No, it is your opinion that they were incompetent. There are others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garry Walker
And does the fact of me having a quarter of the income of someone earning four times as much as me make me incompetent?
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No, it is your opinion that they were incompetent. There are others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garry Walker
And does the fact of me having a quarter of the income of someone earning four times as much as me make me incompetent?
you know I can't quite put my finger, but there is something about that HRT car that I like and feel will be more than competitive in a very short time. If they cans sort out their finances ( or bring in a new owner) I boldly predict that that particular car will be better than Virgin and nipping at the heals of Lotus by mid season, and actually fairly competitive by the end of the season. You heard it here first !
Sell the damn thing .
I wonder if there's any point in trying to keep the initials for continuity .
Heavy Racing Team sounds too slow .
Hip Racing Team sounds too beat .
Hearty Racing Team sounds to fat .
OK , it's gotta be Heluva Racing Team , or they change the name entirely .
They've got to get rid of the name Hispania before Spain , or be lynched on arrival .
So if you have your way and Jacques buys it, they could call it Hasbeen Racing Team :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Bagwan
Hee hee . Good one , Davy . You're on it today .Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave B
You know I wouldn't care if they called it the Holycrap Racing Team , if Jacques was involved , though .
Firstly, if you earn a quarter of someones income, you dont have to specify that the other person earns 4 times as much as you do.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
When you are dealing in such a highly competetive field as F1, then yes, it does make you incompetent. Hell, if you work for a company and other people are bringing in 4 times as much money for the Company, yet doing the same job, do you think you will be there for a long time? Of course not, you just cant cut it. And you will get dumped. For a good reason too.
HRT, if they qualify for even one race this year, will never beat even the slowest of the other teams (unless some extraordinary events happen to cause it, like an engine failure for someone).Quote:
Originally Posted by truefan72
Given that the HRT was a couple of seconds off 107% after what were really shakedown laps, its fair to say that the cars would be quicker given a few practice sessions merely through setting them up properly, quick enough to qualify.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garry Walker
I think the HRTs will be troubling Virgin this season unless the latter pull their fingers out and get their house in order. Of all the new teams I find Virgin the most disappointing. They have the funding and resources but are going nowhere.
The "no wind tunnel" idea may not be working out as well as they hoped.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylan H
They were way too close to Virgin and even Lotus in what was basically a shakedown of the car, that's not rubbish.Quote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
that is what I'm saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by DexDexter
If Ferrari or Mclaren, RBR or reanualt were running shakedown laps in Melbourne. I doubt they would make it out of Q1
...well Hamilton would wrestle the car to Q2, maybe
To me HRT seem to have more potential than Virgin and once they get going, they will be right there.
I'm actually amazed Virgin are so slow. I thought they'd doubled their computing power - plus last year's car wasn't bad for a first attempt. I expected them to be floating around near the midfield.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylan H
I had a feeling that HRT car would become useful at some point, the first day of proper running with their new front wing and Karthikeyan dipped below the 107% bracket, once Liuzzi gets properly underway, I wont be suprised if both Hispania's made the grid
And I think you're being a little mean on Virgin at the moment, Glock was the quicker of those 6 plus didnt Virgin say that the car has a lot more room for development with the first major upgrade coming for the beginning of the European season? I wont judge them until then.
As for Lotus, well that T128 has some potential, I have a feeling that when they get their first car upgrade, they could overtake Buemi, Alguersuari and possibly get on the coat-tails of the so far disappointing Force India's. They just need to iron out those unreliability problems
Roughly if the fastest time in Q1, was around 1:37.000 then 107% is about 6.80.
So a realistic target for all of the back markers.
they survived today, if I am not mistaken. Good job.
They did.
I like.
Yes, as expected, HRT should have a fair few seconds in the pocket if only they can actually do some setup work and put the 2011 package together. Next steps will be harder, but they could match Virgin soon unless the Wirth team finds some good solutions for significant improvements.
I am naturally very dissapointed that HTR made it to the race.
Why? They were fast enough within the rules; therefore, they, or anybody else in that situation, should be allowed to race. I don't see what's hard to grasp about that, whether or not one thinks that the three new teams are worthwhile additions to the grid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garry Walker
Reading comprehension, do you know what that is?Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
Nowhere did I state that they should not be allowed to race, I am just dissapointed that they made it to the race. Not that hard to understand.
I would rather prefer HTR and Virgin off the grid and replaced by a more competent team, as it is now, they add nothing.
Ideally, competitive teams throughout is what we want. But I still think HRT and Virgin add their own variables to the racing so hope they stay for as long as they financially can.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garry Walker
Er... all I did was disagree with your opinion. I don't disagree with their adding nothing. But I think your view is unnecessarily aggressive in its expression.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garry Walker
It's not that simple though is it? There is nobody ready to take their place, the FIA refused to accept a 13th team in for this year on those grounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garry Walker
Even though Virgin have been a little disappointing so far this year I still find their performance not bad considering they are not "cheating" like the other two by buying the back end of someone else's car.
NO, they're not cheating, they're using a bulk gearbox instead. With that, you're never going to be succesful.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Okay, then I might have misunderstood you.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
As for being agressive, I dont think I was being that at all.
Then banish them from F1 for showing utter incompetence.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
2 was to fix this
1 kit cars (not customer cars) buy parts from other teams with a 33% limit from one team
Ferrari tub red bull front and rear wing renault engine williams gearbox
2 teams running a 3rd car (young drivers and one off drivers)
if a driver wins a gp2 race reward him with a one off 3rd car drive at the next f1 race weekend
Credit where it's due: both Hispanias faster than the Virgins in FP2 despite Liuzzi only getting in one flying lap.
Nothing new there... they've already beat them last year... now they're after the slower lotus' :p :
Don't think that will happen TBH, the TL's look like they'll break into the midfield come Spain.Quote:
Originally Posted by eu
If HRT managed to stay ahead of Virgin then that for them should represent success.
To be fair, Virgin were always faster last season, but finished behind on count back results. HRT now appear to be ahead on pace - it's a bit step for them.
It's pretty evident that Virgin needs to get the car into a wind tunnel as soon as possible. I mean, a hastily built HRT is quicker than Virgin in its second race with zero testing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sonic
Yeah, its a pretty poor show by Virgin. It's a shame really - I hoped they'd succeed - but their performance (or lack thereof) is very disappointing.
The one thing I love about Indycar that I wish F1 would allow is the one-off or part season drives. I know many will argue it would dilute the F1 brand, but I think it would add a great deal of extra spice. Sure there are logistical and brand reasons why it would never happen, but it would be fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by thunderbolt