the Farrari did, and the Audi dived for a gap that was dissapering.
I agree sw2000. I wonder if Audi's lights are too bright also.
how true,Quote:
Originally Posted by Shifter
for a moment I thought he was finished, and like you when I saw them attending to him, i too thought that he was thrown from the vehicle.
Those Audi's are pretty strong. what a testament to modern race cars
I love the raw emotion of the announcer, you can actually hear him say sh!t in german under his breath.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sonic
At that moment like everyone else, we thought the worst
in watching that video again, I think mcnish was coming in way too fast, because even if he cleared that ferrari he was going to smash into the porsches ahead as well. There was a reason why the other Audi slowed and macnish simply was a bit to aggressive and ambitious at that stage of the race. I am glad everyone walked away...and I mean everyone, but Mcnish I think was to blame for this one
A long Safety car period.
The drivers in the cars will be getting very cold by now.
Lets hope we can get this race on again very soon.
Ready to go soon. Just having a sandwich and some coke :D
In light of these accidents, do you think it is time to end the open cockpit style in LeMans?
I think if either of those audi's were open cockpits, there would be a different or worse outcome
stupid eurosport guy is talking about Audi retiring the 3rd car, that particular guy has been annoying me from the get go
thankfully the other guy is putting him in his place
Martin Haven is completely wrong here.
man that eurosport guy is annoying, the other guy can't even get a word in
is that his name?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfa Fan
and you are right, he does make a few valid points but overall he is wrong in that argument concerning the 2nd audi accident
he is even wrong in his analysis of the first audi accident
is he drunk or why is he talking non stop nonsense
he is the incarnation of murray walker
now that we are back to racing can he focus on "the racing"
How do people see this then? Obviously Audi have an uphill struggle with only one car running now. I'm not sure if I think that the speed of Audi will win over the economy of the Pug.
I think the Audi will win. It would just be so typical of them.
No, Martin is completely right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfa Fan
And....
Please let me finish...
In the driver's briefing they were explicitly told to take the racing line regardless, because that's the consistent way to read traffic. It's a similar principle in oval racing.
Rocky comes steaming through on the inside flashing the stupid HIDs. Typical Audi driver thinking they own the road! :D
The Audi skates across the gravel because prototypes have huge flat floor.Quote:
Originally Posted by big_sw2000
The gravel trap is cambered and then there is a few metres which isn't. You can tell because the Ferrari's front wheels were lifted when stationary. Hence the Audi seemingly going airborne for a split second.
Massive FAIL
(Relatively) trouble-free, I still think Audi can win, but of course anything goes wrong & they lose time there's 3 Peugeots waiting to pounce. Still, hard to count Audi out of this one. If Audi doesn't win with their one remaining car, then likely we will see a Peugeot 1-2.Quote:
Originally Posted by barryfullalove
Yeah I think that's what I'm leaning towards. The extra speed of the Audi makes up for the fact that they are pitting more often. It now comes down to the reliability and staying on the island, and with nearly half the race left there's still a lot that could happen
Four cars are still on the lead lap too, there's still nothing in it.
I just hope it isn't eventually decided by safety cars.
Can't tell if your serious? If you are, then why should Audi withdraw the remaining car just because the other have suffered non-systematic accidents?Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
It's a valid question. I would'nt worry about P2 as much though. As much as I personally like the sleek coupes, open top cars have a great heritage.Quote:
Originally Posted by truefan72
I think that both are very relevant to the history. The fixed heads of the 250GTO and GT40 are as iconic as the open tops of the D-Type, 917 and even the R10. I'm not convinced that open tops would've made the accidents that much worse, just look at Webbers flip of last season.
Anyways the race is starting to swing in Peugeots favour. Audi have had a few slow stints while the others have used the soft tyre to up their pace. Daylight will bring nee challenges though.