Rally Hooliganism

It has to be said that I wasn't too pleased with the behaviour of some spectators, rude, loud in a bad way, leaving thrash everywhere, driving like idiots without due care among pedestrians...etc...

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Originally Posted by janneppi

It has to be said that I wasn't too pleased with the behaviour of some spectators, rude, loud in a bad way, leaving thrash everywhere, driving like idiots without due care among pedestrians...etc...

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I saw also bad behavior from some East country spectators! :(
Block parking roads, to lazy to walk?
Driving like idiots.
Leaving thrash everywhere.
Don´t lissen to officials!
Now respeckt for other cars.
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I think the problem is mainly alcohol. In Australia if you showed up to a stage even mildy "happy" you'd get turned away here (Still in Finland) it's just how it is. I'd be happy if they closed the borders from Russia and Eastern Europe and let people like Karmen and Jaanus in and no one else :) Sorry to be a bit racist but anyone who is here knows the problem is not people from Western Europe and even though there were a lot of drunk Finns they were generally OK :)

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Originally Posted by Brother John

I saw also bad behavior from some East country spectators! :(
Block parking roads, to lazy to walk?
Driving like idiots.
Leaving thrash everywhere.
Don´t lissen to officials!
Now respeckt for other cars.
......................etc....................... :confused:

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Welcome to Estonian rallys - this happens in a local rallys a lot! I'm ashamed...

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Originally Posted by Daniel

I think the problem is mainly alcohol. In Australia if you showed up to a stage even mildy "happy" you'd get turned away here (Still in Finland) it's just how it is. I'd be happy if they closed the borders from Russia and Eastern Europe and let people like Karmen and Jaanus in and no one else :) Sorry to be a bit racist but anyone who is here knows the problem is not people from Western Europe and even though there were a lot of drunk Finns they were generally OK :)

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There's more normal Estonians, but only idiots are getting to the news. I attended Otepää rally last month and i was ashamed how spectators were acting - like animals, arguing with marshals and disobeing rules! I'm very sorry for what happened! Finnish authorities should lock them away for a long time.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

I think the problem is mainly alcohol. In Australia if you showed up to a stage even mildy "happy" you'd get turned away here (Still in Finland) it's just how it is. I'd be happy if they closed the borders from Russia and Eastern Europe and let people like Karmen and Jaanus in and no one else :) Sorry to be a bit racist but anyone who is here knows the problem is not people from Western Europe and even though there were a lot of drunk Finns they were generally OK :)

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but how you know who is a "Karmen or Jaanus" and who isn't?

This kind of behaviour is absolutely shameful!!!! Rallying has enough problems and certainly doesnt need this added to them.I only hope that the authorities will get to the bottom of this mess....

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Originally Posted by jso1985

but how you know who is a "Karmen or Jaanus" and who isn't?

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Sadly that´s the rather obvious problem :)

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Originally Posted by jso1985

but how you know who is a "Karmen or Jaanus" and who isn't?

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Well, it's easy.

http://lh3.google.com/karmen.vesselo...I/IMG_0463.jpg

That's me (Karmen).
And Jaanus... he does not look like me at all, so you definitely recognise him.

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Originally Posted by jso1985

but how you know who is a "Karmen or Jaanus" and who isn't?

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Well unfortunately there are always some people who are drunk at rallies and their actions and behaviour will cause some problems. The true rally enthiusiasts are interested in rallying at events and don´t cause those problems which are related with violence, because they attend at many different rallies and they know what to expect and how to act at stages (at least most of them).