This whole picture of teenagers shooting other human beings to death is wrong.
Who on this forum can defend that?
And we are not talking about a war zone here. It's a school! of all places.
It's all so stupid and all so sad.
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This whole picture of teenagers shooting other human beings to death is wrong.
Who on this forum can defend that?
And we are not talking about a war zone here. It's a school! of all places.
It's all so stupid and all so sad.
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No Eki, you wouldn't be banned for starting this thread, OK? It's completely in order to discuss this topic.
Now before everyone gets their dander up, yes there are a couple of posts missing from this thread. The poster is a banned user who keeps re-appearing under different usernames and he has been dealt with. The rest of the posts, so far seem to be ok, so just keep it clean and we'll all be allright.
Now for the topic. Yes, very sad indeed. As much as I advocate gun rights in this country I do not believe that it's ok at anytime for a minor to be in possession of a firearm. Whoever gave this child access to that firearm should be facing a very long prison sentence.
To be fair the thread title is in reference to the long standing Football thread entitled "I will probably be banned for this but...". Pino didn't expect to be banned then and I'm sure Eki doesn't expect it now!
They all felt threatened. They demanded ID and he pulled his wallet out and it looked like a gun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
Don't most wallets look just like guns?
So they drilled him..
The real shocker is how many total shots fired to hits considering he was less than 2-3m away..
So when ordered to do anything by any law enforcement officer, INSTANTLY respond or don't come whining here once they've killed you.
As long as it's not an order to show identification (assuming it's in your wallet). But I think it will be okay if you just yell 'Catch 22' as loudly as possible.
Hello. This is certainly a serious probable that has to be addressed in the US. There is a very sad divide in your country. The most frightening aspect for me as a physician is that there are so many rational people thinking irrationally.
I spoke with a colleague recently from the US. He gave me the number in deaths, suicides, accidents and murders. They were astounding. How on earth are people , intelligent people, putting up with this loss of life and limb.
I can't say where it is I work but it is overseas as you say and the number of people killed,injured accidentally or otherwise is less than a percentage point of the numbers you experience in the US.
The amendment people speak of is when muskets were the weapon. Having read a few books on gun incidents and the 2nd amendment I do not see, nor do people from all over Europe and Asia see how it applies today. It is obvious why it was set up. People were armed in an emergency to get together with their militia. Take out the militia and there are no rights.
Thank you for allowing me add my two pence.
I must admit that I've never understood why guns are so important for people in the US. I know that it's a part of their culture, but is it really reasonable that anyone should have access to firearms? I don't see why anyone should have access to firearms - let alone military-spec weapons - besides from policemen and people in the military.
I can't come up with a reason why it should be allowed to have a gun in your house. I've heard a lot of times that people want to have guns to defend themselves, but, in my opinion, the only reason because people would want to defend themselves is because there are too many weapons in the US. If everyone has guns, you would need them, right? But wouldn't it be just a lot safer if no-one had them? We don't have this problem in most European countries - no one seems to think that having guns at home is necessary or simply safer.
Oh, and while this last part might be off-topic, I would also like to point out that there's something which I find extremely absurd about U.S. laws, and it's that, should a burglar enter your house, you could just kill him/her on the spot and it would be totally fine. Is this reasonable? I don't think that killing someone is justified, whether they are burglars or anything else.
Without arms, what DID happen in Egypt?Quote:
Originally Posted by Starter
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/14/wo...ests.html?_r=1
For their part, Mr. Maher and his colleagues began reading about nonviolent struggles. They were especially drawn to a Serbian youth movement called Otpor, which had helped topple the dictator Slobodan Milosevic by drawing on the ideas of an American political thinker, Gene Sharp. The hallmark of Mr. Sharp’s work is well-tailored to Mr. Mubark’s Egypt: He argues that nonviolence is a singularly effective way to undermine police states that might cite violent resistance to justify repression in the name of stability.
BBC News - Gene Sharp: Author of the nonviolent revolution rulebook
To do this Sharp provides in his books a list of 198 "non-violent weapons", ranging from the use of colours and symbols to mock funerals and boycotts.
Designed to be the direct equivalent of military weapons, they are techniques collated from a forensic study of defiance to tyranny throughout history.
"These non-violent weapons are very important because they give people an alternative," he says. "If people don't have these, if they can't see that they are very powerful, they will go back to violence and war every time."
It may have escaped your attention, but there was actually very little fighting in Egypt. Guns for the most part were an utter irrelevance.
Using your example of the Civil War, not only was the war illegal but it also proved to be useless because the North won.
Egypt revolution resulted in at least 840 deaths: Amnesty report - JuristQuote:
Originally Posted by Rollo
jurist.org/.../eqypt-revolution-resulted-in-at-least-840-deaths-amnesty...
May 19, 2011 – [JURIST] At least 840 people were killed, and more than 6000 were injured during the Egyptian revolution to oust former president Hosni ...
He shot him 41 times and then he killed him?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki