What kind of things? Share the secrets now Tomi... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
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What kind of things? Share the secrets now Tomi... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
There is no secrets, i mean drive coaching, introducing to right people, telling teams about the upcoming driver and other simular things.Quote:
Originally Posted by cal
How about Kalle Pinomäki.
Nowadays I think it’s not enough for the driver to be fast, he/she has also to be suitable. He/she has to be the right guy/girl for the job. What I mean, is that he/she can’t be a jerk with bad delivery because as I see it, the driver is also a member of the marketing team with all the promotions and taking part in the manufacturers, teams and sponsors customer relation happenings.
As Timo Jouhki said backing up a young driver need a commitment (and money) for several years.
I know what you mean. Thought you might have known something the rest of us didn't. The Finnish ex-drivers seem good at dealing with the right connections and help talents in that way - they should teach their Swedish counterparts a thing or two.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
I agree - you don't only have to drive better than the rest, you have to talk better too. Patrik Sandell is equally talented at this alongside his driving, he is a natural PR-man. Does Kalle Pinomäki still have Mad Croc as a sponsor? I noticed he had them last year, when he and Sandell drove for the same team - this year they're Sandell's new main partner.Quote:
Nowadays I think it’s not enough for the driver to be fast, he/she has also to be suitable. He/she has to be the right guy/girl for the job. What I mean, is that he/she can’t be a jerk with bad delivery because as I see it, the driver is also a member of the marketing team with all the promotions and taking part in the manufacturers, teams and sponsors customer relation happenings.
If the Swedish counterparts would not be so egocentric I'm sure there could be A Swede or two on top of the WRC.Quote:
Originally Posted by cal
Yes.
Norway, definently Mads Østberg. Mikkelsen is of course a talent but in rally Sweden 2008 I think Østberg little outpaced Mikkelsen. But in Norwegian National Championship they've fighted quite even, if I'm right?
Finland, Juho Hänninen at top but think if Juha Salo would be five years younger :D He would be the MAN. Still, I don't think it's too late for Salo to try WRC. Alen's also very promising if one looks his career's lenght.
Sweden, Sandell definently. Is he driving full PWRC this year? I'm looking for his efforts in NORF if Finnish N-group top-names take part in it also.
UK, I don't really know who but I really hope from the bottom of my heart that there would come someone :D It would be a real stimulate for WRC if we could get a superb driver from UK back again to the top after Burns and Colin. R.I.P.
And Matthew Wilson isn't the driver.
France, Sébastien Ogier. Very impressive pace on Mexico but it's too early to say anything outstanding of him. Gotta wait for couple of more JWRC-events.
Patrick Sandell has been excellent in his home soil but I haven't find his overall speed that impressive. I also wouldn't yet hype Ogier too much because there is huge level gap at jwrc.
Flodin seemed good two years ago but he has took some backward steps and is miles away from Hänninen or Alen.
yes, i expected more from him too, but now it looks that his development has stopped.Quote:
Originally Posted by Finni
Yes, he's doing the full PWRC in Peugeot Sweden's 207 S2000 and he's also doing the full JRC in a Super 1600 Clio for Interspeed, a Serbian team. He did Mexico but had lots of trouble, though he posted a few fastest stage times. I rank him higher than Flodin, as I'm sure most of you do. I agree with Flodin having gone backwards in his development, he's had his share of bad luck but all in all I don't think he has the speed right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by julkki
I'm looking forward to seeing Alén progress though.
And none can do that better than the Finns, that's why you have so many drivers competing in Rallying ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
But it's good to remember that the most important is a higly competitive national series on all levels, because witout skill there is really nothing to tell the teambosses about.Quote:
Originally Posted by pino
P.S. I remember a funny discussion with a Italian and an Aussie guy a few years back, on the way to Jyväskylä, their point was that Finnish rally is on the way down, if you look at signed workdrivers since then it does not look like that :)
Italian national series are second to none, unfortunately we don't have people like Timo Jouhki, you Finns should build a statue in his honor and put it in the center of Jyvaskyla :p : Still when Timo discover a talent he needs an italian Team ( Motoring at the moment ) to turn him into a title contender. Don't forget that both Hirvonen, Latvala (and now Ketomaa) almost started their career in Italy ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
If that italian happened to be myself, must have been because of those beers we had in the car :p :Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
We build every winter, but it melts when the summer comes. It's true they start their international carreer in Italy, and for that is a good reason too, the Italian motorpress is very good promotor for unknown drivers, and the series are easy enough to make good results.Quote:
Originally Posted by pino
Offcourse it was the beers, sorry I forgot :)
Italian Motoring makes good money giving rides to finnish talents so it's not all too altruistic ;)
Did I say that? :) Well you have to say that back in 2005 it wasn't looking as good as it does now. Before the used to be a seemingly unending supply of rally winning Finns and it seemed we only had one back then and who knows how much longer he was going to drive for. Perhaps it was all that beer I had :uhoh:
Yes propably the rootbeer :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Yeah that's the stuff :up: :beer:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
Australia is currently a fantastic breeding ground for young talent but at the moment, due to the demise of factory teams from the ARC, its very hard for young drivers to get anywhere that is financially viable.
Brendan Reeves (19) - first full season of gravel in 2007, did one tarmac rally and impressed by coming second on debut. Second privateer in ARC 2007 and I think fourth overall.
Glen Raymond - He is very fast, up and coming driver who unfortunately had a lot of issues with his car. He was unbelievably fast in 2006 with a very old Subaru Legacy RS, upgraded to a 1995 Impreza but had reliability issues but showed glimpses of brilliance. Now has a Toyota Corolla Sportivo NP so we should see him feature in the 2008 results.
Steve Glenney - Might be late 20s now but he is talented, very fast on both tarmac and gravel, always considered a dangerman at any rally. In the latest tarmac rally in Australia, Rally Tasmania, he beat tarmac "master" Jim Richards (Porsche 997 GT2) in an Evo 9 by over a minute over 3 days. Not bad considering the power difference!
Eli Evans - much the same as Glenney but has a year in the APRC (2006) and sometimes crashes but also very fast!
Paul Batten
Molly Taylor
In NZ there is a bloke called Haydon Paddon who is very quick, as well as Emma Gilmour (Glenn MacNeall's girlfriend!)
Looking at their web site I think Mad Croc is still a sponsor. I was watching the third round of the Finnish championship today, but I didn’t notice any Mad Croc decal on his car.Quote:
Originally Posted by cal
http://www.setpromotion.com/www/inde...vu=,,en_yritys
Some Brits to look out for in the next few years when hopefully there will be a bit of a level playing field and more manufacturer seats available. Tom Cave 16 who is supported by the Junior Rallying initiative and doing the Lithuanian championship in a Fiesta this year. Adam Gould the Fiesta shoot out winner and Connor Flynn who is also doing events in Lithuania this year.
In fact Tom Cave is doing Latvian not a Lithuanian championship ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by c4
And the others british young guns is looking toward to Latvia too - http://www.crash.net/motorsport/rall...ed_at_asi.html
You're right, should have said Cave's campaign was to commence on the Lukoil Winter Rally in Lithuania but the event was cancelled, then do the Latvian championship with Connor Flynn.Quote:
Originally Posted by sindroms
From The Netherlands there is Kevin Abbring. He will compete (some?) rallies in the JWRC this year in a Renault Clio N3. He is only 19 years old. Last year he won the Mitsubishi Colt Cup in The Netherlands and before that he won the Ford RST cup twice. He gets a lot of backing from the junior program as sponsorship and for training. However, a rally driver from The Netherlands is just hard to imagine. It will be very tough for him to reach a high level.