Btw, are there any maps available (to find your way to the stages)?
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Btw, are there any maps available (to find your way to the stages)?
when you arrive buy the VM magazine, there is all you need.Quote:
Originally Posted by maxter
are the info in the magazine in english as well?
yes, some of it is, like how to get to the stages is.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
When RG1 was published, they also published overview maps that you take a look at from this pdf link. That gives you an idea where the stages are.Quote:
Originally Posted by maxter
But like Tomi said, VM's spectators' guide is the one to buy once you arrive in Finland. That blue-covered magazine has it all concerning information how to get to the stages, where to park and it also shows way to spectators' points if you want to use them. On previous years it have had one page for each stage with stage map and 50/50 Finnish and English text. Most of the interviews and other texts on the magazine are in Finnish, but all the useful info is in English as well. The format of the spectators' guide have remained the same for many years and I think there is some pressure to change it, but I doubt it.
Are you N.O.T. coming perhaps?
Awesome, thank you. :)
It's going to be a busy friday and saturday this year... God for bid I have my gps with me, it never goes wrong :p :
I'll do my best to make sure it won't work...I have not intention to get lost again, and miss a stage :mad: :p :Quote:
Originally Posted by A.F.F.
Actually you didn't miss a stage. You just got to see the same stage again ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by pino
The problem I find with GPS is that if you want to go to a specific point on a stage, I find that more often than not it will want me to drive along a stage or across it at some point to get there, which means that it is not very useful, you have to put in your own via point away from the stage to get around it :s
Do it old school people. One drives and the person sitting on the next seat reads a map. Works kind of like a GPS. Giving instructions and stuff ;)
OK that was a joke. No harm meant. But think how easy it nowadays that the biggest nuisance is to set up waypoints before driving/walking to the desired corner on the stage. And with the modern GPS phones you can check your location when walking on a stage.
Presuming of course that you have someone to read a map for you, otherwise you have to stop and check it yourself ;)
While visiting rallies I like to do it with my children..
GPS in connected with laptop and the route is marked on the map. So, I usually drive while I read map and thanks to the bigger screen that laptop has.. it is quite comfortable:-) Usually when I take someone to read my map they are always late to call junctions etc.
Maybe it is so, because I work with the maps every day and last time we drove to Portugal I was reading the map during the whole 4200km and we didn't got lost not a single time :-)
Edit: And I forgot the write the reason why I wrote it. There was quite a big accident in Latvia a few years ago when one spectator decided to stop for a moment to check the map and there was Estonian rally driver Popov with his evo 6 behind him and could not see the car stopping due to the dust and... Bang!! It was quite a big accident. I dont remember anyone getting hurt but the rally was over for Evo6 and Popov.
So, be careful while stopping.
What can we expect in terms of entries??
WRC
Citroen
Loeb
Sordo
Ogier
Raikkonen
P. Solberg.
Ford
Hirvonen
Latvala
H. Solberg
Wilson
Subaru
Ostberg
SWRC
SKODA
Sandell
Andersson
Please fill in :D
WRC
1. Loeb C4WRC
2. Sordo C4WRC
3. Hirvonen Focus WRC
4. Latvala Focus WRC
5. Wilson Focus WRC
6. Räikkönen C4WRC
7. Ogier C4WRC
8. Solberg P C4WRC
9. Ostberg Subaru WRC
10. Qassimi Focus WRC
SWRC
1. Tuohino Ford
2. Prokop Ford
3. Al Attyah Ford
4. Sandell Skoda
5. Kocziusko Ford
6. Llovera A. Skoda
7. Ketomaa, J. Ford
8. Andersson Skoda
PWRC
1. Semerad, M Mitsu
2. Baldoni Subaru
3. Frisiero Mitsu
4. Nobre, P.Mitsu
5. Muhonen, R. Mitsu
6. Wang Rui Mitsu
7. Gröndal, A. Subaru
8. Flodin Subaru
9. Pavlides, S Subaru
10. Jourdain, M. Mitsu
11. Tänak Mitsu
12. Paddon Mitsu
13. Raschi Mitsu
14. Horsey Mitsu
15. Georgiou, N Mitsu
Other:
1. Kresta Mitsu
2. Hänninen Skoda?
3. Kaur, E. Subaru????
And a lot of others finnish Gr N drivers :-)
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Originally Posted by bluuford
:up:
Any more privateers in WRC??
And what about Kankkunen ;)
Yes and yes :)Quote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
We should add in the list Jaakko Tapper with a Seat Leon 2.0TDi FR and maybe Michael Honda (CZ-Citroen C2 S1600) and Radik Shaymiev (RUS-Peugeot 207 S2000).
Michael Honda? Maybe, but I don't see it very likely. If he drives than for sure not with C2 S1600.
He is entered with C2 S1600 for rally Estonia. http://autosport.ee/rallyreg/?page=2...=80&lang_id=2& Maybe testing for Finland? or just having fun :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Mirek Fric [Cze
That's why I added him.... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
Aha, that's new to me and a bit surprising. Than it might be possible that he starts in NORF also. By the way he's Kresta's sponsor.
It should be also pointed out that the maximun number of entries is limited to 90. This is due to initeary which is quite tight at places.
There are some discounts for crews taking part to Finnish championship. Hopefully we'd see Salo, Lindroos, Katajamäki, Miettinen et al also in NORF.
And then there is going to be about 15 Fiesta. So those who drive some series are going to be about 60 drivers(WRC, SWRC, PWRC, FSTI)... Only 30 places for privateers... Not very much...
We should also add the FST drivers:
Al Shamsi
Al Jabri
Riedemann
Henriksson
....
Marko Kakko-Fiesta S2000
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Originally Posted by bluuford
Llovera in Skoda? He will not go Fiat?
Sorry, my mistake, copy paste you know;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ondra WRC
It seems like Lindroos is getting familiar to the car so it would be good to see him there, Miettinen again has had by far the best VIP in NORF i have been to sofar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
Grönholm? To much to hope for? :)
I'm sure Bosse will be there but just spectating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Koppomsbo
Considering the new (or rather "new") SSS, Laajavuori, they are planning some changes to the stage so it'd be a bit different from the previous years' shakedown. It should be 4,3 kms in lenght opposed to 3,76 kms it were when used as a shakedown.
Those of you who have visited Laajavuori shakedown or stage know the skiiing hill and the downhill car course. On this article (Finnish) they are speculating over the fact that the beginning of the stage would be half way up the skiing hill, then taking a turn to better known Laajavuori road. It'd be hard however to make that particular part of the skiing hill so hard that it could be used for the purpose as it is rather soft to begin with.
This year's shakedown will take place at Rannankyläntie in Muurame. It should resemble more NORF's stages for shakedown than Laajavuori used to: fast sections, yumps, fast corners, ...
Hartusvouri - would you think there´s any use going to watch the SD at NORF this year?
Of course the answer for any rallyfreak is yes, but anyway? :confused:
Jössös Kristi poiki!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
All the articles there are impössible te read, viiiiituuun! Nobody can read any of it!
Why do you guys write in Finnish anyway when you know nobody can read it?
Come on, honestly, you can tell me since we're friends, can you read that stuff? I know some people think they can speak it and some claim they understand it, but write and read---I don't think anybody does, they just fake it.
How come there's no linkit to Swedish language version, isn't that second language?
>>All the articles there are impössible te read,
>>Nobody can read any of it!
>>Why do you guys write in Finnish anyway when you know nobody
>>can read it?
Sorry but that is a link to a newspaper's web site (finnish)
>>Come on, honestly, you can tell me since we're friends,
>>can you read that stuff?
Most of the time... :p
>>I know some people think they can speak it and some claim
>>they understand it, but write and read---I don't think anybody does,
>>they just fake it.
Those guys are called politicians.. :D
>>How come there's no linkit to Swedish language version,
>>isn't that second language?
Only 8 % minority speaks swedish as their native language all other are forced (by law) to study it. Most of us are not very keen to use it any way.
:)
What are the options? Yes and Hell Yes? I don't know the road they're using for SD this year, but like said it should be more similar to proper NORF stage, so it sounds better than Laajavuori.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
But take mosquito repellents with you - they should come in armies this year :-)
Well I'm one of those who can only read Swedish (and German and French and a liiiiiiittle Engleski, too) and i want to read all the news you guys have, but can't!Quote:
Originally Posted by jiipee64
It's not fair!
(And I know what you mean that everybody is forced to study it but nobody wants to admit they can read or speak Swedish---but it would be nice to be able to read the ralli-news)
In central Finland there's no use for Swedish and thus no motivation to start studying it when you're 12 years old. Closer to coast I could understand studying it could have some better purpose, but... I guess you're still joking.Quote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
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Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
Naturligvis!
I don't get paid enough to act serious..
I do wish I could at least read more Finnsih than "maskinikevärri'' and Mäkinen saying ''Maj söspenders ver prökken on läst stage''.
I introduced America to F-cup and enough guys here watch it follow it and agitated so the US rules were bent to be like F-cup rules.
I am also ''öfficial giver of Finnish names'' since it is well known that a Finnish name is worth 0,7 sek-km or 1.1 sec-mile.
So, it would be nice I could read more Finnish than RUSSIAN, but RUSSIAN is EASIER! (even with their alphabet!!)
Yes, but we could have just stayed there instead of driving around for nothing. :p :Quote:
Originally Posted by A.F.F.
I think he wanted to show lake number 689.Quote:
Originally Posted by Juha