Donkey of the Race (Canada GP Edition)

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Originally Posted by markabilly

No I think it is his mouth. he is always running off at the mouth, like yesterdays comments about his winning the pole. It just rubbs some the wrong way.

As for myself, I am delighted as it gives me plenty of material to work with. And here is the prime example: Yesterday he is off bragging about his own abilities and how much better he was than anyone else at dealing with conditions.

Might be true about his skills, but when anyone talks like that about themselves, they just ask for a negative response. Better to let someone form the team say it, while he remains all humble and happy

And speaking of same, from that same set of comments comes this:

"For me, more of a concern is the safety cars that there probably will be tomorrow, and not getting caught out like some of the drivers were last year. I know Fernando was caught out, and in the last few years Juan Pablo Montoya came out of the pits with the red light, and also Felipe (Massa) last year."


So the stoppage of cars should have been NO surprize to Mr. Hamilton, but rather than to come right out and say, "gee i can not believe this happened, etc" it is: "IF I cost Kimi the race" and so on.

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Amen to that.

I never really really liked Schumacher (the good one) because he was always a little arrogant. It wasn't so much his words but the tone he sometimes used. But then again when a guy has that many titles I think he deserves to be a little arrogant.

But Hamsandwich hasn't won a title and he's made some pretty schoolboyish errors and yet he comes across as someone who's won a few titles already and is a well established name in the sport. I simply don't like this and neither do others. Hamilton is that new friend in your group of friends who starts calling everyone by their nickname rather than getting to know them first. All the other guys out there have let their achievments do the talking before talking themselves up. Hamsandwich has the attitude of a Schumacher but the achievements of a Coulthard. Not cool.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Hamsandwich has the attitude of a Schumacher but the achievements of a Coulthard. Not cool.

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:rotflmao:

I will however contradict you, Schumacher never had such an attitude.

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Originally Posted by ioan

:rotflmao:

I will however contradict you, Schumacher never had such an attitude.

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Well not quite as bad. But he was still arrogant at times ;)

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Not cool.

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damn right sweet cheeks :laugh:

Although having reviewed the situation I nominate Alonso El Asno for pretending it was his gearbox when he pure and simple lost it :p :


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Originally Posted by donKey jote

damn right sweet cheeks :laugh:

Although having reviewed the situation I nominate Alonso El Asno for pretending it was his gearbox when he pure and simple lost it :p :


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yes that was a funny one.

Hamilton of course, which is a shame because on pace he had this race sown up.

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Originally Posted by donKey jote

damn right sweet cheeks :laugh:

Although having reviewed the situation I nominate Alonso El Asno for pretending it was his gearbox when he pure and simple lost it :p :


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I guess he deserves a nomination for that ;) Personally I would have blamed the coriolis effect myself.

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Originally Posted by ioan

:rotflmao:

I will however contradict you, Schumacher never had such an attitude.

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MS tended to convey a certain smugness at times, but then at other times, he had a habit of doing his best to be humble, give recognition to team and all, but when as a rookie, Hamilton announced that "I am cooler than Kimi.....", well now, Can u walk the walk?, and we saw the answer to that one.....

And I do not really recall MS verbally insulting other drivers like LH ....


Yesterday, it was how he deserved pole because he had the ability to adopt to conditions that no one else had, and then as to add even more insult to the talents of his fellow drivers, rather crudely implied that he was not worrying about them overcoming raod conditions by saying :""For me, more of a concern is the safety cars that there probably will be tomorrow, and not getting caught out like some of the drivers were last year. I know Fernando was caught out, and in the last few years Juan Pablo Montoya came out of the pits with the red light, and also Felipe (Massa) last year.""

Well he appears to have grounds to be smug this time, for he was sure right about needing to be watching out for that nasty old SC and that red light, :eek: now was he not?

Never drink your own kool aid until after you have won it all, and retired!!!

Lewis.

And don´t ask why because all of us agree.

Here's how a level headed person talks after today's race:

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"It's hard to express my feelings after a race like this," he said. "On the one hand, I am disappointed because, without my refueling problem, I could have been fighting for a place on the podium.

"On the other hand, I am happy to have brought home four points at the end of a very difficult race run on a track surface that was in really poor condition.

"Once I found myself at the back, I tried to climb back up again, but in the end, when I was behind Glock, I could not get past him and also I didn't want to run the risk of ending up off the track after all the trouble I'd been to to get that far.

"I would like to congratulate Kubica and BMW: they worked really well and deserved this success. They are very strong, but I think we are working in the right direction, as could be seen from our performance level every day here."

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Link:http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/68148

I'll respect Lewy the day he'll be able to talk like this. Till then...

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Originally Posted by ioan

Here's how a level headed person talks after today's race:



Link:http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/68148

I'll respect Lewy the day he'll be able to talk like this. Till then...

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Coudn't agree more. Those are the words of two very good drivers and two respectable drivers. So Massa had problems refuelling so he had to come back in? Makes sense now.

P.S I thought you were off to bed? :p

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Originally Posted by Daniel

:up:

Coudn't agree more. Those are the words of two very good drivers and two respectable drivers. So Massa had problems refuelling so he had to come back in? Makes sense now.

P.S I thought you were off to bed? :p

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I was still looking for the Ferrari drivers comments on the race and when I found them I thought hat it was worth posting, just to put a bit of perspective on Lewy's behavior. ;)

Off to bed now! :D

Alonso for spinning and then having the gall to tell his crew over the radio that it was his gearbox.

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Originally Posted by markabilly

MS tended to convey a certain smugness at times, but then at other times, he had a habit of doing his best to be humble, give recognition to team and all, but when as a rookie, Hamilton announced that "I am cooler than Kimi.....", well now, Can u walk the walk?, and we saw the answer to that one.....

And I do not really recall MS verbally insulting other drivers like LH ....


Yesterday, it was how he deserved pole because he had the ability to adopt to conditions that no one else had, and then as to add even more insult to the talents of his fellow drivers, rather crudely implied that he was not worrying about them overcoming raod conditions by saying :""For me, more of a concern is the safety cars that there probably will be tomorrow, and not getting caught out like some of the drivers were last year. I know Fernando was caught out, and in the last few years Juan Pablo Montoya came out of the pits with the red light, and also Felipe (Massa) last year.""

Well he appears to have grounds to be smug this time, for he was sure right about needing to be watching out for that nasty old SC and that red light, :eek: now was he not?

Never drink your own kool aid until after you have won it all, and retired!!!

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Amen to that :) I wonder if Hamilton will blame this on all those back of the grid monkeys :)

Lewis
Rosberg
Several strategists.

Sutil owes Lewis for this one. Shyte happens and Lewis had a lapse.

:)

Just found this quote from Kubica

"I have to be grateful to Lewis as he chose Kimi and not myself."

LOL

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Originally Posted by truefan72

it is amazing how some on this forum cannot see the bias in their own comments. I think a good number of you out there feel so because LH is black plain and simple.

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:rolleyes:

My ignore list keeps growing.

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Originally Posted by markabilly

No I think it is his mouth. he is always running off at the mouth, like yesterdays comments about his winning the pole. It just rubbs some the wrong way.

As for myself, I am delighted as it gives me plenty of material to work with. And here is the prime example: Yesterday he is off bragging about his own abilities and how much better he was than anyone else at dealing with conditions.

Might be true about his skills, but when anyone talks like that about themselves, they just ask for a negative response. Better to let someone form the team say it, while he remains all humble and happy

And speaking of same, from that same set of comments comes this:

"For me, more of a concern is the safety cars that there probably will be tomorrow, and not getting caught out like some of the drivers were last year. I know Fernando was caught out, and in the last few years Juan Pablo Montoya came out of the pits with the red light, and also Felipe (Massa) last year."


So the stoppage of cars should have been NO surprize to Mr. Hamilton, but rather than to come right out and say, "gee i can not believe this happened, etc" it is: "IF I cost Kimi the race" and so on.

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+1.

Oh, and truefan72........ you sir are a knob.

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Originally Posted by Sleeper

Hamilton of course, which is a shame because on pace he had this race sown up.

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really?

Why was he losing nearly a second per lap to Kimi leading into the stops? And if the race was sown up, why was he leaving pitlane in 3rd?

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Originally Posted by truefan72

It is clear that LH brings out a visceral reaction from many around here who simply have a straightforward bias to a young proud black driver achieving his life's dream in the pinnacle of racing.

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Lewis is black???? I just thought he was blind!!! ;)

I'm amazed at all the venomous comments towards Rosberg for driving in the back of another driver. It's a car race for goodness sake, people mess up.

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Originally Posted by truefan72

it is amazing how some on this forum cannot see the bias in their own comments. I think a good number of you out there feel so because LH is black plain and simple.

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WTF? :confused:

I'm nominating Lewis because he screwed up an elementary procedure when the race was his for the taking, not because of ANY other factor.

I'm also nominating Nico for doing the same thing - any comments to make about his ethnic origin or am I allowed to say Rosberg?

Unbelievable.

bourdais... because I'm not a racist.

Hamilton.

For a change I was in awe of him after his amazing pole lap on saturday where he locked up at the hairpin but still managed to improve his time!

But yesterday was hilarious.

Ron Dennis saying "its difficult for drivers to look at other cars or lights at the same time" is even more hilarious.
They are in F1 for *** sake.
If they can't look at these things and judge it, they should be driving taxis.

ps : Racism has nothing to do with my dislike of Hamilton..I am black or brown if you prefer :)

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Originally Posted by osg

really?

Why was he losing nearly a second per lap to Kimi leading into the stops? And if the race was sown up, why was he leaving pitlane in 3rd?

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He was in a clear lead before the safety car appeared. Huh, you are surprised that Kimi caught him behind the SC, so they entered the pits very close to each other? And the order of leaving the pits was very much down to pitcrew work, not any driver's speed. I think without safety car sessions Hamilton's win would have been very probable.

jens the point is, sure he was quick earlier and leading but at the time he crashed out he would have been 3rd correct?

Not really clear that he would have won the race from that position "easily"

Stop trying to live vicariously through Lewis Hamilton. Some of the anger directed at him is pathetic to read.

Sure, he stuffed up and he's certainly worthy of the donkey of the race title, but I don't see how the phrase "I apologize if I cost him the race" isn't an apology. Since he certainly stuffed Kimi's race, that statement is an apology. Admittedly it's not a very good one, but he should be saving that sort of stuff for Kimi, not for the legions of people waiting to pounce on his every word and punish him for not being a bland PR focused driver.

Edit: I should add that this isn't focused on any one person in particular.

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Originally Posted by Storm

jens the point is, sure he was quick earlier and leading but at the time he crashed out he would have been 3rd correct?

Not really clear that he would have won the race from that position "easily"

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This is true! :up:

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Originally Posted by Storm

Ron Dennis saying "its difficult for drivers to look at other cars or lights at the same time" is even more hilarious.

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He shouldn't have a road driving license then! There are way morey cars and lights out there! ;)

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Originally Posted by jens

He was in a clear lead before the safety car appeared. Huh, you are surprised that Kimi caught him behind the SC, so they entered the pits very close to each other? And the order of leaving the pits was very much down to pitcrew work, not any driver's speed. I think without safety car sessions Hamilton's win would have been very probable.

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His lead went from 7.x seconds to 5.x seconds even before the SC made it's appearance, both Kimi and Robert were closing on on him at a fast rate. So his win was not that probable.

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Originally Posted by cosmicpanda

but I don't see how the phrase "I apologize if I cost him the race" isn't an apology.

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For me that isn't an apology is the proof of lack of brain as it was obvious that he DID cost Kimi the race!

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Originally Posted by ioan

So his win was not that probable.

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Originally Posted by ioan

it was obvious that he DID cost Kimi the race!

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So it was not probable that Hamilton would win, but it was obvious that Raikkonen would :confused:

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Originally Posted by gloomyDAY

Lewis.

Carry on.

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All the way :up:

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

So it was not probable that Hamilton would win, but it was obvious that Raikkonen would :confused:

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Costing someone the race is about destroying his chance to win or destroying his chances to race at all?! :confused:

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

So it was not probable that Hamilton would win, but it was obvious that Raikkonen would :confused:

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What you have to remember is that ioan is mature enough to change his mind depending on evidence. The fact that this opinion can change within a couple of sentences is commendable and has nothing to do with any preconceived bias or favouritism :p :

I am pretty sure its more related to semantics of the language Knockie...
Costing a race = generally someone who is winning is not able to...like Arrows said but ioan interpreted as ruining his race not necessarily costing his win. :)

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Originally Posted by truefan72

it is amazing how some on this forum cannot see the bias in their own comments. I think a good number of you out there feel so because LH is black plain and simple.

It is clear that LH brings out a visceral reaction from many around here who simply have a straightforward bias to a young proud black driver achieving his life's dream in the pinnacle of racing.

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The good old race card. When you have nothing else, always use that.
The moment someone uses that, it says all I need to know about that individual.


I admit I discriminate against a certain group of people at times. Yep, I admit it. I discriminate. I just can`t get over the dislike I have for stupid people. :rotflmao:

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Originally Posted by Storm

I am pretty sure its more related to semantics of the language Knockie...
Costing a race = generally someone who is winning is not able to...like Arrows said but ioan interpreted as ruining his race not necessarily costing his win. :)

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Thanks for clearing that up Storm! :)

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Originally Posted by Storm

I am pretty sure its more related to semantics of the language Knockie...

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Semantics such as the use of the word "if" which seems to be causing so much consternation today :p ;)