Loeb against endurance rallies

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Originally Posted by Sulland

Once upon a time rallies were endurance, like Monte carlo classic and Safari rally omongst others.

My feeling is that the calendar should have 2 endurance rallies, due to the fact that a world champion should also master that kind of 'Classic' events, that require a different kind of tactics than todays 'sprint' rally format, with 'full gas' from start to finish!

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I agree. Couple of long events would certainly be good. Strategy and caring for the car rather than "flat to the mat sprints" should be part of the WRC.

I guess Loeb's comments just another sign that he's getting bored with all this winning stuff......... :)

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Originally Posted by tommeke_B

It's a bit strange that only Loeb has comments on these long events. It's like he doesn't enjoy it anymore and wants to be at home as much as possible...

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seeing as autosport.com had it (may still do) as the headline lead story in the wrc news section of the magazine I thought it relevent, for those who are interested in what the multiple world champion driver thinks of his sport here is a link. Sorry to have clogged your forum BJ.
Sebastien Loeb against endurance rallies - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com

I like the photo that rallye-magazin.de posted with the article about Loebs endurance opinion:
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/uploads...20120320-1.jpg

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Originally Posted by Martin Luijk

That's really unfair. I wish I could drive those stages in a WRC car, as much as possible.

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I am sure you do but there is a small detail...

you are not doing this for 15+ years and you haven't won 69 events 8 champinships and ridiculed every other driver around you...

i do not blame Loeb...its normal for someone to get a bit fed up from all the travelling around and recce...

Gronholm retired for the same reason without achieving anything compared to Loeb.

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Originally Posted by SlowSon

Anyway I have another idea. Reduce recce to only one pass for stage, considering everybody has camera in the car and watch it multiple times in the hotel room.

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That's nonsense, sorry. One-pass recce can result in only one thing - the long established guys will take another advantage over newcomers. Do You really believe that adding another obstacles for new teams is what WRC needs?

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Originally Posted by Brother John

So this thread is what I mean by PUB Talk discussions.

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Originally Posted by Mirek

That's nonsense, sorry. One-pass recce can result in only one thing - the long established guys will take another advantage over newcomers. Do You really believe that adding another obstacles for new teams is what WRC needs?

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I agree - it was taken out of context, two runs not one run is not a big saving, what I really meant was to ensure the recce could be done on wednesday and thursday morning with S/D or qualifying thursday afternoon. That would then accomodate the two day friday and saturday rally.
With the Loeb itinery just imagine the number of hotel bed nights at €100 per night it would save for a team of 70 persons.
I would like it known that I wish to withdraw my one pass recce statement.

What is best for the Manufacturers isn't neccessarily what is best for the sport as a whole. It seems too many have forgotten what made the sport the fantastic spectacle it was/ is....

Repeated stages round a central service park 13-14 times a year definately isn't it. Surely 3-4 'Endurance type' events in a season will suffice.

For me 3 days of rallying, just as it is now most of the rallies is fine! Friday, Saturday,Sunday..I don't see why everything should be done within 48 hours.
Monte Carlo makes no sense imo..way too long event and too big timegaps between the stages.

I'm not good enough to say if the endurance good or not because there are different factors like the sport value and costs

But dissapoint to here Loeb who is even like shorter rallies than today at least in days - 2 days events basically

I like to see some rounds year by year as spectator and to travel some thousand kilometers to see the cars 2days x 2times (maybe 3) not realy enough

I understand that after many years it's just a work for Loeb and the family and business more and more important - it's normal from his viewpont