Raise the age of driving to 18

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Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow

The driving test should also be changed. They should be more specific and consistent over what is a the difference between a minor fault and serious fault, whilst implementing night driving and motorway driving on the test.

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Implementing a motorway test would be rather difficult for the many people who live nowhere near a motorway.

By the way, I don't see this or any government as being 'anti-driving' — just trying to deal with the very real problems that can be caused. Taking the Jeremy Clarkson view that 'they all hate us' doesn't get anybody anywhere; it just means a lot of heads get stuck in the sand. Some of the attempts to deal with problems are misguided, and some of the problems aren't even problems, but this is unavoidable.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

Implementing a motorway test would be rather difficult for the many people who live nowhere near a motorway
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Simple solution to that. If you haven't passed the motorway test, your license doesn't cover motorway driving.


But anyway I fail to see your point!
There are people who live miles away from towns, but they still have to drive to one to do their test :confused:

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Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow

THE FACT IS, OUR ROADS ARE PROBABLY THE SAFEST IN THE DEVELOPED WORLD!!!!

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Almost safest by 2005 numbers. :)

http://www.erf.be/images/stat/2007/2007_chap7.pdf

For example It shows that for UK there were
764 deaths (ages 18-25)
1208 deaths (ages 26-50)

Restricting engine size on its own is useless, there's plenty of small cars with little engines which are extremely rapid.

I don't believe in more restrictions, they penalise those who are capable of driving sensibly. Attitudes need to change, there's too many teenagers who believe they're invincible behind the wheel.

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Originally Posted by Dave Brockman

Restricting engine size on its own is useless, there's plenty of small cars with little engines which are extremely rapid.

I don't believe in more restrictions, they penalise those who are capable of driving sensibly. Attitudes need to change, there's too many teenagers who believe they're invincible behind the wheel.

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Ye olde spike on the steering wheel idea would work :)

With regards to some sort of motorway test that is what 'Pass Plus' does. By doing that you gain experience in motorway driving and other things. It also takes a chunk out of your insurance fee if you can prove you've done this.

I dont think raising the age to 18 is a good thing. Mainly because no matter how long you delay the age to start driving, they'll still be as inexperienced as they were at 17. The thing which I benefitted from was having the opportunity to have a pre-driving course at school which involved driving around the play ground learning clutch control and the correct procedures which need implementing during lessons and test. This also involved a number of theory lessons which showed the impacts of speed and idiocy.

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Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow

Simple solution to that. If you haven't passed the motorway test, your license doesn't cover motorway driving.

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How will the police check who isn't allowed to do motorway driving? They couldn't exactly stop every car at a checkpoint to see their licence could they? Perhaps they could fit the cars with a sensor and if it's on a sliproad for a motorway when the driver isn't qualified to be there, make some spikes pop out of the road..............

Raising the age won't make a blind bit of difference. Cars are so cheap to get hold of these days and I reckon a high percentage of the young idiots haring around towns and villages don't even have a licence.

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Originally Posted by Iain

How will the police check who isn't allowed to do motorway driving? They couldn't exactly stop every car at a checkpoint to see their licence could they? Perhaps they could fit the cars with a sensor and if it's on a sliproad for a motorway when the driver isn't qualified to be there, make some spikes pop out of the road..............
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Simple solution to that, why not use the green 'P' plates for people who have passed their test but haven't passed the motorway segment. ;)

Around here, people can obtain driving license at the age of 16 - but then until they are 18 and have re-taken the test, they can only drive with someone who has had the license for 2+ years sitting besides them. Hasn't made Estonian road traffic any less dangerous though.

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Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow

Simple solution to that, why not use the green 'P' plates for people who have passed their test but haven't passed the motorway segment. ;)

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People just won't wear their P plates then....