FIA offical checking McLaren equality*Merged*

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Originally Posted by Dave Brockman

That's just what Jesus said, sir. :p

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What, blessed are the meek?

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

McLaren have consistently maintained, and shown equality of treatment towards their drivers. It is a central aspect of RD's running of the team.

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That's what McLaren claims. There are 2 of their drivers claiming otherwise.

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Originally Posted by OTA

Arrows, I agree that it's ridiculous many of the things have been doing in the past few years and this year was just the icing of the cake. I think this is just another smoke-screen to please Spanish media and the Spanish following of FA.
Bernie usually acuses FA of doing nothing to benefit F1, when he has actually build a share over 50% for most of his races in Spain. In China he got to 98%, and that to me it's definately more than nothing. And of course, Bernie or Max or whoever need to protect or at least look that they protect that nothing that FA has built.
I like things sorted out in the track and that's why I have a very high respect for LH. I had it from the beggining and while I don't think he's the Mesias, I do feel he's an extraordinary race driver. But what it doesn't seem right is that from Germany on no drivers are allowed to be craned back into the track, from Hungary on the FIA can enter into intra-team discussions, from Fuji on you must drive at a constant pace behind SC. 2 of this issues had an effect in the points LH won and we might argue, many people do, that those 2 incidents had more than a 4 point effect in standings.
They can simply not afford to have a tainted WDC, or at least to give that impression and having an official in the garage it's just a way to cover its butts. I agree with you that it's a bit odd, but I think it's the only way to give the impression of fairness.

Cheers
David

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I do feel very strongly that it appears that the tire pressure incident in China provoked this.
We must not forget however that at the time of the spy gate hearing that resulted in a $100 million fine and loss of wcc points. It was stated that McLaren could face more sanctions for the 2008 season if evidence that LH was given preferential treatment in the aftermath.
With a possibility of serious sanctions why would Ron not welcome this? As he has held very strongly (and I believe rightfully so) that they are not, or ever have given LH any advantage. Even if they PREFER that he wins.

When you say "tyre pressure incident" presumably you mean "tyre pressure allegations"? :)

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Originally Posted by Dave Brockman

When you say "tyre pressure incident" presumably you mean "tyre pressure allegations"? :)

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No I actully meant incident. That being inclusive of action, and suposition, or inferance, either imagined or real.

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)

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1. an individual occurrence or event.
2. a distinct piece of action, or an episode, as in a story or play.
3. something that occurs casually in connection with something else.
4. something appertaining or attaching to something else.
5. an occurrence of seemingly minor importance, esp. involving nations or factions between which relations are strained and sensitive, that can lead to serious consequences, as an outbreak of hostilities or a war: border incident; international incident.
6. an embarrassing occurrence, esp. of a social nature.
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Arrows the claim of equality by RD has the same value of FA claiming the opposite.

Cheers
David

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Originally Posted by Tazio

It was stated that McLaren could face more sanctions for the 2008 season if evidence that LH was given preferential treatment in the aftermath.

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The possible additional sanctions you mention had nothing to do with "preferential treatment" between McLaren drivers. It relates to whether there is evidence of Ferrari IP on McLaren's 2008 car. Although I admit it is a useful stick for Mosley to beat McLaren/Dennis with repeatedly whenever to mood takes him.

Why would Ron not welcome this? Well for one thing it's another attack on his team based on unfounded allegtions and gossip. For other, it's an action beyond the remit of the FIA, and totally unprecedented.

It seems that Max likes to respond to "requests" from national federations in particular circumstances.

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Originally Posted by ioan

That's what McLaren claims. There are 2 of their drivers claiming otherwise.

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Would one of those drivers be the same one that was throwing his toys out his pram last year and claiming that Renault didn't want him to win the title and was trying to stick it to him?

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

The possible additional sanctions you mention had nothing to do with "preferential treatment" between McLaren drivers. It relates to whether there is evidence of Ferrari IP on McLaren's 2008 car. Although I admit it is a useful stick for Mosley to beat McLaren/Dennis with repeatedly whenever to mood takes him.

Why would Ron not welcome this? Well for one thing it's another attack on his team based on unfounded allegtions and gossip. For other, it's an action beyond the remit of the FIA, and totally unprecedented.

It seems that Max likes to respond to "requests" from national federations in particular circumstances.

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Yes I stand corrected.
My memory isn't what it used to be. But I thought that there was a metion of a penalty in regard to this matter.

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Originally Posted by OTA

Arrows the claim of equality by RD has the same value of FA claiming the opposite.

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Sorry David, but we disagree. At the root of the this, I believe, is one of Alonso's few weakenesses - the inability to accept being beaten by a team-mate. It's something that has been commented on by Pat Symonds, and it has simply come to a head this season.

That, combined with Hamilton being a McLaren protégé, and the whole Spygate issue, has made McLaren, and F1, a hotbed of conspiracy theories, each of which is lapped up (and made up!) by the media.

That's what the FIA is responding to, and they shouldn't be. They are merely making things worse, and damaging F1 further in the process. They are doing Fernando no favours by responding to this "request" from the Spanish Federation, a Federation incidentally that has said they "think the treatment in this final race of the season will be the same, and that there will be equality for both drivers."