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9th October 2009, 16:36
Bezza

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Nuh uh. You're merely interpreting it in the way which you want to. In Australia for instance Paki is or at least was used as a non-derogatory term a lot in cricket coverage. Of course the Spitting Image song was meant to be directed at the govt of South Africa but it simply doesn't come across like that and isn't written like that. I'm more than happy to discuss this further because it's obvious that you're not bothering to perhaps put yourself in the shoes of a white South African who had nothing to do with Apartheid.

The song as as irresponsible and as offensive as the Islamic propaganda that seeks to paint all British as BNP types who hate anyone who's not white. If you can't see that......

Don't mention the BNP around BBB - he will go mental!

I personally am looking forward to seeing what Nick Griffin has to say on Question Time on 22nd October. It will be interesting see whether the BNP are really what they are made out to be. Nevertheless, the fact the BNP are even in the mainsteam is a product of Labour's appalling term in government, which will hopefully come to a conclusion in June 2009.
9th October 2009, 16:58
BeansBeansBeans

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Originally Posted by Bezza

Don't mention the BNP around BBB - he will go mental!

I personally am looking forward to seeing what Nick Griffin has to say on Question Time on 22nd October. It will be interesting see whether the BNP are really what they are made out to be. Nevertheless, the fact the BNP are even in the mainsteam is a product of Labour's appalling term in government, which will hopefully come to a conclusion in June 2009.

There's already a thread about Nick Griffin's appearance on question time.

I don't think it's fair to suggest that I go mental everytime the BNP is mentioned. I do however oppose everything they stand for.
9th October 2009, 17:13
harsha

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Nuh uh. You're merely interpreting it in the way which you want to. In Australia for instance Paki is or at least was used as a non-derogatory term a lot in cricket coverage. Of course the Spitting Image song was meant to be directed at the govt of South Africa but it simply doesn't come across like that and isn't written like that. I'm more than happy to discuss this further because it's obvious that you're not bothering to perhaps put yourself in the shoes of a white South African who had nothing to do with Apartheid.

The song as as irresponsible and as offensive as the Islamic propaganda that seeks to paint all British as BNP types who hate anyone who's not white. If you can't see that......

I don't think 'paki' in the true meaning means anything racist,ofcourse it has had later racist connotations....if anything it means pure in hindi/urdu....but no thanks,I'm no pakistani,I'm an Indian...and I would be insulted to be called a paki for that reason alone and not for anything else...
9th October 2009, 19:49
Daniel

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Originally Posted by harsha

I don't think 'paki' in the true meaning means anything racist,ofcourse it has had later racist connotations....if anything it means pure in hindi/urdu....but no thanks,I'm no pakistani,I'm an Indian...and I would be insulted to be called a paki for that reason alone and not for anything else...

I most certainly wouldn't want to call you a Paki either as I know it's offensive for an Indian person :) It's like calling a Scottish person English or vice versa. In Australia the useage of Paki is very much along the same lines as Pom or Sheepshagger when talking about a British person or a New Zealander :p It's simply an identifier and not an insult.

Harsha, what would you feel about someone blacking up somewhat and putting on an Indian accent as long as it was done for comedy and not to represent Indians in a negative light?

There was this movie a few years ago and I don't remember the outcry.

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10th October 2009, 05:34
harsha

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Originally Posted by Daniel

I most certainly wouldn't want to call you a Paki either as I know it's offensive for an Indian person :) It's like calling a Scottish person English or vice versa. In Australia the useage of Paki is very much along the same lines as Pom or Sheepshagger when talking about a British person or a New Zealander :p It's simply an identifier and not an insult.

Harsha, what would you feel about someone blacking up somewhat and putting on an Indian accent as long as it was done for comedy and not to represent Indians in a negative light?

I would probably find it funny if it was done in a nice way....if it's not done in a nice way,I wouldn't care two hoots about it
13th October 2009, 08:18
Garry Walker

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Originally Posted by BeansBeansBeans

White people shouldn't be doing skits about being black.

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Why? what kind special creatures those blacks are that they should be excluded from being made fun of?
Black comedians have no problems making fun of whites, in fact everyone can make fun of whites and it is never considered racist (which I, for one, have no problem with. Humor is an essential part of life). Yet, dare to make a joke on blacks and every white guilt suffering liberal will go crazy.

I also cannot see how a white person "blacking up" is racist, but the opposite is not. White Guilt at its finest.

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Originally Posted by Bezza

Why exactly? As long there are no racist overtones then I fail to see what the problem is.

What are racist overtones anyway? If you say blacks usually have bigger lips than whites, is that racist?
13th October 2009, 08:35
Daniel

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Originally Posted by Garry Walker

What are racist overtones anyway? If you say blacks usually have bigger lips than whites, is that racist?

I think some people feel that the solution to racism is for us to completely forget that different races look different.

The thing is people are proud of their identity and black people are proud of being black, Indians are proud of being Indian etc etc so that clearly. When you do human biology at school these days you learn about how different races are adapted to the climate that they live in but I'm sure some people would rather people grow up thinking why the hell do some people have Mongolian eye folds and most people don't? Why are those people black, why are those people white and why are some people inbetween?

I firmly believe that by teaching these physical differences and why people are different that you teach people that the differences are only skin deep.
13th October 2009, 09:25
Garry Walker

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Originally Posted by Daniel

I think some people feel that the solution to racism is for us to completely forget that different races look different.

Which of course, is not the truth.

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The thing is people are proud of their identity and black people are proud of being black, Indians are proud of being Indian etc etc so that clearly.

As they should be, but when a white person claims to be proud of being white, that is at once considered a sign being a huge racist.

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