The way I interpret it it says he even used that as an argument in yesterdays meeting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Halvis
Good news, lets see what happens in Cyprus !
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The way I interpret it it says he even used that as an argument in yesterdays meeting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Halvis
Good news, lets see what happens in Cyprus !
I think he better stay home this year...the car will not change much. Maybe try his luck with an official team when seat is available. He can also consider IRC to get some experience with an s2000
I think you're right there - the car wont change much. He will never get Citroen to upgrade the car to a level competitive with Sordo and Loeb.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
You dont get it do you, this kid cant sit still :)
Also, this project is now a little bigger than just Petter, 10-15 people on his paylist.
Hehe, I get it - but I still doesn't believe in him getting a good Xsara. But get me right - I love Petter fighting in the WRC so I don't wish him out :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Viking
No guess not, but if he can get a top shape Xsara, Qusenel might see the benefit of having Petter fighting for 3rd, and push the Ford duo down the list.Quote:
Originally Posted by swordsman
If they could say; even the last car we made is better than your current......
this info has been confirmed false. they where testing completely different things. and not even on identical tracksQuote:
Originally Posted by Sarac330d
as it says on his car. "THIS IS MY LIFE"Quote:
Originally Posted by Viking
Imao, Petter will replace Aava at Stobart.
^He should but he won't because the whole idea of the Xsara is that he is free to talk to other teams throughout the season, and to do the Le mans 24.
I hope he gives up on the Xsara and starts testing the Proton and doing all the WRC rounds in a Proton as an extened test.
Lets see after Cyprus. But if he is not closer to the top there, I think he need to sit down and think a bit long term strategic on this !
He is working to get a C4 for Portugal !
that would be good!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
Citroen was more or less counting on Atkinson to find the budget for more rallies, so in there is a C4 WRC available.
I guess if the car planned for Atkinson was available, PSWRT would manage it but it would be engineered by Citroen. Seems a fair compromise, Citroen get to keep their secrets and allowing PSWRT to have the independence of entertaining their own guests and using team personnel for non engine / transmission parts. Not wishing to detract from Sordo but the gap between the Ford drivers and Sordo is closing, its Loeb the Ford guys cant touch. Maybe a PSWRT C4 between Loeb and Hirvonen would suit Citroen afterall. And there is a new engine for the Focus from Portugal with more power...........game on?
I wouldnt get too excited about Fords 'new' engine.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJW
Yeah, on a Dyno the engine may put out more power and torque but you can only get so much air into the engine. Its more likely that peak power and torque has been moved around the rev range through adjustments in cams, intake and exhaust designs along with tuning to achieve more power in theory. Weather this translates into better acceleration and drivability on the road is another thing.
But having said that, Im all for closing the gap between the Focus and the C4.
If Ford do seem top have a noticeable increase in speed in Portugal and Petter cant find a C4 drive, then perhaps a Ford wouldnt be as second rate as seems to be the curent situation.
Petter said it was a pretty big culture shock to go from many seasons in Subaru to a totally different car - and his own team in the same rally, but say the grip in the Xsara is so much better than even the latest S14 - and we saw that on Østberg, it was understeering a lot on the snow !
Lets hope they both will be more happy after their next events !
So, Novikov is for 8 events, so that makes 3 events when at least one of the C4´s is available. Probably they can arrange one more for 7 other events. But that, most likely reduces the reliability of the other C4-s (except Loeb). And you have to remember that Ogier is confirmed only for first 6 events as well.
Now when there is a new rule that you can register only one car for 8 events to classify as a M2 team, there is a possibility that Citroen is interested that there is a car that is able to take possible points away from Ford, then I can see clear connections here. And there is still rule that you have to use same model during the season, so, then Portugal for C4 makes good sense as well.
Great to hear another comment on the superiority of Xsara, but pity to know it's a lot back in terms of technology...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
Reliable source??Quote:
Originally Posted by MJW
MOTORSPORT NEWS UK published weekly motorsport newspaper
OK!Thanks a lot!! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MJW
Hmm, maybe you now more about mapping than I do but I try although I’m not an expert and don’t have any practical experience of ECUs but I do know how computers works.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viking
Basically an ECU is a microcomputer consisting of a CPU or a micro controller, memory, I/O (input / output) chips and on the input side A/D (analogy/digital) converters. Here is a pic of an ECUs inputs and outputs for the amount of fuel.
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii284/OkdF/ECU.jpg
When the software of the ECU interprets the values of the inputs, the software of the ECU converts the input signals to a memory address. Then it reads the value from that memory address and put it out as a pulse width to the fuel injectors. The ignition is adjusted earlier or later in the same manner.
An ECU can have several different maps and I think you have seen in some coverage when the drivers said that the engine turned on the safety mode for some reason. So a WRC car has at least two different maps, one for stages and one for safety mode or road sections. In fact I once read an article in which the writer said that there is a basic map and the tuning map consists of multipliers of that map (the basic maps values are multiplied with multipliers >1 or <1). Changing the values in the memory is mapping and to do that you have to have software in a PC that is connected to the ECU and I think the WRC teams wont give that software to anyone. Basically it’s possible to replace the original ECU with an aftermarket ECU like Motec, and start the mapping from scratch, but I don’t if it’s it prevented somehow.
Fuel map:
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/i...dF/fuelmap.jpg
Ignition map:
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/i...kdF/ignmap.jpg
Every square in the horizontal plane is one memory location / address. ;)
Old F, I am impressed !
Very easy to understand explanation !
Thanks SullandQuote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
and this is for a NA engine. Turbo engines will have additional inputs for boost pressure, air temps on different places.
Output for regulating boost pressure and probably air/oxygen injection in fuel system or some other tricks
and antilagQuote:
Originally Posted by Gard
The pic was only for the fuel injectors. Have a look here on page 7.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gard
http://www.ralliart.co.jp/GRN/homolo...ancerEvo10.pdf
It cannot be compared directly with a WRC cars input / outputs but gives a view that there are lot more I/O compared to my pic.
Looks like Peter has got is C4
http://redirectingat.com/?id=42X123&...g-c4-portugal/
In a question of wrc.com he refused that....Quote:
Originally Posted by big_sw2000
It doesn't matter what spec Petter is given...he can drive the legs off the car when he is able....BUT...he will not be allowed to get close to the factory cars. Ahead of the Fords, Yes, but not the Loeb & Sordo.
Remember McRae & Saintz with Subaru. Team orders will come into play if he is receiving any technical help from Citroen. It would have been agreed at the start. "Get close to the factory cars & back off, or no support"
Simples!!!
But usually Sordo is behind Ford guys...So to pass them,he has to pass Sordo first!!!And another point:He doesn't take manufacturer points!So,even if he ends up higher than Sordo,then it's the Spaniard's problem,not Citroen's!! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Skelly
If Petter would have been somewhere near Loeb, he would give 110% to defeat him... Petter would never back up.
But sadly Loeb is in a class of his own, so I don`t see that coming...
If given a better car to Cyprus, I do think Petter will beat Sordo..
Everything depend on the stage conditions....With the typical dry and rough gravel Petter can reach the podium...Tactics will come FOR SURE into play!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sturla
hope Petter will improve performance compared Norway rally.
This appeared this morning in his website :
"Citroen has given me a new engine and together with new dampers from Reiger, and more time for preparations, I really think it will be possible to fight in Cyprus. We have been analyzing and preparing in the weeks after Rally Norway and I am confident that we are much more prepared this time."
At last Petter has found a dance-partner he finds the rhythm with, and goes where he leads. (X)Sara is the name of her !
It is so cool to se the real Mr Hollywood disco king back in the circus !!
Both he and we deserve to have him back where he belongs !
The one that took over his ex sub, said that the S14 only will work on a totally flat surface, made of wood - the parquet ! But that surface is rarely used in WRC.
Good thing he ditched her, and hooked up with Sara !! ;)
i wouldn;t judge peter from a good drive in cyprus....the event is very rough to draw cocnlusions....even panizzi was quick there.
If you watch results from last five years top drivers have outpaced others by the biggest margin. For instance Cyprus and Greece were rallies where Grönholm was most superior to Hirvonen (also Latvala in Greece 2007). I would rather say Cyprus is one of the rallies that distinguishes men from the boys.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Altough admittedly it could be said that Cyprus was one of the most suitable rallies for the Xsara.
Sad indictment of how bad the recent Subarus have been - Solberg is closer to the pace in a self-prepared 4 year old Citroen than he was in a works Subaru last year. Makes you wonder what Atkinson might be capable of on gravel. If Ford want to put up a fight against Loeb this year, they'd be well advised to get Solberg alongside Hirvonen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
Awesome result for Petter. He is about the only interesting thing in the WRC right now.