Farage v Clegg - EU debates.

So it seems to appear that UKIP have topped the EU polls here.

Thanks everybody. It does appear that the British population are all idiots.

I totally agree

Many other clowns did very well in other counties:
- Le Pen
- Beppe Grillo
- Tsipras :laugh:

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Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow

Thanks everybody. It does appear that the British population are all idiots.

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Quod erat demonstrandum......:devil: :p

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Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow

So it seems to appear that UKIP have topped the EU polls here.

Thanks everybody. It does appear that the British population are all idiots.

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Not all of them... just most of them... like in most in countries :p

The people are idiots, but due to their apathy. When voter turnout is less than 40% you can always expect the fringe parties to do well, if they mobilise their significant minority into voting. Voter apathy is the biggest threat to democracy, when you end up with a extreme party with dangerous views and ideas in a position of real power you cannot complain if you sat on your arse when the lunatics and lowest common denominators who are pandered to, do get out and vote. If the turnouts had been more like 80% and the results were the same then I'd be worried about the sanity of the whole populace. The only hope is when these people get some power and real exposure they expose themselves as the Ill informed bigots they are, but seeing as that's their core voter, it probably won't make that much difference.

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Originally Posted by Robinho

Voter apathy is the biggest threat to democracy, .....

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But what shall we do when we tried all posibilities and all politicians proved to be the same corrupted liars? Why should we bother to vote when nothing would change? I don't want to vote just for democracy's sake, I simply want a better life and none of our parties is able to help this.

To me, voting to prevent something bad, even if it's voting for something that you don't always agree with. There is always a protest vote, but if people get hold of that and attract a large protest vote you end up with a Farage or a Le Pen with some real power. Corruption is a real worry, and a lot of politicians seem to be neck deep into it. I'd like to think there is always standing on a anti-corruption ticket. The alternative is to get involved with your peers and start something yourselves. That's the whole point of the political process. I maintain apathy is a bigger threat to democracy than the corrupt behaviour of some of the politicians. There should be an effective method of removing those types.

There are serious issues all across Europe and many people are discontent.

But this is not an excuse to vote for clowns.

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Originally Posted by Robinho

I maintain apathy is a bigger threat to democracy than the corrupt behaviour of some of the politicians. There should be an effective method of removing those types.

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Yeah....I thought the same way. I was a dreamer......
That "some" of the politicians are the ones that make the rules in our parties.