We are booked in the McRae standQuote:
Originally Posted by MSP AU
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We are booked in the McRae standQuote:
Originally Posted by MSP AU
Sorry to say but for a Country that is in the **** right now, holding a great rally over the weekend and still manage to pull in the people with FREE access to stages day and night, FREE entry to the service areas as well as printing 30,000 copies of the Rally Program and giving them out for FREE - Greece did a great job!!! Rally Australia is a joke charging over AU$100 for a full package ticket plus paying, guessing over $12 for a Program and not having as a country any financial issues be fair to Greece who are in a crisis! I would rather pay for things in Greece then in Aust. It's pathetic. It's was fine in NZ a few years ago... $75 for Gold Passes per person but ended up getting team passes... But still. Shame on Rally Australia. I find it silly.
Greece looks like an awesome rally from what I have seen and read. Just on the pricing, isn't the Greece way how you end up in so much debt by not covering costs? lol. The Australian rally defiently has to attempt to cover costs not that it will because its sponsored by events NSW which is the NSW government. By being so high you think they might pirce some people out of the market, they would rather go watch V8's or something
Don't start me - RallyGB is the same. The people involved think the WRC is a bigger sport than it actually is. It's a minority sport - charge minority sport prices!!Quote:
Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1
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Agree. They would study a 40€ package: Pass+Spectators areas on SS+Service park. Would be fine, isn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
Yes, Australia is EXPENSIVE for most things! Rallying is tiny here, so spectator passes are always going to come at a premium. I have booked a helicopter for the Saturday only, and will be doing my best to offer a few options to fly into the best locations. $8K plus makes the $175 enthusiast pass cheap in comparison. But with only one chance to see WRC in my area, I'm not leaving anything to chance. I was locked into stage for a full day in 2009, only to see three cars all day!
Anyone interested in this option, please send me a PM.
Rally Australia has added some options to ticketing, now you can purchase a super pass/enthusiast pass and add the Talarm Hall and Plum Pudding spectator points to your ticket. I'm off to take the photos of the spectator points tomorrow, two days on the course to complete it. Let me know if anyone is interested in seeing an particular points of interest? I plan to put together a collection of images from each point, and cover the super special stage also. https://bitly.com/RA_2011_Tickets
prices at all sporting events these days seem to be on the rise, glad that i'm on the scutineering team again this year.
nice to be able to get up close and personal with the cars at post event sealing etc.
we also have to enter the stages at non speccy points to observe compliance with the rules ,nice perk.
am looking forward to it
so if any of you forum guys are coming to the event ,come and say hi as i will be in the service park running the observers while the cars are in.
cheers
pete
I will start a new thread, as I have plenty of information to share now that the spectator diagrams and time table has been published. A new version of rally guide went online today, which contains full running schedule with times and distances. It can be found in this document http://bit.ly/RA_Supplementary_Regulations_2011
After driving all of the stages once again, the roads are in top condition and any damage to the road surface is under repair or has been recently repaired. Some of the best rally roads are being graded and bought up to even higher standard which is good to see. I have photos of all spectator areas to share, but the clearing of low vegetation still hasn't taken place.
The enthusiast locations have been fairly restricted and I can no longer recommend them, with the exception of the PLUM PUDDING enthusiast location. The GLENREAGH and several of the general ticketed areas are actually great viewing.
So now that I've spent the money on enthusiast. Can I go to general viewing spots as well? Why di they make it so confusing!!
I have asked Ticketek and they say no, so I have asked Rally Australia to confirm. The ticketing has to be the most confusing aspect of the rally, and you currently cannot purchase certain tickets without first buying an enthusiast pass. The thinking behind this is that they can control the number of people who turn up to a single spectating venue but it appears to be half thought out. In 2009 a lot of people (by our standards) arrived at one of the major spectating areas, which caused some delays.
It's very frustrating for someone who is trying to make suggestions on which areas to visit. As they have made the ticketing confusing, limiting what you can see which makes tickets appear expensive. Some of the enthusiast locations have been set out with far too limited viewing, either for safety reasons or property owners not allowing spectators into their property.
The rally stages are excellent, but the ticketing is taking away from the event. If this was europe or even New Zealand then people would be very happy too visit and spread out along the stages. We have become a bit of a nanny state unfortunately. But a few of the major spectating areas have top viewing thankfully.
That's pretty poor. What about shakedown? Thats whereypu see more than anything
I bought an enthusiast ticket, and now I am a little annoyed they have limited the locations even more. Really wanted to go to Plum Pudding, but now I can't as the ticket I originally purchased no longer includes this.
Stupid move by Ticketek to release tickets, and then later on restrict the already purchased tickets even further.
This just makes RallyNZ so much more appealing and just better.. you either buy a gold pass for the entire event, or individual day tickets. No confusing people by offering hundreds of different ticket options. When I came over in 2009 for Rally Aus, I thought the ticketing as a bit stupid however this year it is just insanity. In 09 you could pick an 'additional' spectator point, which in my opnion was actually quite good. You could see the cars for a good while and there was decent room. Now they're limiting which areas you can go to?? This is a rally... not a concert!
Yeah NZ is amazing, drinking at the casino while watching the WRC boys check into park ferme is a highlight. Tickets should be one day or whole event. Far out they stuff things up!! Can we purchase additional tickets to plum pudding?
I'm only a maybe on competing now. Have had to pull the pin on Rally SA due to illness. Hopefully I'll be ok to run.
Ray
Regarding spectating, is it possible to spectate anywhere else apart from spectator zones? The prices are ridiculous and as a student there is no way I am prepared to pay that much when I add on ferry (coming from Tasmania), accommodation, petrol and food expenses (then memrobilia).
Yeah I'd say you'd get in trouble if they caught you. Could always go to a finish control and try and get in. There's not one spectator point on the power stage, tv coverage is going to look like no spectators at the whole rally.
Just waiting for Rally Australia to check over my work for accuracy before posting. Sorry for the delay...
It's not cheap, but you could be selective with you ticket rather than buying a super pass. I will list the best sites, and you could just make the purchases of those tickets for minimum cost.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mitch555
In regard to viewing without a ticket, not recommended. The rally is held in forestry areas and some shire roads on Friday and Sunday, and the access roads will most likely be monitored. On saturday the event is held entirely on shire roads, and trespassing on private properties would reflect badly on the event. The rally is lucky to be using these roads, and upsetting locals by wandering into their properties is likely to get you in trouble but more importantly, it would make it hard to run the event again in these areas. The main spectator point on the saturday is really great viewing, with a clear view of them for some distance.
If your wanting to walk in at a finish, then volunteering on the event may give you some opportunity to do so. Especially the stages held in the forestry areas, as the day/s you aren't assisting you will be dressed in officials uniform. In 2009 they did allow some people to walk into stage from the finish control, all depends on who you get on the day. Having a spectator pass, wearing officials clothing, and acting politely can go a long way. But I would hate to rely on not buying a ticket and expecting to see much at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by 6789
Such a shame to see no spectating on power stage, this is something that has me lost for words...
Hope to see you at coffs Ray, take care.Quote:
Originally Posted by raybak
nigel
Nothing concrete on shakedown as yet...Quote:
Originally Posted by 6789
Wait to see my recommendations, and then see what ticketek can do about changing your ticket. They have made changes to their menu when purchasing tickets, so I don't see any reason why you cannot argue for a change or refund.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dingardo
Good point about NZ, it rocks as an event and the relaxed officials make for an awesome experience. The open stages make spectating easy too, as you see the cars from a long way away. Rally Australia has some good spectating, it's just the ticketing that is screwing it up at the moment.
Cheers mate I'll wait with interest. Though having registered spectator points does heaps for risk assessment, it is going to be lame on TV when most of the time you will see no fans about. Looks like it's going to be hard pressed to top WA and NZ spectator wise. At least my accommodation overlooks the super special ;) I might as well chat to Rally Australia about doing a road closure if they've still got spots left.Quote:
Originally Posted by MSP AU
Hey Mitch, what accomodation is that? I'm still to book mine, just been trying to find some decent places.
Hey Dingardo,
I'm actually not sure as I'm heading up with a rally team who booked the accommodation, buts I know it's a house :P. At this current time, google, google maps, wotif are probably your best friends. Sawtell, Nambucca Heads and Woolgoolga are other decent sized towns around where the rally is. Nambucca Heads is only near day 2, whilst Woolgoolga is closer to day 1 & 3.
Check the rally guide out as well - http://www.rallyaustralia.com/wp-con...ly-Guide-1.pdf
If you get really desperate try Bellingen. Checkou the Rally Australia fb page, there was a place in Coffs with vacancies still. We booked our accom as soon as the dateswere announced. Full off peak prices :) . MSP_AU has been more helpful than officials. Thanks mate!
Thanks ;) Just waiting to hear back after sending my spectator review off last week and then I will post in a new thread. Hoping they are delaying while they add a spectator point to the power stage for me to review..haha I can only dream.Quote:
Originally Posted by 6789
I need accomm in Coffs Harbour....
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I have spoken with the people organising this accommodation, and they have gone to great effort to plan around spectators needs. Here is a useful link for finding accommodation WORLD RALLY CHAMPIONSHIP COFFS COAST OFFICIAL VISITOR INFORMATION
The Rotary Club of Sawtell Inc. Camp Site 2011
CAMP SITE FEE’S
Tent Sites: These are cabin style two man tents, you can stand up in
them, with single beds, mattress, floor matting and a 12 volt
light.
Price: $45-00 per person twin share, per night.
$95-00 single per night
Open camp site: 4mtrs.x 4mtrs. Grassed surface, flat football sports
ground
Price: $25-00 per person twin share. Maximum two persons per site
Same price for singles per site
Total Camp site accommodation capped at 1000 people
For Information: Bob Carle 66 533412 or 0411 727255
Looks like they have done a good job!
Here is the WRC Australia Fans Spectating Guide, https://bitly.com/wrc_australia_fans_spectator_guide
I will add a thread with images and more information closer to the event. Packing for a rally in South Australia today!
Nice work there with heaps of info, cheers!
But man they have stuffed up the ticketing big time!!! And the price!! Why can't they just have a "GoldPass" like new zealand that lets you go everywhere??? and I might add NZ was only $95NZ. ($75AU)
I'm still not sure if I'm going or just wait and go to NZ next year? After my last Rally Australia (2009) which was a complete joke I'm a bit hesitant.
Yes, ticketing is about as far from ideal as you could get. But don't let that stop you coming to a beautiful part of the world to see an all new event. The stages are top quality, and spectating is far improved on 2009.
Not sure why the price is so high? Cost of putting on a new event without a big naming sponsor, smaller crowds expected? I will be in NZ, but I wouldn't miss this event for anything.
Interested to hear your complaints with 2009. Most people who have given me feedback following my 2009 guide indicated a lack of quality spectating and stupidly slow and long transports. Throw in the whole tension around the event from the small minority and it wasn't the best atmosphere to enjoy the sport. I bought tickets yet only attended the sss in town. It was in my local area, so attending privates properties along the route was common.
Try this for some more information and photos. https://bitly.com/MSP_WRC_AUSTRALIA_FANS_GUIDE
Nigel, Any word on location of Shakedown?
Just back from a week away at a rally, so haven't had much time to look into the event. No exact location provided as yet, just listed as close to Coffs. Times for shakedown in the rally supp regs.Quote:
Originally Posted by 6789
Putting together a word press site for the WRC Australia Fans Spectator Guide now.
Atko has just tweeted time has run out to organise machinery for this year's Rally Aus.
Who is driving the zero car ?
Honestly, give Rally Aus a miss and definatly do an go to Rally NZ worth every penny as a spectator! Even better then Perth in the old days and if everyone is complaining about this year, prices and spectator points! I've heard you won't be able to leave the stages during the day I say screw it. I'm still going as I'll be working ;) (photographing)Quote:
Originally Posted by Datto1600
So lucky Gigi.. Wish I had a pass! On Saturday we're going to a mates who lives on a stage. So that's the highlight of the weekend. I'll be telling everyone I see to go to NZ and a round in Europe too if possible.