On an unrelated note, HRT have hired a Hollywood designer to freshen up their image: http://www.autosport.com/news/grapevine.php/id/89034
Might as well get him to design the car while he's at it... :rolleyes:
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On an unrelated note, HRT have hired a Hollywood designer to freshen up their image: http://www.autosport.com/news/grapevine.php/id/89034
Might as well get him to design the car while he's at it... :rolleyes:
Our Canadian "smoke Nazis" are so power addled that they would and have, actually taken a colour spectrometer to a race cars paint finish. 2004 Forsythe Champ Car team in Toronto. They were actually at the point of impounding the cars and trailers before saner heads prevailed. The team had been previously sponsored by Players. Lotus/Renault had better make sure they use the "right" shade of black and gold! Morons ... the lot of them!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
That's friggin stupid then. No one has a trademark on colors nor on colors aassociations.
I agree with you. As a former smoker I barely remember JPS cigarettes. I only had an incontrolable passion for my red pack :)
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If you were British American Tobacco, would it not make sense to buy a peppercorn share in a certain battery company, so that you could put "battery sponsorship" on F1 cars?
If I recall correctly, didn't Colin McRae drive a Subaru WRC car sponsored by "batteries"? Hint hint hint. :D
Deffo they should a dark black. The lght black is too grey for my liking..... :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Flatsixrules
But, F1 has always had the last say on paint schemes regardless who the sponsor is.
Yes, that guy Pollock (apt name if you ask me) learned that the hard way......Quote:
Originally Posted by John Cummins
Not true. Ferrari claims to have trademarked their shade of red. In a non-racing note, chocolate makers Cadburys(?) is the owner of color purple in New Zealand.Quote:
Originally Posted by mstillhere
And you thought it couldn't get more ridiculous than that!
Dark blue is like a Satan colour, thanks to Subaru, Ligier, Prost et al. This is why you can't associate colours with anything, they are just sodding colours. Anyone who argues otherwise is... well, rather simple. There, I said it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollo
OK then. From now on , yellow siena in MINE!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Yuri Laszlo
How bizarre that a simple colour scheme could be considered an issue. Having said that, to me Lotus colours are green and gold and not colours that have only previously been used due a sponsor association.
I think the best nod to Lotus' heritage (this applies to "Lotus"-Renault and Team Lotus) would be to find a sponsor, any sponsor, willing to pay large money to paint the car in their colours. Team Gunston in SA aside they pioneered the whole concept.
Other than that... Tobacco sponsorship tends to make you want to switch brand - not start smoking.
Trademarks such as this depend on context. So I Ferrari would be able to stop someone making sporty cars or racing cars in their colour red. Similarly Cadbury's would be able to stop someone selling food products under that colour. However they wouldn't be able to enforce a trademark for something completely unrelated, such as painting your front door that colour.
While that is true, I still think the F1 is better without tobacco sponsors, it always made me feel slightly uneasy (only slightly!) as to where the money for my favourite sport was coming from.Quote:
Originally Posted by V12
I think there is a difference though.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
Philip Morris have consistently tried to work around the tobacco ban in F1 and the bar code was another example of that. They have (I think) recently renewed their deal with Ferrari and their clear aim is to promote the Marlboro brand, despite the ban.
Renault/Lotus's use of black & gold does not involve a sponsorship deal. It is purely an historical nod to a colour scheme. It's marketing only in the sense that an existing team are trying to associate themselves with Team Lotus, just as Tony Fernandes has done with a different colour scheme.