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Originally Posted by bluuford
No worries, yes, co-drivers are more important than many people think.
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Originally Posted by bluuford
No worries, yes, co-drivers are more important than many people think.
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Originally Posted by MikeD
yeah, like this is an option..........
Contending in the WRC is a serious decision at any level. Much more is the effort they exerted putting two cars in the manufacturer championship. I blame this on the FIA and no one else…Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeD
Ogier, unsurprisingly, has already tested a C4
http://rallybuzz.stagetimes.com/seba...t-c4-wrc-test/
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Originally Posted by Saabaru
What a load of BS. FIA is not to blame for Suzuki driving around like sick dogs (to use a N.O.T. Expression). They either underestimated the level of competitiveness or simply didn't have the the right people to build and run a proper WRC rally car.
From Rallybuzz.com:
Eamonn Boland will run his Subaru Impreza WRC in Catalunya & Rally GB. Car is run by Dom Buckley.
toyota took a VERY long time before they were competive in nascar... now they are doing decent... i think its more that they are really behind & that citroen is just a step ahead of everybody else for some reason...Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeD
Or maybe just a bad timing?Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeD
Last time I checked they where going to pull out and wait for the FIA to get there crap together on the new regulations. Why should Suzuki waste money developing a car that is going to be obsolete in a year and a half anyway. Truth be told, I don’t see the SX4 ever being competitive. The car is too small, they should have used something like the Reno but that has nothing to do with why they are pulling out now.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeD
If the FIA wants to lower the cost of racing in the WRC then they need to in act a 5 year development rule. Meaning after all the manufactures have spent the money to develop and test a car for new rules, once the new rules are active (like what is suppose to happen in 2010) there is a minimum period of 5 years before the rules can be changed. The cars aren’t that expensive to build, it’s the development and testing that runs the price tag up so much. Something the FIA has done quite often over the past ten years…
Sorry, no BS here….. :)
I dont think one year is classed as a very long time. Certainly not in terms of the WRC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Torsen
The problem is not only are they behind on pace/development etc, but they dont have any reliability - which comes from testing - and no testing comes from a lack of funds. It's been a poor effort without doubt, but I still cant decide whether it was brave or stupid to come into the WRC as a manufacturer at this stage. Surely they would have been better waiting for the new regs and a clean sheet of paper rather then trying to go up against 3 established rallying marques (at a time when even Subaru cant design a car worth a damn).
They should go away, lick their wounds, learn from their (many) mistakes and come back when the playing field is more level.
Stormont confirmed to launch WRC 09
http://rallybuzz.stagetimes.com/stor...-the-2009-wrc/
ISC plan WRC street style demos for 09
http://rallybuzz.stagetimes.com/wrc-...trations-2009/
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Originally Posted by c4
Let's hope for a try on a WRC event soon !!! :)
This year's GB perhaps?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom206wrc
Maybe in cooperation with: http://www.bavariacityracing.nl/EN/ ;)Quote:
according this info, shipping costs for the 207 were too highQuote:
Originally Posted by Tom206wrc
so the mitsubishi was hired
http://rallybuzz.stagetimes.com/patr...-zealand-2008/
Well, If Suzuki plans for S2000+, then it's not all lost. Very valuble experience, and and real competition testing. I know testing without knowing the new regulations doesn't make much sense, but I think they had close guess, and thy have identified many weeknesses of the car, which i always beneficial for first time car in WRCQuote:
I dont think one year is classed as a very long time. Certainly not in terms of the WRC.
The problem is not only are they behind on pace/development etc, but they dont have any reliability - which comes from testing - and no testing comes from a lack of funds. It's been a poor effort without doubt, but I still cant decide whether it was brave or stupid to come into the WRC as a manufacturer at this stage. Surely they would have been better waiting for the new regs and a clean sheet of paper rather then trying to go up against 3 established rallying marques (at a time when even Subaru cant design a car worth a damn).
They should go away, lick their wounds, learn from their (many) mistakes and come back when the playing field is more level.
Let's hope that someone who is entitled gets the drive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom206wrc
I would rather see someone like Meeke or Hänninen. Those dudes could deliver from the first race. Ogier is still mystery, he could be really good or something like new-Sordo - full mediocrity with wrc car on gravel.
Andreas Mikkelsen says Citroen will test 4 drivers (11 Sept.?),
so Andreas and ???
Mikkelsen (talent and money to run the car),
Ogier (talent and support from FFSA and Citroen)),
Aigner (Red Bull money and title sponsor for MT2 ?)
Aava (talent and already expierence)
? my 4 toughts
Aava, Rautenbach and Ogier maybe..
Aava, Ogier and Mikkelsen are definates I'd have thought.
Rautenbach, Aigner and Vouilloz are the other names I've heard mentioned.
I cant imagion that Citroen wants to evoluate Rautenbach. He has not shown a decent result. Not decent for Citroen that is. Ford thinks he has done a perfect job earlier this year :)
I think that Citroen will hire Ogier and then they will wait for the turist with the highest bid for the 2nd car
Aava deserves a seat as his pace is top-class - but like JML, he cant finish!
I'd prefer to see Mikkelsen at Ford or in Subaru's 2nd team with Ostberg.
Your right about Rautenbach - forgot the Jordan incident!
Aigner is prob the best bet of the those three with his Red Bull backing. Conrad isn't good enough and Vouilloz as much as I like him isn't either.Quote:
Originally Posted by pettersolberg29
I recall that Colin (WRR) said at Rally Argentina, that the Red Bull deal that Citroën signed would involve Aigner in the future, so I expect the PH-Sport M2 team for 2009 to have 3 drivers (a little like Stobart).
1.) Aava to score points for all rounds.
2.) Aigner to score points for all rounds.
3.) Rautenbach only to score points if any of the above aren't participating.
4.) Ogier only to run on selected events on his first year with a WRC car.
I don't see Mikkelsen in a Citroën...
Ostberg has had successful corrective laser eye surgery :)
http://rallybuzz.stagetimes.com/mads...reatment-oslo/
My father is an ophtalmologist and it's not a big deal surgery, it's quite easy and safe..Quote:
Originally Posted by c4
Great to see that Mats had it. There many names in the WRC that had it, like Timo Rautiainen in 2002. Who's next in line? Maybe Latvala, he has almost always driven with glasses.
Sorry guys.It looks like I have missed something.But what Duval doing in New Zealand?Is he going to change Gigi for Stobart?
Yes, he is. For sure this rally and maybe in Japan and Wales too. Duval is also nominated for the factory BP Ford Abu Dhabi World Rally Team in Catalunya en Corsica.Quote:
Originally Posted by dumb
According to this (sorry for not translating, maybe someone else have the time.)
Det er duket for en spennende duell når STCC-sirkuset kommer til Vålerbanen. Norges rallyprins Andreas Mikkelsen har bestemt seg for å måle krefter mot en ekte prins. I en innleid Porsche skal konkurrere mot prins Carl Philip av Sverige.
Prins Carl Philip har valgt å satse på en racingkarriere, og denne sesongen deltar han i den populære Porsche Carrera-cupen. Når STCC-sirkuset kommer til Norge 13. og 14. september er rallytalentet Andreas Mikkelsen klar for å gjøre en gjesteopptreden i en Porsche Carrera GT3 RS.
– Dette blir noe helt annet enn å konkurrere på skogen. Jeg har ikke mye erfaring med asfaltracing, så dette gjør jeg først og fremst for å ha det gøy. Det er vanskelig å si hvor bra jeg kan gjøre det, men det hadde vært moro å slå svenskeprinsen, innrømmer Andreas Mikkelsen med et smil.
Den svenske turboprinsen har tidligere uttalt at han gleder seg til å kjøre billøp i Norge, og han synes helt sikkert at det blir ekstra spennende å konkurrere mot Andreas, som er en av de mest talentfulle rallysjåførene i verden.
– Jeg har aldri tidligere kjørt Porsche på bane og gleder seg til å få muligheten. Jeg tar dette som en morsom avkobling fra rallykjøringen, sier Andreas, som kommer til Våler rett fra test med Citroëns VM-team.
– Det kommer til å bli noen hektiske dager, men moro blir det, slår han fast.
Andreas is going to drive in the Carrera Cup Scandinavia the weekend 13 - 14 september, right after he has arrived home from a test with the Citroen World Rally team
Oh yes.Thanks for info.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wim_Impreza
It is duket for an exciting duel at STCC-circus is coming to Vålerbanen. Norway's rallyprins Andreas Mikkelsen has decided to measure the forces against a real prince. In a hired Porsche to compete against Prince Carl Philip of Sweden.
Prince Carl Philip has chosen to take a chance on a racingkarriere, and this season he is participating in the popular Porsche Carrera Cup. When the STCC-circus is coming to Canada 13. and 14. september is rallytalentet Andreas Mikkelsen ready to make a gjesteopptreden in a Porsche Carrera GT3 RS.
-- This will be something else than to compete in the forest. I do not have much experience with asfaltracing, so that's what I first and foremost to have fun. It is difficult to say how well I can do it, but it was fun to beat svenskeprinsen, Andreas Mikkelsen admits with a smile.
The Swedish turboprinsen has previously stated that he's excited about to run racing in Canada, and he seems quite certain that it will be exciting to compete against Andreas, which is one of the most talented rallysjåførene in the world.
-- I have never previously run the Porsche on the path and excited to have a chance. I take this as a fun, relaxation from rallykjøringen, "says Andreas, who came to Våler straight from the test with Citroën World Cup team.
-- There will be a few hectic days, but the fun is it, he shut down fast
Your translator translate Norge (Norway) to Canada, ok maybe same climate but.... :D
I used Google translation. Mikkelsen was called a Swede bij Eurosport. So Norway is the United Nations of the rallyworld. :)
Ogier covered 125 miles in his C4 test and described the car as easier to drve than he expected
http://rallybuzz.stagetimes.com/seba...-test-a-dream/
About Deivydas Jocius and Xsara WRC project.
This is from his lips.He said at the interview in rally Aukštaitija in Lithuania last weekend.So he said that he won't run WRC this year.Mainly reason is co-driver changing.Kastytis Torrau won't run in rally anymore so Deivydas now run with Kastytis brother Marius Torrau.
Deivydas said that this year he will try to speak with his new co-driver and try to learn how to run with him.He said that he don't want do this at WRC rally.His plans are about next year.He said that he will do some rallies near Lithuania (personaly I think that is Finland,Poland and some more).He didn't said how many rallies he will do.At the end of this season team will choose rallies to go.Deivydas said that next season he won't run in Lithuania championship.So that thing lets to guess that he will do many rallies in WRC calendar.
Personaly I think that one thing in this project isn't good.The car.Next year car will be quite old and Jocius won't be very fast against drivers who are racing now in WRC.
About Deivydas Jocius and Xsara WRC project.
This is from his lips.He said at the interview in rally Aukštaitija in Lithuania last weekend.So he said that he won't run WRC this year.Mainly reason is co-driver changing.Kastytis Torrau won't run in rally anymore so Deivydas now run with Kastytis brother Marius Torrau.
Deivydas said that this year he will try to speak with his new co-driver and try to learn how to run with him.He said that he don't want do this at WRC rally.His plans are about next year.He said that he will do some rallies near Lithuania (personaly I think that is Finland,Poland and some more).He didn't said how many rallies he will do.At the end of this season team will choose rallies to go.Deivydas said that next season he won't run in Lithuania championship.So that thing lets to guess that he will do many rallies in WRC calendar.
Personaly I think that one thing in this project isn't good.The car.Next year car will be quite old and Jocius won't be very fast against drivers who are racing now in WRC.
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Originally Posted by pettersolberg29
Vouilloz :eek:
I'd prefer him to stay in IRC with Peugeot :mark:
Yes, thats where he belongs. IRC!!!!