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Originally Posted by DonJippo
If I had a son I wouldn't let him drive a rally car explaining him it's too dangerous :p :
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Jokes appart, I would'nt let drive the biggest cars but would make him start in lower class first ;)
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Originally Posted by DonJippo
If I had a son I wouldn't let him drive a rally car explaining him it's too dangerous :p :
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Jokes appart, I would'nt let drive the biggest cars but would make him start in lower class first ;)
There is a single Fiesta S1600 in JWRC this year, TRT entered car for Alessandro Bettega. This is a prize drive for winning the Fiesta Sporting Trophy International (FSTi) last year. Car is supposedly of the latest spec and build by M-Sport in late 2006.Quote:
Originally Posted by koko0703
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Originally Posted by tmx
I'm tired of reading "the potential... the potential... the potential" I want to see any sign of that potential and until now there's no litle sign. This is his 4h year in rallying... and please don't compare Wilson to Toivonen. Why did people talk about Matthew Wilson? Only because he start driving at 15 and because with 18 did the entire WRC. Anyone talked because he made some big perfomance? At least the lack of money of Aigner made him go to the correct place: PWRC.
It isn't Malcolm Wilson who is sponsoring Matthew, its Eddie Stobart! And who they sponsor is entirely up to them and to be fair it is logical as Matt is from Cumbria and Stobart have their HQ there.
I expect Matthew to score more points than last year. First three rallies have been probably unsuitable to him, but since Mexico he should perform at least little better than so far.
I suspect Stobart is NOT funding the whole car and the whole season. There's some (or alot) of M-Sport money there too.Quote:
Originally Posted by geo374
And don't forget Eddie Stobart no longer owns Stobart Transport, now owned by WA Developments International which is run by Andrew Tinkler.
The Stobart team is sponored by many business. They sponsored the seats of Wilson and Latvala.
Latvala is futher sponsored by ST1. For Tuuri.fi and GERN probaly not all the rallies, because I saw the last two brands only in Sweden on the car.
These are the partners and sponsors of Stobart team. The main sponsor is the business 'Eddie Stobart'.
http://www.stobartmotorsport.com/wrc_partners.asp
These threads are getting abit too sad.
Tell me, whow many of us would like to drive a WRC car?
If any of us had the chance to do what Wilson Jr did, we would without doubt do it.
Do you think it matters that he will never be champion or even win a rally?
I dont think so. The guy is living his dream.
Sure it sucks that he has no talent, sure its bad. But if we had the money, I am sure most of us would be doing the same.
Soon enough he (and his father) will realise that this isnt the life for him, and withdraw from rallying. I hope that this moment will come soon rather than later and that he wont end up like Armin Schwarz.
stickers dont tell the whole story...Quote:
Originally Posted by FocusChampion
I agree we'd all like Matt's drive, if he was openly entered as a "gentleman" driver just there for the craic, as opposed to a potential champion would we all treat him differently?Quote:
Originally Posted by Koz
I think it's fair to say that drivers like Mikkelsen or Aigner (who has lesser experience than Wilson!) have shown much more signs of potential than young Wilson.
While I appreciate the Wilson is still learning the rallies, is it not too much to expect him to put in the odd quick stage time( top 6 ). He hasn't and hasn't looked like doing so. Though I stand to be corrected and I'm not counting Superspecials. I have nothing against him and hope he does well, I'm gonna judge him at the end of this season, but so far it doesn't look good.
8th in Mexico this week-end !!! Wow!!!!
Matthew, daddy and Stobart must be celebrating that event at home in England now !! :D
So he scores a point and still gets ridiculed...
scoring a point while being 3 months behind doesn't say much....he gets what he deservesQuote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
Simmi, there comes a point when you just have to ask yourself what is he achieving?
Sure he got a point, and well done to him for that, but he was eight minutes!!!!!! behind Latvala in 7th. That is an embarrassing amount of time by anyone's standards. Are you going to even try to defend the weekend's performance?
No wonder Mark Higgins is not (driving a Stobart WRC Focus) anymore as Matt's team mate.
Ok hes not doing too flash this year, but hey what he does is up to him. I don't support the guy, but i don't put him down.
It's wonderful with all you backseat drivers claiming he is total and utter sh!t. How many threads have we run with this topic? It's boring. No one on this forum would be able to drive that car faster than him! (apart from Pentti, and he would do it in spectacular fashion). I know this is a discussion forum although discussing it once is cool. For the eighth time, reading the same slandering comments is a waste of bandwidth.
Let's find something worth talking about or has the WRC become that boring that we now need to discuss how sh!t the low ranking drivers are?
WRCfan
i would not be so sure on that, apart from pentti, there are a few more national drivers in the forum, i know for sure that at least two austrians are arround here, one with wrc-knowledge and one very good young upcoming driver, one of them already proofed that he is miles faster than slowson....Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCfan
and i am sure from other countries are also drivers in here!
regards
wrc1
Yeah ok so there is always a couple of exceptions. The majority of us (which is a sh!t load) could not. THAT is my point.
The simple fact of the matter is
a: he is living his dream, so why shouldnt he?
b: if daddy or whoever is going to pay for him then that is their business.
c: MOST of US could not run any better so until we can we should stop sh!tting on him as hard as many are. (yes it is a discusison forum but this is really a nice case of bashing).
d: It is another WRC car to watch on the stages, or watch leave the road...why are we whinging?
e: I know EVERYONE on this forum would give their right arm to be in Matt's position
f: I dont support him however i don't sh!t on the dude, I certainlly don't support the bashing he gets from everyone. For ages the Brit's have whinged about not having a UK driver in the WRC, now u have one yet even though he is doing poorly you still feel the need to crap on him further...seems no one is very patriotic....
Just my 2 c.
Actually I'm right handed so should I give it away, I wouldn't be much of a driver. However, I'd give what's left of my brains. ( it's not much though )Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCfan
Wilson Jnr has this problem because he came out saying how he was going to be the next big thing, or atleast people in his entourage did, and as a result he has the spotlight and the weight of expectation thrust upon him. If he just quietly entered the sport and didn't make a fuss, then the spotlight wouldn't be on him and he wouldn't have to live up to, lets face it here, unrealistic expectations that he could one day win rallies and win championships. He should have just stuck with "hey I have an awesome opportunity here to have some fun competeing at the highest level. If i manage to crack it one day as a top driver then that would be wicked but at the moment im just concentrating on learning the ropes and becoming the best driver i can be" and thats it! Theres nothing wrong with being confident in your own abilities and thinking you could one day be the best, but that doesn't mean you need to broadcast it! Keep it to yourself man!
I think its great he is out there living his dream, wish i could be doing it! but by making a fuss he now has to put up with the critics, thats his problem, not the critics
I totally agree with you. The problem was the way as Matthew was shown when started the WRC in 2006. The future champion. With so many young drivers that show big skills, everybody was waiting some good rallyes from Matthew and that didn't happened (many of us already knew that was dificult to happen).Quote:
Originally Posted by RJL25
With so many promises and so many presentations as "the next big star", and looking at the results, the critics are obvious and acceptable. The critics are only a consequence of the atitude.
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Originally Posted by WRCfan
No-one on this forum except Pentti.. (Wheres that PMSL smiley?) Bollocks!
I believe there would be many forum members quicker than him if they had similar WRC experience.. Its plain to see that Mathew just doesnt have the raw speed required.
I used to say give him time.. but hes had more than enough of that now and I totally agree with JAM that he just doesnt have it.
I know if it wasn't for Mathew Wilson there wouldn't even be the Stobart team, so basically he isn't taking anyone else's seat.
So nothing agaisnt "tourist" drivers as I would do the same if had the cash required but one thing is for sure IMO, Wilson has no talent for WRC so maybe his dad and everyone around him should stop claiming he's the next big thing in WRC cause that's what the fans find a bit annoying.
Similar is the case with Juan Pablo Raies, he claims to be the best rally driver in South America yet he couldn't beat regularly N4 cars with a 2003 WRC Impreza
:dozey: Never ending story here. :s mokin: recurrence, repeats.......repeats....... :down: :s nore:
The story will last maximum 4 years again(the length of Wilslow contract with daddy in WRC) :p :
I might be bit in the dark, but i haven't really seen or heard Malcom setting his son up as the big one. Most interviews i've seen has him downplaying expectations and mentioning only smallish positive steps.Quote:
Originally Posted by jso1985
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Originally Posted by janneppi
You should go back 12 months or 13 months and read what was written at time. And i never saw nobody from the team come to public and say that the reports and interviews were false.
I already told you that Stobart exists while exist drivers with money to rent the cars, not only because Matthew. Last year you had Luis Peres Companc, Kosti katajamaki and Jari Mati Latvala to runs the Focus WRC04 and altely the 06. This year you have Latvala and Henning Solberg, and as you see Wilson is not nomitanted to score points in some events. Without Wilosn the Focus04 were running. It's only a question of money... if money appear the cars run. You still can't understand that? Before Matthew was the future WRC champion, now Matthew is the responsible for having a n. 2 Ford Team... this is like a Joke. About Raies... the best sul american driver?? Only in his own mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by jso1985
I'll take your word for the praises, but do you honestly think it still warrants such a venomous scoulding every bleeding stage of every bleeding rally every goddamn bloody day when they have stopped making his drive a big deal?Quote:
Originally Posted by JAM
I think it just shows how snobbish people can be about their own little sport.
I don't think critics will stop until some rally fans(especially from UK)still consider Wilslow as a rallystar instead of a simple "gentleman driver"... :rolleyes:
Excuse me but i'm not very good in english language, so i don't answer your post because i could had missunderstood it.Quote:
Originally Posted by janneppi
I would really appreciate it if someone could dig something up from 12 months ago that said he would win the world championship, because here in the UK I heard nothing apart from 'developing and gaining experience' and talks of '3 year plans'. I dont know what has been said (dare I say misquoted) in your respective national media, but I really haven't heard anything of the sort. Most definately not from Matt nor his father so as I say I'd love to see something just so I can read it for myself.
I, nor is anyone in the UK pretending Matt is the next big thing, he deserved a chance and had the means to do it and I'm very much with janneppi when he says why are people still slating him when we all know the level of driver that he is. He's not up to standard, as are a lot of drivers in the WRC.
If it were up to the people in this forum there would have been no Solbergs or McRae's, simply because their early careers were poor. Im not saying Matt is anywhere near that level but thats hardly the point. Just let him drive.
Interesting that an underdog named Wilson gets so much and almost endless attention. :) A lot more than some better drivers, who would deserve it more!
McRae has a good start of the career and the results aftear that proved it. Petter Solberg had a not so good start of career (i remember him in Portugal in 1999... really sad) and i never considered Petter Solberg one of the best drivers. Was a driver made by manufactureres, but not a natural talented. With all the respect that Petter deserves (as Matthew) this is my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
About Matthew i said everything one year ago, i was the only one, now if i would repeate i will be one more saying the same. I don't want to be repetitive. I was alone, and i'm not anymore alone.
Can a just say i agree with Simmi AND CAN THE REST OF YOU GET A LIFE
Im not interested in what you were saying particularly JAM I was wondering about all the media attention you keep mentioning and what they were saying.
About the 5 years plan: I heard Malcolm Wilson speak that words on WRC radio. But I don't know what it means. What is the final result after 5 years? That I've never heard or is expain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
This is high interest story!
http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache...l&ct=clnk&cd=1
i am quite happy with my life. just because you are getting a little angry.. because the critics are being proved right, and you are being proved wrong. The fact that matthew wilson ditched last years pacenotes from mexico to start a different pacenote making system, smacks of desparation, with very little else to try..Quote:
Originally Posted by sxis