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Originally Posted by Brother John
I don't disagree with you which is the better var, but how does that make JML crash more?
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Originally Posted by Brother John
I don't disagree with you which is the better var, but how does that make JML crash more?
I don't think Galli is better than JM.He had his chance and he didn't take advantage of it last year.Personally,I expected more from him....Quote:
Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1
well since the Focus is slower then the C4 and if JML wants to achieve the same times as Loeb, JML have to push harder on and sometimes over the limit and when you're on or over the limit your much more likely to crash since you take bigger risks.Quote:
Originally Posted by ste898
While someone who is a very fast driver in a faster car can drive with sligthly larger margin and is therefore less likely to do a mistake.
And how do you see that as a fact?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother John
I must say I’m little surprised about the performance from JML looking it from a mental aspect. Timo Jouhki said in an interview that he’s also taking into account the mental side when he chooses drivers to support but it seems that tests or testers have failed with that with JML or then the tests aren’t so reliably.
IMO another problem JML has are the pace notes. It seems that he always mange to find some stones he don’t have in his pace notes. And as he said in the interview at wrc.com he wants to see the braking places and that IMO means that he don’t rely on the pace notes.
Here JML analyses his crashes.
http://translate.google.com/translat...history_state0=
….tip nakutellessa time…. = ….making the fastest times….
pätkä, erikoiskoe = SS
semmoinen = kind of
Portugal Latvala auto municipality…. = In Portugal the crew…..
Jari-Matti has great skills behind the wheel. Sometimes he's even faster than Loeb, but he's less consistant (we have to face that he's got less experience that Sèb).
When I saw the footage of the accident, it really reminded me when Henri Toivonen passed away. God, it was scarry...
Mikko 4 seconds faster than this morning
26.8 the final difference after day 2...
Despite sweden 2008 J-M has never been faster than Seb in rally distance. Usually J-M does better times from better road position or when Loeb is driving strategically.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lalo
Excellent, like bringing Nicky Grist in to calm down McRae.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndiG
I think Ford should give Chris or Petter a test in the Focus to see how they'd do. There's really little other choice for Ford, as I see it; JML crashes too much. PG Andersson, Gigi Galli, Henning and Matt Wilson just don't have the speed of Petter or Chris.
Of course, if they could convince Marcus to come out of retirement, that'd be their best chance. But from what I've heard from him, I don't think he's keen on signing up as a permanent driver.
I think someone needs to look at JML's pacenotes,driver skill doesn't come into it,the boy is awesome,it looks to me that his notes are wrong,Portugal and Cyprus were almost the same mistakes,touching banks and throwing the car off line,and how many other silly mistakes has there been to with just to much entry speed,before we all jump on the bandwagen and wright Jari off,a change off co-driver has to be tried
PS,I nearly pi$$ed my self laughing when people suggested dropping Jari for the Australian wrecking machine Atkinson
Wilson said that Latvala had a "double caution" for this particular corner,where he had the horrifying accident...Also,JM told that he didn't break,despite that Miikka told so,because he wanted to see that he has to break....I can't understand what is going on with him,but I continue to support him as before :)Quote:
Originally Posted by farquar wrc
Latvala has a lot of unlocked potential, he still might come (very) good. He is the youngest WRC winner of all times and the age of 24 is nothing in rallying terms. But I think it could be a good idea to give him a Stobart drive for the rest of the season.
Talking about replacements in the A-team Andersson, Atkinson or Gardemeister would all be great choices. It would be great to see them finally getting a proper chance in WRC in a top car, something they really haven't got yet.
Just twisting your words a little.: ;) Atkinson has suffered driving a uncompetetive car? What about his teammate?
In the early 2007 there was a short movie on wrc.com about crashing in WRC where they counted crashing percentage (retirement at least for leg) for drivers in last maybe ten years. The most crashing one was Atkinson, second Duval. They had huge "advantage" over others.
I mention that just for those who think these two are more reliable drivers...
Not unlike any other elite sporting event the mind is the hardest beast to tame. JM needs his team right now more than anything else. Lets face it, we all see his talent but his mind is getting in the way. He is young and needs to be molded and helped through this. He may not be the type of person that takes criticism or thinks he knows it all, but what he needs is a good role model to show him how to handle the pressure and unplug his brain and do what he is being paid for...Drive.
Fix his concentration and mould his dicision making and you will have a consistent top 2 driver. He is only 25.
If you mean Solberg, he hasn't always driven an uncompetitive car. The same can't be said for Atkinson.Quote:
Originally Posted by JFL
On gravel surface I disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by serial jeff
For the first time ever I totally agree with you ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
If you look better, Gigi didn't do worse to JML when you compare both on Stobart (no work car no tests etc.). He was also a little bit unlucky in some rallies with the car giving him problems or stones in the road :\Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho!
lol you don't even know what means the word "speed" thenQuote:
Originally Posted by serial jeff
http://www.motorsportforums.com/foru...ons/icon14.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by tmx
Anyway, keep JML. He's only 24 for God's sake. He can improve, remember Mikko in 2004 then :p ? And people winning their first WRC title over 30 ... ?
Garde Garde Garde!!!
Bye bye JML! :p
[quote="Ghostwalker"]well since the Focus is slower then the C4 and if JML wants to achieve the same times as Loeb, JML have to push harder on and sometimes over the limit and when you're on or over the limit your much more likely to crash since you take bigger risks.quote]
Correctly, nevertheless someone who sees what the problem is of Ford.
Just take a look to the behaviour of C4 and of the focus on gravel, snow or asphalt. The Citroën reacted as go-cart where as Ford drivers must fight to keep the car on the good line.
Unfortunate that we no longer see Pentti on the forum, he could much better explain than I what there is wrong with the focus.
I hope that all goes well with Pentti and that we will see him again here on the forum.
If Latvala was a business, he would be bankrupt years ago.
Wilson cannot sack JML, he is paying for that seat.
Ford is a bad position. The market has been strangled by pay drivers.
Goods driver like PG, Aava, Meeke etc..are not allowed to develop.
Hence Ford has no option... only a paying driver!
Its a vicious circle.
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Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1
Ford wants to go forward not back!!!
PG andersson would be good choice or Petter.
I forget which driver it was that was asked "what do you have to do to beat Loeb?"
I would of laughed if they had said drive a C4
I believe Latvala has a great future, due to his young age. He has time to mature, and he got the speed, which means he will get a new chance after every mistake. His personality is also very respectful, straight and open talker, nothing not to like about this guy. He got a competitive instinct so strong it just beats himself. But I think he is able to suddenly turn his bad luck into incredible performance, like the flip of a switch. There is just some mental barrier he does not have exactly control over, but when he figures this out it can be a true awakening. The difficult thing is to say when he will wake up..? but I'm sure he will. On top of that however, he also needs to alter his style, he still often has a far too wide line.
You have to give credit where credit is due. Loeb can out drive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghostwalker
I remember this and while Chris Atkinson was the number one for DNF's as a percentage of starts, they did go on to say thatCA has had very few starts at that time.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Mirek Fric [Cze
Would like to compare other drivers in say, their first 20 WRC starts and see how they stack up.
That's not a good excuse, he needs to learn to drive to the limits of his car, which is probably more than Hirvonen achieves. There are probably a few drivers out there who could drive at Latvala's pace but crash 2 out of every 3 or 4 rallies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghostwalker
You are right that the Focus and the C4 have a very different character. I really hate watching the Focus, probably the dullest world rally car of all time, but does that mean it's slower? Does anyone really believe that Mikko would be on Loeb's level were he in a C4, or that Loeb wouldn't still be ahead of Mikko in the Focus? The problem I have believing this is that Loeb has won on every imaginable surface so far this year, even Norway where one might have expected the Finns had a home advantage.Quote:
Correctly, nevertheless someone who sees what the problem is of Ford.
Just take a look to the behaviour of C4 and of the focus on gravel, snow or asphalt. The Citroën reacted as go-cart where as Ford drivers must fight to keep the car on the good line.
Unfortunate that we no longer see Pentti on the forum, he could much better explain than I what there is wrong with the focus.
I hope that all goes well with Pentti and that we will see him again here on the forum.
BTW, I am sure Pentti knows what he is talking about, but you also have to remember he is Finnish so might be inclined to blame the Focus too ;)
Wonder how PG would be in a Ford eh? :)
Who suggested Atko???? Why replace JML with a driver who is slower and almost as unreliable? There's a proven driver from Finland who isn't doing much and still has some pace, got a few links with Ford too ;)
Gardemeister is indeed the best possible choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Jan Yeo
From what I've heard, Latvala doesn't really listen to his pace-notes, he drives on sight. This is unbelievable - his people need to get him to listen to what the notes are describing - hence he arrives at a corner far too quickly and, yeah, CRASH!!
I know when he was with Pentti, he did have English pace notes, but when he moved back to Finland he used Finnish. Something is wrong, and for Jari-Matti's sake needs to be rectified quickly.
i dunno its kinda sad for Latvala because undoubtably he has the speed to win but as suggested maybe its for the best if he goes back to the stobart team with less pressure on him to win and get his head round consistency. and promote the fact that he is probably the best rising star in the WRC at the moment?
If they want finisher yes, but if they want somebody who can beat Loeb P.Solberg is the only choice..Quote:
Originally Posted by J.Lindstroem
Really don't think Petter can/will leave his team at this point. Maybe if the sponsors could approve to put Mikkelsen or someone else in the Xsara.
Whilst its no secret that Petter's intention is to get back to a factory team, I think there is too much investment, and staff involved in PSWRT to leave this year. Its not like Henning or any other pay driver jumping make, there are others involved in Petters team. What happens to them if Petter would to go to Ford for a few rounds. I think Petter will be in PSWRT at least until late 2009 season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gard
How much they gave him? If he can pay only salaries (FX and Mills) from sponsorships he is good.. Where's car and other expences? But what's that with how much he lost replacing Subaru brand with Citroen. On the other hand there's podium finish. Also if he stayed with Subaru brand as a privateer few good drives from M.Ostberg in the similar car and P.Solberg brand has gone..
On GPWeek Wilson and Quensel talk about Jari-Matti...Wilson says what we already know,while Olivier says that he would like to see him in a Citroen!!!
Comment:No way,dear French...!!!!
Na ... I don't believe this. He has just described what happens. If a stage is ALL narrow, then he has the correct rhythm for the whole stage. But if there are fast sections followed by slow corners, he doesn't lift the throttle in time ^^ (do you remember in Sweden 2008 ? He hit some barriers at the end of a fast stage xD !).Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
He has asked his co-driver to shout at him to brake and slow down. Didn't work again...