Good to see Atkinson is competing in 2009, can't wait to see completely smashed up C4's.
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Good to see Atkinson is competing in 2009, can't wait to see completely smashed up C4's.
Or maybe its the same for Wilson if Petter drives for Ford or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Finni
Hold on a minute.Petter was telling in all his latest words that he wants a car that will be able to challenge for victory,which means Ford or Citroen.So,with all the places locked in the French team,the only remaining solution is Ford.Malcolm for sure feels a little bit uncomfortable with Chris in Citroen.Petter,I think,is the best option at the moment...
I beleive Petter is under contract with Subaru for 2009, hence neither Ford nor Citroen are possible. I think I read somewhere that his salary from Subaru for 2009 is 5 MEUR.Quote:
Originally Posted by Finni
If he has salary from 5 MIL EuRO for 2009 he can pay 1,5 Mil. to Prodrive if he realy want to drive! :s mokin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Slipzen
I think that as soon as Subaru walked away their contracts will have been finished, I don't know whether they will still have to have been paid or not.
I think looking at the fact that Henning and Gigi were battling for podium positions quite a lot shows that Petter could do better in the same car, I really hope that he can work something out even if it means paying for a full drive to give him one last chance in 2009.....
Atkinson is a solid driver. Unless he does a Duval you will not see piles of crashed Citroen's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fischer
And unless he is out on more than one event there is only one at most you could see. I really hope not, but Ireland is an ultra tricky event at the best of times...Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
I have great pleasure to invite everybody for Round WRC in
POLAND.WELCOME EVERYBODY IN POLAND JUNE 2009.
"On this website http://www.accommodation-rallypoland.com
Supporters from all over the world can book accommodation for the period the Rally
Poland '09 (25-28 June 2009), which is one of the rounds of WRC cycle.
You can also find there a google map on which both places of
accommodation and special stages are marked. What is more, there are
also descriptions of given accommodation along with pictures, GPS
location and the description of the equipment. "
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g-fkCM_ovc
Actually, he also said it has to be a subaRust, so he still haven't learned anything... Unless he's planning to race a cusco impreza in jgtc until his contract runs out? At least that's a Subaru capable of winning. And I guess he could need a years worth of practice on asphalt if he wants to be champion again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho!
True. But I think it would be a dumb move to only give him a drive for one rally. Believe me the guy is such a bloody solid driver when he has the machinery to do the job. I think given a proper car he'd beat Latvala in a straight fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by J4MIE
Yep Daniel, I'm expecting a lot of him as well... Hope he can do it and he gets the proper material of Citroen!Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Sorry,but Jari-Matti has the upper hand in terms of pure speed!!However,concerning the consistency Atkinson is a little bit better...
They both are crash test dummies until now ... and maybe Atko tops JML xDQuote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Did you forget this video ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2b4BdwoOqOA&fmt=18
Your point being?Quote:
Originally Posted by Helstar
believe me back in Australia when Chris has a proper car he was solid. The Subaru has never been a good car while Chris has been in the WRC.
Press release on Petter's website (today sunday 28th december) says agreement has been reached allowing Petter to drive any make of car in 2009 season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Englandsfahrer
http://www.pettersolberg.com/html/20...etter-solberg/
I expect an announcemnet of what car he drives soon, all we have to speculate now is it a Ford or C4.
I suspect a Ford, but would like to see hIm in a C4.
In that case Citroen will be even more powerful!! :eek:
Very nice news indeed!!!
Wilson is complete idiot if he don't offer full-season with full test and full-equipped car. Driver of that caliber with huge sponsorships is gift from heaven. With Solberg it could be possible to give solid challenge to Loeb (like Grönholm did 2007).
I agree completely, very good news! Petter is quoted to have said that he will call both Citroen and Ford today, Monday, too ask if they have any available cars left. It's a very brief newsstory, without much detail, but my understanding is that he is prepared to pay for a drive - at least he is quoted to say that he will have to do much more private from now on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Finni
I think Atkinson will be in the same boat as all those other ex-works drivers who have ended up undertaking incomplete semi-works (or non-works) campaigns. In other words, flashes of speed but no wins. It's a shame because I think he deserves better than that, just like Duval probably did, and Loix before that.
Duval did get the chance to drive a proper car though. If Chris gets a half decent car he'll do a good job of it I reckon. But if he's in a crap car you'll probably be right.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
so did Loix, all his cars was winning except the Hyundai, at Peugeot he even was the main testdriver but he got nothing done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
I wasn't talking about Loix :p I know I'll sound like Pino but believe me if Atkinson gets a good car he'll have the pace to win rallies. I doubt he'd beat Loeb in a straight fight but he will have very good pace.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
No but the guy to who's post you did answer did speak about Loix too. What comes to Atkinson, soon we will see, Citroen should be the best out there now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
I think its difficult to judge him, simply because only he and Petter has been driving the Subaru, everyone says, me too, that Subaru was a crap car, but it would be easier to judge if some third guy would have driving it too.
For the same reasons it's difficult to judge Petter as well, has he developed as driver or has the younger guys passed him already, but soon we see that too propably, bloody good Subaru did throw in the towel, hopefully there will be more show than talk now.
OK true. But from what I've seen of Chris in the ARC he should do very well given a proper car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
Do you think Chris achievement in ARC surpasses his last year performance in wrc? Chris' beated world champion in the same car. Not bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Välimäki did ok in ARC too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Ok perhaps I didn't make my point very well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
In the ARC Chris was very quick and very solid. Kind of like Loeb. I know the ARC is hardly a top level competition so results are somewhat meaningless, it's more about how he drove and in my mind I've not been impressed more by any of the newcomers in the WRC other than perhaps Ogier. I was right about Loeb 6 years ago so why not about Chris now? :p
Chris won in group N @ Rally Australia on his first attempt. To me this is something considering how difficult the event is. Perhaps he will be the next Loix but I don't see it personally :)
Lol, not the next Loix, but it will be interesting to see, Sordo should be worried i guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
As I said a long time ago Sordo should have been fired and Chris hired....Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
When you consider Chris beat Petter and isn't all that far behind Sordo when you consider the difference in cars then Chris has to be doing something right. I can't wait to see Ogier and Chris in C4's next year. I think it will make for some interesting results.
I don't think he can win rallies, he's not capable of that (beating Loeb I mean).Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Also, Citroen will never allow him to beat his works drivers. Maybe only Sordo when Atko happens to be ahead of Fords and Sordo behind them in the last rally day ^^
But we will see, it's surely interesting. He's a faster driver compared to a lot of others (won't name them :p ). But can he keep his head cooled down ? In the last rally didn't seem so ...
Is anyone capable of beating Loeb consistently? Nope.Quote:
Originally Posted by Helstar
But as we've seen in the last few years some can beat him on selected rallies. Perhaps we should wait a little before writing of Chris you know ;) Unlike Gigi he's never had a properly competitive car ;)
Sponsors for a full season, was in place last week. Only seats for the #1 drivers are taken, so there is possibilities.Quote:
Originally Posted by Halvis
If Petter S goes in a C4 next year, the duel in equal cars between Atko and Solberg will look very very tight and we would see which one is really the best after the episode of the Imprezas... :p :
Petter and Chris could split off from the Junior Citroen MT2 (be honest, they both are far from junior now) and form Citrobaru World Rally Team :) . I hope Petter will choose the Citroen side.
With all these extra C4's running around next year, you might see that Malcom has match them and as a result we see Petter in a Focus. That would be my bet.
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Originally Posted by curry
I too don't see Wilson missing the opportunity(would be crazy if opposite) ;)
That has to be the best bet for the WRC, the chance for Petter to show that he isn't past it. he would be worth a bundle in advertising for Ford, though i wonder how many of his loyal fans will follow him across, please let him be in a Focus next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by curry
If he goes to Ford, surely he would be given a top spec car, whereas I doubt he would get the equivalent of seb's c4 if he goes that route.
Only if you are part of works team you will get top spec car, set-up and engineers what ever team that is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Camelopard