CMR2 Rally d'Italia Sardegna

Marcel finishes rally Italia. This was a very good rally for us. For the first time this year we got some descent recce and got ourselves familiar with the mirrored stages again. We could really attack on the stages of the rally and found a good rhythm within a few stages. We made only one big mistake on day 1 and some minor ones on both days as it is easy to overshoot a corner and loose a lot of time getting the car around the corner when missing the apex. After all, it was a good rally and we hope to extend the lead in the WC again. We're looking forward for the next rally which will take place on somehow comparable stages and surface type.

I planned to do the rally yesterday evening but after a few test runs I got cramp in my left hand (the one I use for accelerating, braking and shifting up) and could not drive more than one sector of any stage before having to stop because of the pain. I'll try again tonight and hope my times will still be accepted if I manage to complete the rally. Maybe I should try a different keyboard layout...

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Originally Posted by Zes

..so he refused to continue after SS8: "I'm fed up with this car!" He also pointed that he will move to Ford, if things are not getting better...

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A future Marcus Grönholm in the making perhaps :D

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Originally Posted by tannat

Would each of you who submit times please let me know what patform and what controller (i.e. wingpad, keyboard, wheel etc) you are using?

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i use a PC with regulation spec keyboard

I have now finished the rally for Frozz Motors Europe! I made an interview directly after the finish, here it is!

J.Lindstroem, Where have you been?
In the rally of Mexico i was injured by a cactus, i managed to finish the rally with a very bad result and i had to withdraw from Argentina and Jordan! The cactus was actually stuck in my ass for two months, it still hurts a bit but i'm ok!

How does it feel to be back?
It feels really good to be back behind the wheel. After two missed rallies i thought i was going to be a little bit off my own pace so to say, but i found the speed and it felt like i was back directly after the Shakedown. But yeah, it feels good off course!

What are you hopes for this rally and the future?
Now after not scoring points in a while i hope for a points finish, just to try to be in touch. In the comming rallies off course i will try to raise the pace and try to push even more, i think i havn't seen my own limits now. I want to be on the podium!

Thank you J.Lindstroem and good luck!
Thank you too, have a great day!

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Originally Posted by JTLarsen

A future Marcus Grönholm in the making perhaps :D

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Yeah. I can see some similarities...

to Tannat: I'm driving with laptop's keyboard (aut. gearshift, left hand braking)

I completed the rally yesterday, paying extra attention to keeping my hand as relaxed as possible paid off. Unfortunately when doing a full rally my PC has problems with maintaining frame rate, even at lowest detail levels. This is especially the case on stages with lots of trees and because the frame rate changes from stage to stage it's always difficult to adapt to it at the beginning of each stage. Very annoying because the problem is much less severe when choosing a single stage.

Overall I'm quite happy with my rally, except for the performance on the second stage of both days. On the first day I was just sloppy (but I can at least partly blame it on the PC related lag issues at the start of the stage causing me to go very wide a few times) but on the second day I went off on a straight totally unnecessarily sending me into the bushes. That incident apart I only clipped a tree hard on stage 8. I managed to stay away from trees and ravines for the remainder of the rally and on the stage I didn't like most, stage 4, I set a personal best on both days.

I am confident I am closer to the drivers fighting for the final points positions than on previous rallies. Maybe I can even improve on my best single stage result of 7th that I managed once in Argentina. But because of the strength of the other competitors I doubt that elusive first point for Curtans RallyBase Motorsport will arrive on this rally.

Next stop the Jim Clark International for the BRC, and then it's time for Greece :)

By the way, has anyone seen our beloved but sorely missed team principal Magnus lately? The mechanics are really starting to miss his sudden outbursts of swearing when things didn't go his way and his juicy stories of the times he went 'clubbing' with his good friend Max.

And to complete tannat's survey: I'm on PC with keyboard (using both left-hand braking and left-hand accelerating, and fully right-hand steering) and manual gearbox.

Is there anyone else using manual gearbox on PC and having problems with shifting gears on the superspecials? I usually have to press the shift up button twice or even three times before the change actually takes place...

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Originally Posted by kabouter

Is there anyone else using manual gearbox on PC and having problems with shifting gears on the superspecials? I usually have to press the shift up button twice or even three times before the change actually takes place...

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Yes, i have this problem as well. It is a problem every PC player has when driving the SSS in rally mode (in single stage or time trial there is no problem at all). Unfortunately, I don't know of any solution for this problem...

slight problem guys...

I haven't received Homer's timecard and there's a problem with J.Lindstroem one, basically the rules stays the same, they have 24 hours from now to solve the problem, but I won't have time to work on the resuls tomorrow and on Saturday so results will be up on Sunday.
sorry for the inconvienence

Jso1985 has finished the rally

"Once again the lack of recce gave us lots of problems, tuning-up the car on day 1 doesn't do any good with the times we set, still we feel we did a decent job and we're hoping to get on the points again"

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Originally Posted by jso1985

slight problem guys...

I haven't received Homer's timecard and there's a problem with J.Lindstroem one, basically the rules stays the same, they have 24 hours from now to solve the problem, but I won't have time to work on the resuls tomorrow and on Saturday so results will be up on Sunday.
sorry for the inconvienence

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sorry for this guys, i will fix me timecard at once!!

sorry i dont know whats wrong with the timecard so i can't fix it. and i can't get a new one cause i lost my password. i really don't know what i should do, jso1985, can i send you a list with the times instead or something?

maybe its just a excel version problem. which version are you running, J.Lindstroem?

Hmm....I did email it. Let me try again!!

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Originally Posted by J.Lindstroem

sorry i dont know whats wrong with the timecard so i can't fix it. and i can't get a new one cause i lost my password. i really don't know what i should do, jso1985, can i send you a list with the times instead or something?

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Feels free to send your times to me and I'll submit them for you..

No worries-I submitted on Monday ;)


Tannat

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Originally Posted by tannat

Feels free to send your times to me and I'll submit them for you..

No worries-I submitted on Monday ;)


Tannat

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Thank you very much, but it should be sorted out by now! Looking forward to see the results on sunday!

still haven't received times from you Joel!
to avoid any further problem please send me your times(just a list of the stage times no need for a timecard) to a private message here, do it as soon as possible please.
thanks

Thanks everybody for your patience.
stage-by-stage results are now available at http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/...lly%20Results/

final results and standings will be posted here soon.

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1.- Marcel Haenen        ML Motorsports Citroën        46:28,11
2.- I am evil Homer        Red Bull Citroën Total Sport        46:48,96
3.- Juha                    Suzuki Motorsport        47:17,26
4.- Tannat        Suzuki Motorsport        47:50,52
5.- NOR          Two Basses Team Ford Europe        47:59,47
6.- Ramore        Subaru World Rally Team        48:34,49
7.- .Lindstroem        Frozz Motors Europe        48:48,06
8.- Kabouter        Curtans RallyBase Motorsports        49:01,49
9.- Jso1985        Red Bull Citroën Total Sport        49:06,68
10.- Zes        Peugeot Sport Finland        50:10,49
11.- DarkArchon        Ford Lietuva        50:14,82
12.- Dumb        Ford Lietuva        50:32,14
13.- JTLarsen        Two Basses Team Ford Europe        50:47,88
14.- Rat                    Red Bull Toyota        51:35,28
15.- Frozzy        Frozz Motors Europe        54:49,54
16.- Tuomo        Peugeot Sport Finland        DNF

Drivers standings
1.- Marcel Haenen        56
2.- I Am Evil Homer        50
3.- Tannat        23
4.- Juha        20
5.- NOR        19
6.- Cyborg_hun        17
7.- Ramore        13
8.- J.Lindstroem        12
9.- Steve0302        11
10.- Zes        5
11.- Jso1985        4
12.- JTLarsen        2
13.- PetterSolberg29        1
14.- Kabouter        1

Teams Standings
1.- ML Motorsports Citroën        73
2.- Red Bull Citroën Total Sport        54
3.- Suzuki Motorsport        43
4.- Two Basses Team Ford Europe        21
5.- Subaru World Rally Team        13
6.- Frozz Motors Europe        12
7.- ARB Racers        11
8.- Peugeot Sport Finland        5
9.- Expert Sport WRT        1
10.- Curtans RallyBase Motorsports        1

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thanks for participating, see you in Greece!

damn, can I stil disqualify J.Lindstroem for submitting late? :p

Thanks for posting the results. It was worth the wait, I scored my first point :D And congratulations to Marcel for bringing the victory to The Netherlands once again :up:

Curtans RallyBase Motorsport driver Kabouter was ecstatic after scoring the first ever point for the team: "We are really happy with this result. It was an excellent job getting our old Peugeot 206 up to speed. All our efforts in testing for this event paid off. We knew we would be much closer to the leading cars than on previous events, the Mediterranean gravel is really to our liking. But to set a 4th time on SS 10, beating even the respected Tannat who has been so helpful with his advice leading up to this event, exceeds even our wildest expectations. We admit this does add some pressure for the Acropolis Rally. We are sure that our rivals will want to strike back. The redoubtable Jso was only a few seconds behind us and he finished 4th in last year's Acropolis! But for now we are just going to party. If only our beloved team leader Magnus could be here to celebrate with us. Our thoughts go out to him, whereever he may be at this moment."

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Originally Posted by jso1985

damn, can I stil disqualify J.Lindstroem for submitting late? :p

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Can't you give him a 10 second penalty for every day he was late? ;)

Juha, could you please check your times on SS4,15 and specially SS9. You beat Group B world record there by 3sec, WRC record by 14sec. With respect to your skills, it seems strange. Btw in comparing with your other stages in this rally are these three times so outstanding. I don't want to blame you, just have a few years experience from different championships and possibly drive stage times, these three looks wrong little bit.

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Originally Posted by NOR

Juha, could you please check your times on SS4,15 and specially SS9.

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I have to agree, teammate. The times on these stages are a bit surrelaistic. Would be nice to see some sector times for these stages...


A good rally for us, inclusing one scratch time on SS14 :D

Where is cyborg_hun?

Suzuki Motorsport might be able to makje it into the top two if things continue in this fashion....

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Originally Posted by NOR

Juha, could you please check your times on SS4,15 and specially SS9.

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It's the Kilkis stage (ss4) and Kilkis reversed (ss9).

4.- Tannat Suzuki Motorsport 47:50,52
5.- NOR Two Basses Team Ford Europe 47:59,47


Another close one, friend :up: :beer:

Result is similar to driving.

Congrats to Kabouter, you were the fastest Peugeot :) Looks like I have lot to do before Acropolis... Wish there were more snow rallies with rain tyres...

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Originally Posted by jso1985

damn, can I stil disqualify J.Lindstroem for submitting late? :p

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yes you can haha! =)

Happy that I finish not last. Driving was with many mistakes and off's, so result is as it should be. I will try to improve my skills before Greece. Thanks for rally :)

Another close rally for some of us! I am really glad to win again after a series of wins for Homer. I needed this to release some of the pressure he was building. I hope te repeat this performance next week!

@Juha: stage times on ss4/ss9/ss15 are a bit fast. There is a certain point in that stage if you go off, you get 'teleported' to the roadsection just accross the valley gaining several seconds. Perhaps you went off there by accident (It is a very tricky corner)?

JSO said the same thing yesterday. Maybe I've mistyped it, I'll drive them again this afternoon to see if I can get near them again. :)

Congrats to Marcel :up: def the class of the field on nearly every stage. Hope to be challenging a bit more on the next event to keep that gap close!!!

Even with extra recce i'm not sure we could have even come close to Marcel though on those times he was just too good. Also nice to see the Suzuki's up there again!

sorry i didn't make this rally been really busy with uni work.
i've already started the recce for the next rally and hoping for a good points haul.
well done everyone that took part

OK, problem found. :D

I found my time sheet in the garbage box, the time on SS9 should be 2.52, not 2.32. When I write things down in a hurry, my 5's look like 3's and vice versa. That'll teach me to take care of my writing. :rolleyes:

The same thing happened on SS 4, it's not 39, it's 59. As I said in my report, I crashed off into something so I was slow on that stage. When I typed the times in excel, I had this:
2.39
2.50
That looked a bit stupid, knowing I crashed off on the first stage. So I presumed I had made a mistake with the SS 15 time, and made the 5 into a 4. It would have been a better idea to run it again and be sure what it should have been, or check the hotlaps site, instead of gambling with it. :dozey: And I never write my total time down, but that would have helped me here, so from now on I'll be doing that.

So this adds:
- 20 seconds on SS 4
- 20 seconds on SS 9
- 10 seconds on SS 15

That makes me 5th, behind tannat (damn :p ) and NOR.

4.- Tannat, Suzuki Motorsport, 47:50,52
5.- NOR, Two Basses Team Ford Europe, 47:59,47
3.- Juha, Suzuki Motorsport, 48:07,26

Sorry for the commotion. :o

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Originally Posted by Juha

OK, problem found. :D


That makes me 5th, behind tannat (damn :p ) and NOR.

4.- Tannat, Suzuki Motorsport, 47:50,52
5.- NOR, Two Basses Team Ford Europe, 47:59,47
3.- Juha, Suzuki Motorsport, 48:07,26

Sorry for the commotion. :o

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Still a fine run, Juha, especially in light of the amount of recce you put into it...

Driving V8s around Zandvoort won't improve your Greece times :p

Well I found a way to improve my times but you all say it's unreal. :p

But I'll make sure I finish in front of you in Greece. ;)

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Originally Posted by Juha

Well I found a way to improve my times but you all say it's unreal. :p

But I'll make sure I finish in front of you in Greece. ;)

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That's the team spirit :p