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I was about to say the same. He was very much on charge, until he crashed out. Though Auriol didn't seem to have his rally there.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
And who remembers that short interview with Kankkunen on the Portugal Rally earlier that year, when they asked him how these Toyota's where so powerfull these days, and Juha's clever response with the muscles and the little wink. Sure there was something more going on.
Well Juha always did like a bit of a joke though.
Just to remind some people, the turbo cheat (legally speaking) was't against the rules.
Obviously there was intention to overcome the restriction, but Toyota did it without braking the rules. In order words Toyota were baned based on their intention, no legal grounds.
This ban was the reason for Toyota to stop its WRC program, and they did it in stile, winning the manu title without turbo cheats. BTW, TTE were great professional team, building great cars, and great drivers. Toyota give the championship title to many rally legends. Too bad FIA had to punish them for its own mistakes and personal dislikes, something that they probably deeply regret now.
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Originally Posted by jparker
Bypassing the restrictor wasnt against the rules?.. Why bother trying to hide it then?
Toyota fan?
yes very silly statement. When ford had a sort of reserve air tank that was against the spirit of the rules but was still legal because the air went through the restrictor. Toyota's solution was highly illegal.
You should've asked, I posted the article on this forum already a couple of years ago. ;) :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
my apologies :p
Damn, that's a long time ago. I think it was Williams, Brabham and Lotus that used the system. I think they filled the brakes with water to keep the minimum required weight, but the water in the brakes evaporated very quickly allowing the cars to run under the required 600 kg(?) during the race. And when the cars came in for new tires, new water was added again. That way the car was at the right weight off track but below the right weight on track.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
I not 100% sure that was what happened, but it was something like that.
And I think the teams did it as a response to FISA favorising the manufacturer teams (Ferrari, Renault, Talbot Ligier and Alfa Romeo.)
But I am not 100% sure. As I said it's a long time ago. I remember that it was at the Brazilian GP that it was discovered, but I can't remember the year.
Was their not something floating around too about Lancia filling the fire extinguishers on the Integrales with N2O? Or was that just a rallying urban myth?
It was abused a bit more blatantly that suggested above. This happened in the midst of the FISA-FOCA wars in F1 in the early Eighties.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeD
Essentially they were regular air cooled brakes that had a water cooling system added to it by the FOCA aligned teams, Brabham & Williams in particular. Under the wording of the rules the car had to be weighed with all coolant & lubricants in the car. The water tank was filled before scrutineering to ensure correct minimum weight. Straight afterwards, the water was drained or sprayed out (but not over the brakes) over the initial laps & the brakes operated as normal air cool brakes.
At the time there was an interval between the end of race & post race scrutineering that allowed teams to refill the water reservoir to bring the car back up to minimum allowed weight. This was allowed because coolants & lubricants were able to be topped up.
The full nature of this system was discovered after the end of the 1982 Brazilan F1GP when FISA aligned Renault team, who came 3rd with Prost, protested against the FOCA aligned Brabham of Nelson Piquet (1st) & Williams of Keke Rosberg (2nd) for being under weight. Subsequently they were both disqualified but strangely none of the other FOCA cars who had the same system were.
All the FOCA teams appealed the decision but the FIA Court of Appeals took some time to hear the case. While the appeal was heard, FISA aligned Ferrari turned up at USGP with two rear wings, both of legal size & shape, because nothing in the rules stated you were only allowed one wing. Gilles was disqualified after finishing 3rd that day.
Brabham & Williams lost their appeals which led to all the FOCA based teams to boycott the 1982 San Marino grand prix in protest. It goes with out saying that this was a very ugly time in the sport.