Damn shame for JPM. He owned the race until that penalty. Still, he's in a Chase position and looking increasingly competitive.
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Damn shame for JPM. He owned the race until that penalty. Still, he's in a Chase position and looking increasingly competitive.
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Originally Posted by wedge
So who IN THIS DAY would you consider to be a better emulation? Emulation does not mean "the equal of", only "following in the footsteps of".Quote:
Originally Posted by markabilly
Gary
possibly Vale rossi (seems to turn in some very good times, if he ever switches to f1) or MS, until he fell off his superbike and quit charging forward......and then there is Tony Stewart, who went from midgets to dirt tracks to Indy OW, and has donw well even on road courses to Nasty car (where he has been far more successful than JPM, from day one)....... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by garyshell
Tony even throws his helmet better, harder and more accurate, as well as throws much bigger hissie fits than JPM ever could
Proof you want:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NekiB...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auAHi...eature=related
and here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mRY7...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dgNf...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-N3U6A6HB4&NR=1
and despite being quite "versatile" both on track and off track--(look at his speed test of the williams f1 at Indy and so forth), this is the reason that gordon ain't on my list as explained here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8yUP...eature=related
only an idiot would say nascar ain't the most supreme form of racing
And that one above is in honor of Tazio......bless his little banned heart :s mokin:Quote:
Originally Posted by markabilly
Just exacty who did he beat in the IRL?Quote:
Originally Posted by markabilly
You should not bring up the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
Those days are over.
He went to anger managment school....
The Ferrari engineers were telling Vale how to drive an F1 car and then Vale sulked like a baby which is why he went back to MotoGP.Quote:
Originally Posted by markabilly
Or his "rally" experience of a glorified circuit race
Not his fault. You would think the ferrari would have some engineers who could speak Etalian.Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
Besides i heard it was because he found it hard to turn w/o dragging his knee
How about Kimi Raikkonen - setting competitive times in a rally car until he did a jim Clark and wrecked it by trying too hard in the wrong place.Quote:
Originally Posted by garyshell
I will always smile as I remember Motoya's comments on the morning of the race.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tazio
When asked about the Speedway he said it was no big deal, just four corners, no problem.
It did not go down very well - but what else can a successful f1 driver say anyway - he was just telling the truth within his ability. :D
Anyone else remmber that interview?
Pole and finished third. Those closing laps were great!
http://www.nascar.com/video/cup/2009...car/index.html
I wonder where all the NASCAr people are that claimed Montoya's experience on other forms wouldn't apply to NASCAR, and that he would quickly become a "wanna be"? :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by gloomyDAY
I thought it was funny in the race commentary just how often they referred to Montoya being "aggressive" as if he was the only NASCAR driver racing that way. Com'on, were the rest of the field saying "after you", no, after you"? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by airshifter
Juan pablo really is coming along in NASCARl. He is now seriously in contention in every race, just something goes slightly wrong in each race which denies him a win. But IMO, its only a matter of time before Juans first oval win. He could be on to get in the way of certain drivers in their race for the championship.
Can't wait for Talladega.
He jumped from top 30 machinery all the way to top 5 with DEI know how for plate races.
What Juan has done this year is really impressive. I am rooting for him.
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Originally Posted by rabf1
Can I get an AMEN, brothers and sisters? :angel:
It sure has me watching NASCAR regularly after a forty+ year hiatus. I had an uncle who raced there in the 60's and watched whenever Wide World of Sports covered it. Since that time I would watch the odd race here and there and always the road course stuff. But now with Juan doing so well, I am watching when I can.
Gary
You and me both. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by rabf1
I always have and it's cool to be in the position of "I told you so" to all of those who dismissed him right away when he jumped into the Nascar Circus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sonic
:s mokin:
I don't care how he does in the NASCAR circus...I want Juan back in f1 :(
on a side note,nice to see you back race amigo
Juan is not a robot that can answer the same stupid questions over and over again. The PR department in F1 would crap their pants these days with an honest driver like JPM. F1 is too shallow to allow any of their drivers, aside from Fernando, to express their feelings.Quote:
Originally Posted by harsha
No, Formula 1 doesn't deserve Juan. He's not into telenovelas.
Hi Harsha!
Juan back to F1?? Right now, I don't think so . . . .
he . . we . . are having too much fun.
Man, I've never heard the television commentators say "Juan Pablo Montoya" so many times.
Interesting how they kept his F1 name - not Pablo Montoya . . .
and this is a first, they just called him "Mister aggression - Juan Pablo Montoya"
Hey old time JPM fans . . . isn't this a cool, surreal and satisfying moment to be in?
Way cool!!!
Go JPM!!!!
:s mokin:
Nascar is a series where a guy who is over 50 years old can still win races.
wow, this must be really high-quality series :rotflmao:
Mark Martin is one the greatest drivers never to win the championship.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garry Walker
If you are comparing ages of drivers with F1, let me remind you that they two series are worlds apart. F1 is more physically demanding with more gees etc, and you have to be really fit to drive one of those things. Nascar is about RACING, hauling that big steering wheel left, and guiding it in between cars at high speeds, rather than being super fit, and Mark Martin is a 50 year old guy who can RACE. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Garry Walker
not saying F1 drivers cant race, thats obsurd, but the emphesis is different in both sports. F1 is a young mans game. NASCAR is an everymans game. But that doesnt effect quality of drivers. different jobs, different cars etc ya know.
Also worth pointing out is that Mark Martin is a pioneer of physical training in the world of NASCAR. He's in damn better physical condition than the some of the young 'uns who are at their peak.
Do you even know about Mark Martin? The guy is very fit! I'm not entirely sure what that has to do with JPM, but I'm not surprised that you're trying to derail another thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garry Walker
The quality of NASCAR isn't too bad. Well paid drivers getting out there and racing one another until the checkered flag. Last Sunday's race was really fun to watch.
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Originally Posted by Garry Walker
If your only criteria for criticism is Mark Martin's age you really pretty un-informed. (I have a lot of other criteria for my critique of the series.) Mark is in better physical shape than about 95%, or more, of us here probably including you. His workout regimen rivals that of any young gun athlete in ANY sport. I am going to make a wild ass guess here and bet you are a road racing kind of fan (I am), but even if you aren't I would like to remind you of one Paul Newman. Any idea how old he was when he won his last race? Enough said.
If you think NASCAR is so easy, I dare you to go to the Richard Petty ride along program at any high bank track (preferably Daytona) and ride with the drivers for five laps on a hot summers day in street clothes. Then come back and tell us how easy it must be to last 200 laps in a full Nomex driving suit. Trust me, your tune will change. I know, I have done it. Five laps of riding was exhausting.
Gary
my mistake . . he was called Juan Montoya in the US before going to F1- Pablo Montoya is the name of his dad . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by race aficionado
bottom line is that I like it that they call him JPM in Nascar, as they did in F1-Juan Pablo Montoya.
Hoping for a great one today.
Go JPM!!!!
:s mokin:
even the most die-hard critics of montoya will accept that something has gone out of f1 when he left the sport :(
... and a 4th place at Dover puts JPM only 65 points behind the Chase leader in NASCAR. :)
He's sitting pretty at p3 in the chase right now :)Quote:
Originally Posted by airshifter
A pretty good read from The Washington Post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 02304.html
It would be a remarkable plot twist for NASCAR, a sport rooted in the South, to crown a native of Bogota, Colombia, its next champion.NASCAR's heroes have tended to be named Petty or Earnhardt. And its fans only grudgingly accepted the first champion from California, Jeff Gordon, who changed all notions of what a stock-car driver looks and acts like when he claimed the first of his four titles in 1995.Montoya would stretch that definition further.-------------Halfway through the season, Gordon warned that Montoya could surprise people if he qualified for the postseason.With Montoya now six spots head of him in the standings, Gordon ought to feel smart."He's gotten more consistent," Gordon said. "He's gotten better. He understands the cars, competition and tracks. And the team is starting to give him the equipment to go along with it."Ganassi feels smart, too."No question, some day you're going to mention his name alongside a lot of greats," Ganassi said. "By the time his career is over, he'll have done it all."Bold words from Chip!! :grenade:
juan is noy doing a great job in NASCAR, but seems to be consistent and his place in the champioship is a nice one.
NASCAR races are very interesting, but they abuse on caution laps, which removes sporting truth to each race: almost any car that spins causes a caution...
If you watched this weekends race , you know what a big disadvantage it was to restart on the inside lane of the side by side restarts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Almeidafoto
That is where JPM had to start. for the last two.
I believe it cost him two positions, and maybe even the win.
You are correct way too many cautions.
Too many cars on such short tracks! :down:
Go Juan !!! :arrows: :p : :bandit: :s mokin:
And now it apears the Hendrick cars ot Martin and Johnson are cheating their @$$es off trying to stop him :s mokin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Almeidafoto
http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news;...v=ap&type=lgns
Another top 5 finish! :D
I find it funny how everyone's talking about Stewart and Johnson when it's Martin and Montoya that are really on form.
Juan has been super consistent for a couple of months now, it's extremely impressive.
And picks up 14 points on the lead :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge