Windows Vista is krap

Here is an independent review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExeyrNZwzwQ

Don't worry, Daniel likes being banned :p

I certainly share the view that the less tinkering needed, the better. You have a continum with these things, with Linux requiring the most, Windows in the middle at Apple at the top end.

Linux is pretty bad in the tinkering stakes, you can do pretty much nothing with it unless you have some technical knowledge of how to make things work. Not being able to install software because your OS don't have some obsequre component is the normal not exceptional situation.

It's true for phones too, I've had Nokias for years but I'm seriously giving consideration to buying an iPhone next year, basically because every Nokia I've had, has had components which haven't worked properly for whatever reason, especially email. Whereas from what I've seen and heard about iPhones, 'it just works'..

That's the impression that I've gotten from others too, Mark. I use one of these boxes to trade. When the IE browser freezes up, that can become a rather expensive f'up. I have Mozilla installed, but parts of the trading site that I use don't seem to work right with that browser. I can't really blame that on the OS (or can I?! :D ), but I do look to MSFT when these annoying things happen.

I've actually been happier with XP than any of the other systems they've had. But Vista seemed to be a repeat of the Windows ME situation... just from what I've heard and read. Don't they EVER learn??? This thing will break sooner or later, so I'll eventually end up with something that runs W7... just because I need one functioning Windows box - and I'm not going to buy 2 Macs. ;)

It's not so much that I'm an Apple fanboi... I just want the Honda/Lexus of computers. I do not want (anymore of) the 1974 Jaguar XJ6 of computers... with Lucas electricals. :p :

what are the main problems with vista?

i've never had vista, but sence i'm getting a new computer that comes with vista i'm kinda worried about it, becouse all i've been hearing for the past two years is "vista sucks" :s

should i get the upgrade to windows 7?