Lewis Hamilton increasingly likely the 2010 champion ?

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Originally Posted by jens

But I suspect Alonso and especially Ferrari in WCC are gradually starting to drop out of the game. Montreal was also supposedly among their stronger circuits and they don't leave an impression of making huge gains in the near future.

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I don't think so. He's been saying for some time now that he hopes to win in Valencia, when they will have improvements to the car. It seems that what Alonso is doing is making sure he finishes as many races as possible while they get the car improved. He was a little unlucky in Canada, but he was also quite careful not to have a DNF. It looks like he's adpoting a "Tour De France" strategy: Sprinting to a win at key moments, and the rest of the time trying to stay with the pack.

What has helped Alonso and Ferrari has been that there have been a lot of different winners, but if one driver starts winning again and again this strategy isn't going to work, so Valencia is a big race for Ferrari.

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Originally Posted by Mia 01

Alonso will snatch the WCC.

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He's going to have to do far better than 2007 if he wants to regain that title again. ;) :D

for Alonso the same old mclaren rivalary is unfolding, for his worse time Lewis is more matuared and experienced driver who wont give a toss about mistakes seen before, therefore Lewis to the champonship.

for Bunsen the tyre hugger..enough said he is atleast half a second slower per lap than Lewis and He cannot materialise what Lewis can do in a normal day, therefore its fair to say, Lewis beat Alonso in his first year at mclaren and he will do the same for button as well.. watchout !

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Originally Posted by race_director

u an associate of james allen? only james goes gaga over lewis

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no i am not an associate of james allen and you sounds like a brother to bbc's andrew benson who said 'famously' Jenson button is the modern Alain prost without saying anything good about his british counter part who actually displayed driving excellence all through the weekend.. I feel very sorry to think about how Alain Prost would make of that.. awkard f***kin idiot Andrew benson(&hedges)

back to your reply, Lewis to win the 2010 championship has got a little closer, i agree wit you many here that season is long, as i said if it doesnt happen to be the case for Lewis then surely its Lewis who is going to give that ''run for the money'' push to other potentials winners could be webber,vettel,alonso or jenson..

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Originally Posted by Dave Brockman

Mind you, his chances have just improved somewhat :D

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Dave rocks with some commonsense here .. anyone else please ? LoL

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Originally Posted by fandango

I don't think so. He's been saying for some time now that he hopes to win in Valencia, when they will have improvements to the car. It seems that what Alonso is doing is making sure he finishes as many races as possible while they get the car improved. He was a little unlucky in Canada, but he was also quite careful not to have a DNF. It looks like he's adpoting a "Tour De France" strategy: Sprinting to a win at key moments, and the rest of the time trying to stay with the pack.

What has helped Alonso and Ferrari has been that there have been a lot of different winners, but if one driver starts winning again and again this strategy isn't going to work, so Valencia is a big race for Ferrari.

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Neverthless I like the way Alonso stream behind racers infront of him the world champion seems to be sleeping behind the wheel times, loses the racing line and has become Mr.wobble this season easily hands out his hard earned positions to clever oppurtunists like Jenson Button... he sticks Lewis once and Lewis stiks him back twice as usual.

once over taken the ferrari seems to quickly fallback..is that some kind of problem with that car or what?

Massa is way back and he is is not there to help alonso at any point, i think that way alonso is little handicapped & carrying the ferari expectations on his own..its really bad to see.. why the heck massa got contract extentions at ferrari..what is the point..

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Originally Posted by Mark

Absolutely! Red Bull had a big advantage in the early season but they sqandered it! They are about equal now I think.

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spot on 101% matey

Redbull has two drivers whom one whom adamant the level you cant even imagine,wouldnt yield at any cost despite slow like bullcart & the other is a learner driver, too selfish and ambitious thinking he is a 5 times world champion already ,thinks its pretty fine to win races by cutting across as well as wheelbanging with rest of the drivers and a breakdown sickie!!!

both arent going to win chanmpionship this year.

Hamilton has so far been clearly the best driver of the season. So going at current form he would deserve it.

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Originally Posted by rohanweb

for Alonso the same old mclaren rivalary is unfolding, for his worse time Lewis is more matuared and experienced driver who wont give a toss about mistakes seen before, therefore Lewis to the champonship.

for Bunsen the tyre hugger..enough said he is atleast half a second slower per lap than Lewis and He cannot materialise what Lewis can do in a normal day, therefore its fair to say, Lewis beat Alonso in his first year at mclaren and he will do the same for button as well.. watchout !

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I find this post really difficult to comprehend. But, in relation to the bold writing, how can you say Lewis is more experienced than Alonso? Alonso began racing in F1 in 2001, Lewis in 2007...Alonso won 2 titles, Lewis 1...Alonso won 22 races, Lewis 13...etc etc

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And in relation to Button, I don't think that's a fair comment. Hamilton has shown that he's been quicker a lot of the time, but Button has been quietly gathering up the points. With tyres becoming all the more intriguing with relation to compounds and wear etc, Button's ability to conserve tyres and keep decent race pace may prove a worthy asset in the championship hunt. If it's down to raw pace and reliability, then Hamilton would probably have this sown up. But F1 is never that black and white and, with so many variables, it's really unfair to discount Button and Webber as strong championship challengers. Particularly considering Button's early form and his battle with Hamilton in Turkey. And considering how Webber has raised his game in the last few rounds.

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Originally Posted by 52Paddy

I find this post really difficult to comprehend. But, in relation to the bold writing, how can you say Lewis is more experienced than Alonso? Alonso began racing in F1 in 2001, Lewis in 2007...Alonso won 2 titles, Lewis 1...Alonso won 22 races, Lewis 13...etc etc

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And in relation to Button, I don't think that's a fair comment. Hamilton has shown that he's been quicker a lot of the time, but Button has been quietly gathering up the points. With tyres becoming all the more intriguing with relation to compounds and wear etc, Button's ability to conserve tyres and keep decent race pace may prove a worthy asset in the championship hunt. If it's down to raw pace and reliability, then Hamilton would probably have this sown up. But F1 is never that black and white and, with so many variables, it's really unfair to discount Button and Webber as strong championship challengers. Particularly considering Button's early form and his battle with Hamilton in Turkey. And considering how Webber has raised his game in the last few rounds.

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I liked your message Paddy1

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Originally Posted by 52Paddy

I find this post really difficult to comprehend. But, in relation to the bold writing, how can you say Lewis is more experienced than Alonso?.

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I think was was meant is that Lewis is now much more experienced and mature than 2007 which was his rookie year.

If the Lewis of 2010 went into the 2007 championship fight, he would win it, IMO.

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Originally Posted by Mark

I think was was meant is that Lewis is now much more experienced and mature than 2007 which was his rookie year.

If the Lewis of 2010 went into the 2007 championship fight, he would win it, IMO.

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If no Lewis went into the 2007 championship fight Alonso and McLaren would win it

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Originally Posted by eu

If no Lewis went into the 2007 championship fight Alonso and McLaren would win it

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Hmmm, if no Alonso in 2007 Lewis would have won it.....

Yep, remember that in 2007 if it weren't for him destroying his tyres in the Chinese Grand Prix, he would have been the champion then, not Raikkonen.

Would the 2010 Hamilton have listened to his team and stayed out on tyres that were finished.. I would hope he wouldn't.

I do think that 2009 when he had to fight for wins instead of being handed them, was a very good year for Hamilton. He emerged a much stronger driver as a result.

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Originally Posted by rohanweb

for Bunsen the tyre hugger..enough said he is atleast half a second slower per lap than Lewis and He cannot materialise what Lewis can do in a normal day, therefore its fair to say, Lewis beat Alonso in his first year at mclaren and he will do the same for button as well.. watchout !

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Being 2 seconds behind after 70 laps doesn't work out to half a second per lap.

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Hmmm, if no Alonso in 2007 Lewis would have won it.....

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Dream on :laugh:

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Originally Posted by eu

Dream on :laugh:

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Explain?

Onslo and Lewis ended up on the same points. If Onslo had not taken points away from Lewis - Bingo, title in the bag.

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Originally Posted by AndyL

Being 2 seconds behind after 70 laps doesn't work out to half a second per lap.

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In "Unofficial forum Rulebook" version seventy two, using logic like that means you are guilty of being a Jenson Fanboy and Lewis Hater :D

Facts are that Lewis drove a great race from starting in pole but Jenson started in 4th and drove his socks off to be right behind Lewis at the finish. Both were mighty on Sunday and I can't see how people can find fault with either driver.

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Explain?

Onslo and Lewis ended up on the same points. If Onslo had not taken points away from Lewis - Bingo, title in the bag.

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Now explain why you keep droning on about "Onslo"... have you found a loophole in the unwritten F1 Forum rulebook regarding silly names ? :dozey:

Coulda', woulda', shoulda', 2007 WDC Kimi.

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Originally Posted by Mark

Yep, remember that in 2007 if it weren't for him destroying his tyres in the Chinese Grand Prix, he would have been the champion

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And driving it into the gravel trap was just one in a series of chokes he finished the season with!

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Originally Posted by Donks

have you found a loophole in the unwritten F1 Forum rulebook regarding silly names ?

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No! I found it a long time ago and exercise it at every possible opportunity ;) :s mokin:

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Originally Posted by Tazio

No! I found it a long time ago and exercise it at every possible opportunity ;) :s mokin:

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whatever makes him feel witty ;)

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Originally Posted by donKey jote

whatever makes him feel witty ;)

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if it´s witty, it´s really subtle too because I don´t see where the witty part is :laugh:

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Explain?

Onslo and Lewis ended up on the same points. If Onslo had not taken points away from Lewis - Bingo, title in the bag.

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No. I have explained too many times my opinions regarding the 2007 season and McLaren impartiality in backing its 2 drivers. I think RD explained it pretty well after the Chinese GP. One got full suport to win the wdc and one got full support to lose the wdc. Ok, so I´ve ended up explaing it after all :laugh:

I feel witty, oh so witty, I feel witty and pretty and, errrrrrrrrr, ummmmmmm, happy? :laugh: (if you know how)

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Originally Posted by henners88

Valencia is another track which is suited to the Mclaren's and although its one of the more boring tracks in F1, it should be a good opportunity for another 1-2 for Lewis and Jenson. I think its the start of a shift in performance, and IMO Red Bull must be rueing the fact they didn't capitalise in the first 5 races. A more mature Lewis Hamilton know's there's plenty to play for.. :)

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THAT IS DAMN TRUE ..WELL SAID MATE!!!

however dont say valencia is a boring circuit,you dont wana ruin my trip to valencia in couple of weeks time

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Originally Posted by rohanweb

THAT IS DAMN TRUE ..WELL SAID MATE!!!

however dont say valencia is a boring circuit,you dont wana ruin my trip to valencia in couple of weeks time

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Should've picked a less boring track to go to then :p

It looks like it. Jenson and teamorders.

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Originally Posted by henners88

:laugh: Lame excuse Mia, maybe you can use this one instead?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zf40...layer_embedded
Maybe this is Jenson's car for the next race? :p

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:D :up:

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Originally Posted by henners88

If I had been Ron I would have sacked Alonso as soon as he tried to blackmail the team.

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If I had been Ron, I would have never hired the little #### to begin with. :D

Alonso jokes aside (and believe me, I've got millions of 'em! :p :) , Lewis does seem to have matured a good deal over the past three years. But I also have to compliment McLaren on the incredible job they've done in developing this year's car, to now be roughly on par with the Red Bulls. And though I'd never really been a fan of his, I also have to give big props to Button. That entire outfit really seems to be clicking. And no drama either. :up:

The way I see it, the outcome will depend on how McLaren can continue to manage the Bunsen + Lewis partnership. Lewis seems to be quicker normally, but when race strategy is involved in wet weather, Bunsen is the more capable of winning races.

Red Bull appears (to me anyway) to have shot themselves in the foot as I see this team as dysfunctional from the top down; I don't see anything settled between their drivers, and having Mark race Fettel is anything but smooth running. Maybe Horner should have signed Rubens to partner Fettel. :p : I can't see Mark accepting a fuel saving strategy in every race, can you? :D

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Originally Posted by Garry Walker

Hamilton has so far been clearly the best driver of the season. So going at current form he would deserve it.

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Difficult to evalute due to different cars, but I'd say that in terms of performance Kubica has been at least a match to Hamilton.

Jenson only three points down, making better use of the car.

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Originally Posted by Mia 01

Jenson only three points down, making better use of the car.

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wow, tell us how you really feel

when it comes to a decent F1 discussion, you are truly mia

Canada was never a Red Bull circuit. We knew that a month or two ago. The Bulls finishing 4th and 5th was a fairly reasonable outcome on a points perspective.

In Turkey the Bulls were leading the race. They had it all to lose.... and they did. The Maccas did not win that race, the bulls lost it. You could argue they fell to the pressure, and maybe they did, but at the end of the day The Maccas with all their straight line speed were losing to the Bulls in mechanical grip around corners.

So after two massive races for McLaren where the Bulls lost a race and the Maccas used some track advantage we are where we are.

Now to look at where we're going. The next 4 or 5 tracks massively suit the Red Bull car. Simple as that. They're mechanical grip, cornering circuits.... mostly.

That said, the Bulls have now got their F-Duct organised. If it's only half as good as the Maccas one then that will be more than enough to continue their advantage.

I think we're all being glassy eyed about the last two races but when you really look at it, what did McLaren win? Bulls lost one race and the Maccas won another at a circuit we all knew their car suited.

For mine the Maccas are still massively on the backfoot for this championship and the bulls well ahead.

What McLaren do have over Red Bull however is a much better team harmony. It seems that they are more balanced in driver respect, more intelligent in strategy and more professional as a whole. While Red Bull will cut Marks throat to deliver Vettel a podium McLaren let their two drivers go head to head for the win.

We all know what happened last time a team tried to favour their driver over the line.... Kimi won a championship!

This season has a longggggggggg way to go yet. I think we all too quickly forget the impact 25 points has this year over 10 last year.

Excuse me Gents I wanted to post this on the Chanhdok Fred link.
But because of a certain someone's myopia (that's a euphemism) It was closed.
However since he/she is equally culpable here I'll just leave it.

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His view is shared by Lewis Hamilton and Jenson Button, who delivered a one-two for McLaren in both the last two races, in Turkey
and in Canada. "Ferrari could be very strong here, " said Hamilton.

"Fernando was very quick in Montreal and was third despite things not working out for him in traffic. He will be a big danger."

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http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...s-up-challenge

After the last race I have an increasing feeling that Hamilton and Vettel will decide the WDC this season.

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Originally Posted by Mia 01

Jenson only three points down, making better use of the car.

The ruthless, arrogant (monkey at the back) style works only to a degree.

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I am not surprised that above comments comes from a rude racist citizen of sweden the country wich assisted Hitler during WW2.

for your information the 'Monkey' is rather ruthless in terms kicking ass of every fellow driver in F1 and marching to the championship ,

the 'monkey' in its own class.. also has really big balls to go half a second also per lap quicker than phoney chimps..and I have a serious question how the hell those chimps making the FULL use of the car.

there is nothing you can do about it rather than wait for a bad day.

if you still have issue with it then you can have a tissue !

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Originally Posted by rohanweb

that comes from a rude racist citizen of weden whom assisted Hitler during WW2.

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Your ignorance of WW2 history is astounding....

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Originally Posted by jens

After the last race I have an increasing feeling that Hamilton and Vettel will decide the WDC this season.

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but Hamilton is consistant and fastest.. finishing well every time..probably will be in podium for the rest of the races..
Vettel is a driver whom not yet won a championship and 'thinks' he is a 5 times worldchampion makes too many mistakes and the setup of his car is in big question time after every race..

while sir bunsen finishing behind hamilton for the last number of races, a& dr alonso busy thinking about hamilton..I put my money on Lewis Hamilton to better this year by far.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Your ignorance of WW2 history is astounding....

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actually the swedish were indeed help thier neighhbour adolf hitler during the war.. that is well confirmed even with swedish colleagues.. there looks so cool but from someone who has spent time in sweden let me tell you my friend there is something you might not have read in the books from south africa.