Subjectively I would have to agree Schumacher has gradually improved each year since his comeback. Would he have matched Rosberg by the time he was 50 do you think ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by The Black Knight
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Subjectively I would have to agree Schumacher has gradually improved each year since his comeback. Would he have matched Rosberg by the time he was 50 do you think ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by The Black Knight
I think he has matched him this year. Take out the mechanical retirements this year and I'm pretty sure they'd be almost level on points, in fact, Schumacher might even be leading Rosberg.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyL
I also believe that people underestimate how good Rosberg is and I believe Lewis will have a tougher time next year than people realize. I also believe that next year is Rosberg's time to shine. It was a no win situation for him with Schumacher. Beating him meant he was simply beating an over the hill champion. Next year if he shows Lewis a hard time it will up his stock considerably.
I must admit that I consider it fairly respectless to label Rosberg a mediocre driver as a means to deliver the slur about Schumacher.
Everybody, who wins a Formula One race, especially in a car that is by no means a front-runner, can't be a mediocre driver. By that definition Kimmi would be an appalingly bad driver, considering that he has zilch victories this year, compared to the one victory of Maldonado and Rosberg respectively. And before someone jumps the gun - yes I do not consider Maldonado mediocre. He may drive as if he has his helmet on back-to-front, but that has more to do with inexperience and temper, not with lack of talent. Once he gets that sorted out, he'll be a serious contender.
Maldonado reminds me of Jean Alesi. He has all the talent and speed you'd want in a driver, none of the brains.Quote:
Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
Great argument!Quote:
Originally Posted by Knock-on
Don't bother watching qualifying or the race, just glance at the race results on Sunday evening. That gives you just as much information if not more than following what actually happened!
I would agree with that, I think he's under-rated and a quality driver. One of the most interesting aspects of Hamilton's move will be to see how Rosberg compares to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Black Knight
A lot will depend on how different the driving styles of Rosberg and Hamilton are. They have three years worth of experience with Rosberg's style and preferences, so they can easily make a car that fits him - especially with Schumacher out of the picture, who preferres oversteering cars. Lewis will be contractually bound to McLaren until the end of the year, so by the time he gets to join Mercedes in January, the car will be mostly finished. So in theory Rosberg starts 2013 with a slight advantage.
Mediocre in the field of F1 drivers. We have the best out there ie Alonso and Hamilton. The very good but just a fracton short of brilliant ie Vettel and Button, the mediocre being the likes of Nico and Massa and the rest of the field.Quote:
Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
Mixed in there are drivers we are evaluating such as Checo, PdR, Romain etc and people are making their minds up on these as we are seeing.
Nico might prove me wrong and bear in mind I was one of about 2 people on here that predicted he would beat Schumacher before they turned a wheel together but I put him as a upper-midfield driver until he proves me wrong.
Now, you put him in any other series and he would be one of the very best but this is F1 and the drivers must be judged against their contempories, not against every driver in every series.
You might be able to remember every qulifying and reason for retirement over the past 3 years but I struggle to remember just the races ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Malbec
At the end of the race, todays headlines are tomorrows fish and chip wrappers. You award millions of pounds and the championship titles on race results, not how lucky or unlucky a driver has been otherwise you devalue some of Schumachers and Ferrari's earlier achievements when they only won because McLaren couldn't last a race.
I'm still not with you. Mediocre implies that a driver can't really make much of the car's potential. Massa last year - that was a mediocre showing. Rosberg has been at Williams and Mercedes neither of which has been any better than a midfield car, yet he squeezed a win and 7 podiums out of them. That's hardly mediocrity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knock-on
I would put him at least on equal talent with Button. It's a bit tricky to compare drivers, when one sits in a front-running car and one in a complete bag o' balls.