Daniel Elena

Meh.

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Originally Posted by A.F.F.

Are you guys creating a storm to the waterglass now ???

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That is exactly what this is :up:

i dont know if you remember, that Daniel was celebrating his 35th birthday on friday
i guess that this mistakes was because of huge hangover :s pin:, after b-day party :D :D :D not jet-lag or sth ;) ,

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Originally Posted by Mark

I was surprised just how mad Loeb was! Normally even if a driver is absolutely hopping crazy mad at his co-driver he won't say so, we would just say "it's one of those things"..

Does Elena go on TV complaining every time Loeb makes a mistake?

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Don't think he was that mad, just upset (and after a huge fight with Marcus all year and now at a crucial stage of the championship, who wouldn't be?) but just told it like it was. Remember that Daniel is trying to be World Champion also!

"Co-drivers can't win rallies, but they can sure lose them" :)

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Originally Posted by kakus

Not true.

Elena said 130 ++.
-- is for the next corner. No doubt ( I am french )

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right... i've checked cause we hear '--' before they go off. But it's for the next corner.
Dani said '130++'

When was that mistake Seb is talking about(the 10years ago one)?? Is that the one when they crash in the old looking Xsara? http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4uYyQqxo-YM

and for the records YES he says ++, Seb knows it right away he starts telling Daniel about it, even before the car stops http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=20ADXN9Y9wg

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Originally Posted by adambousbek

Hello I've just seen that Daniel Elena didn't mistake!!! In the onboard camera he said 130-- and no ++ like all people say!!!!I am sure I checked many time the video.

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I just checked it at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20ADXN9Y9wg

Daniel says "130 ++ mi-long tard ouvre, et ferme 130 -- plus long etc... " the 1st 130 should have been a --

So yes Daniel Made a mistake. They both acknowledge it so i dont really understand why there is confusion.

And yes Seb was not happy, but i understand his frustation. Anyway rallying is team work, you win and lose with your codriver, so whose mistake it is not important.

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Originally Posted by xavier

"130 ++ mi-long

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So it's "mi-long" that sounds like "Milou", the Tintin dog. I've been wondering.

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Originally Posted by jonkka

So it's "mi-long" that sounds like "Milou", the Tintin dog. I've been wondering.

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No.. Tintins dog is called Snowy.... Now that really would have confused things!.. but at least he'd have got round the corner. :D

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Originally Posted by jonas_mcrae

When was that mistake Seb is talking about(the 10years ago one)?? Is that the one when they crash in the old looking Xsara? http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4uYyQqxo-YM
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Seb said 1st mistake in 10 years, not 1st mistake for 10 years, similar but totally different statements.
Shiney tar/driver error caused the crash you mention