Obese? Don't worry, it's not your fault?

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Originally Posted by Mark

I had a cake today. Nothing else to say :p

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I bought 10 jam donuts and now there are only 2 left! :mark:

Thankfully it was my workmates that polished them off and not just me :p

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Originally Posted by Andrewmcm

I wonder if this idea could be extrapolated to drink-driving? If you drive past a pub then surely you aren't responsible for your actions of stopping, drinking 13 pints of lager and then tootling off home without a care in the world.

Let's face it, no-one's forcing the (adult) fatties to eat junk food all day and not exercise. The blame culture in this country appears to be "blame everyone except yourself". Saddening really.

And there's nothing much wrong in shaming people into accepting that they're overweight. Isn't that what a lot of those programmes on Channel 4 and 5 do? They put people's dietry intake for a week on a table to show them exactly how gross they are. And if you've watched those programmes, some of it really is a bit disgusting.*


*Note: "Dr" McKeith really is a phoney and her "science" in those programmes is nothing of the sort. Andrewmcm does not condone her scientific principles or research methods....

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Yes but such programs will always be voluntary.

Denying personal responsibility for obesity also encourages the government to eat into our basic rights. "If you guys are so stupid to get obese, we'll take care of you, raise taxes, etc."

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Originally Posted by jim mcglinchey

Like alot of things in life, taste in music, viewing habits etc you are subtley pushed one way or the other by the man and his pricing and marketing policies, and its the same with kids diet. For example, did anyone else notice how at the start of term alot of the supermarkets had great offers on giant packets of crisps and choco bars and alot of other crap thats so handy for kids lunches....how many parents on a budget can resist that?

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This is a very good point, as is schmenke's.

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Originally Posted by schmenke

I wonder how many "impulse" purchases would be made if these were replaced by a fruit stand? :mark:

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I very much would welcome that, I always seem to forget the fruits when they are in the front sections of the store, if there was an stand with individually packed fruits, I would more likely buy them over any Mars bar.

Having to use an overused modern-day cliche, at the end of the day it comes down to one word.....choice.

It is a persons choice to eat calorie packed, fat saturated, or sugar coated heartattacks in a box and to the degree they do. Look at the "You Are What You Eat" show with Dr Gillian McKeith. You may not like the scabby old bat's method of opening stuff up and just throwing it about when it can go to a starving kid in Somalia but you cannot deny the severity of the calorie intake of the people who come on is down to their choice when people like myself enjoy the same stuff but in much lower quantities. They didn't have to. Nobody made them.

I adore those chocolate covered doughnuts from The Bakers Oven bakery but I very rarely have them. Other than the odd indulgence now and again I would say I am very good with my choices. I am uncomfortable eating fried dinners like eggs, beans, chips etc. and I prefer not to have them, I rarely eat stuff like pasties, I don't buy and have fizzy drinks or cakes, I like home cooked stuff and a lot of healty stuff like yohurts, and have never had a large appetite. Do you know what I have for supper mostly during the week? Two Ryvitas; one with a savoury spread and on wich I have usually ham and a sweet one with a plain spread and on which I have grapes or sometimes strawberries.

Shame on those people.

Scabby old bat :laugh:

I'll have to remember that one SEATFreak :D Good insult ;) :p

Thank you. I aim to insult. :D :up:

Erm, sorry to interrupt the fattie bashing, but did anyone bother to think about the psychological aspects of obesity?? The fact that it isn't necessarily that obese people are uneducated morons??

Sorry to get heavy, but there are those for whom food is the same as alcohol to an alcoholic or crack to a smackhead and it really isn't that simple as saying 'just choose to put less crap in your gob', and some of the comments that have been made on here are exactly the kind of ones that may make people who are already in a cycle of self loathing depression, and eating feel even worse about themselves and make it even harder for them to make the changes that they desperately want to make. Think Anorexia in reverse. Its real, its just as dangerous, and it isn't something that should have preverbial taken out of it.

I am no longer one of the above type of people (YAY!). I am just a happy fattie! I have learned that if people want to judge me based on my weight, then so be it. Its their loss. I know that I am a good person who doesn't blame anyone else for her fatness, and I find it absurd that you think all fat people want to blame someone else!!!

I have a wonderful life: I live in a beautiful home in a lovely area of Scotland, I have a wonderful husband who loves and adores me and to whom I am completely devoted and in love with, a great job that I gain an awful lot of satisfaction from and that has a career ladder that I am climbing at pace, and all in all I couldn't be happier if I tried! So who are any of you to tell me that I shouldn't be?? And who are any of you to tell me I should be ashamed of that!!!!!!!!! I accept who I am for what I am, and do you know what? I would put money on me being a far happier person than a lot of my skinnier compatriates, because I have accepted that I am what I am, and that as long as I am happy with me, what other people think doesn't matter.

...and for the smarty pants that comes back with 'what about the strain people like you put on the health service?' I say this: with all the junk food I eat I pay a damn site more tax per mouthful than healthy people, so without people like me, the NHS would be even more underfunded wouldn't it! Therefore, because I am a smoker too and so almost single handedly pay for the NHS, I think I have the right to use it however much I like!!!!!

The one above is largely a very good post too, I must say.