Donald Trump to drive Indy 500 Pace Car

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Originally Posted by call_me_andrew

He means this one. http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...n_the_usa.html

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I don't know what FactCheck.org is but they're simply wrong on this one. What has been put forward is a "Certificate of Birth" which is not the same as a Birth Certificate. In fact, this Certificate cannot even be used as a proof of ID by state or federal agencies, such as the DMV. It is a useless document. That, plus a newspaper mention, does still not fulfill the requirement of actually having a Birth Certificate. Why the actual Birth Certificate has not been presented is hard to know. Maybe it simply got lost at the time of birth. Lacking this document does not mean he was born outside this country. But it's a key requirement of becoming President that you are a citizen of the US, and with this president, that requirement has not been fulfilled. If I went to my DMV with a newspaper article and a "Certificate of Birth", they would not consider those to be valid proof of ID. They would request my actual "Birth Certificate" along with my social security card (another document of Obama's that is odd, as he has a Connecticut SS#). So the same should be required of our President.

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Originally Posted by NickFalzone

I don't know what FactCheck.org is but they're simply wrong on this one. What has been put forward is a "Certificate of Birth" which is not the same as a Birth Certificate. In fact, this Certificate cannot even be used as a proof of ID by state or federal agencies, such as the DMV. It is a useless document. That, plus a newspaper mention, does still not fulfill the requirement of actually having a Birth Certificate. Why the actual Birth Certificate has not been presented is hard to know. Maybe it simply got lost at the time of birth. Lacking this document does not mean he was born outside this country. But it's a key requirement of becoming President that you are a citizen of the US, and with this president, that requirement has not been fulfilled. If I went to my DMV with a newspaper article and a "Certificate of Birth", they would not consider those to be valid proof of ID. They would request my actual "Birth Certificate" along with my social security card (another document of Obama's that is odd, as he has a Connecticut SS#). So the same should be required of our President.

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Take it somewhere else, and take the Donald with you. This is precisely why it was a STUPID idea to even suggest this guy as the pace car driver. He is divisive, we don't need another division in the fan base. A truely STUPID move on the part of the folks at 16th and Georgetown.

Gary

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Originally Posted by garyshell

Take it somewhere else, and take the Donald with you. This is precisely why it was a STUPID idea to even suggest this guy as the pace car driver. He is divisive, we don't need another division in the fan base. A truely STUPID move on the part of the folks at 16th and Georgetown.

Gary

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THE Donald to Gary: "You're Fired !!!" LOL

Donald Trump's an idiot.

Now, to the related idiocy of the birth certificate vs certificate of live birth debate.

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Originally Posted by NickFalzone

In fact, this Certificate cannot even be used as a proof of ID by state or federal agencies, such as the DMV. It is a useless document.

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I'd like to know where you got this information, and if it's a useless document, why issue it?

I think you've been drinking too much tea and not thinking for yourself enough.

Donald Trump is also a publicity seeking egomaniacal windbag whose sole interest is himself. He said in one interview that we would not believe what his investigators in Hawaii were finding out about Obama. The trouble is, he hasn't said what that is. If in fact he has strong evidence, or even outright proof of these idiotic birther claims, he has the responsibility to show it now before any more damage is done. I predict it'll fizzle like Al Capone's vault.

I love the Donald's chutzpah. I think personally it is a great thing to have him driving the pace car. First off, love him or hate him, people will talk about him. The man is a show man, and a master promoter. Since they gave up putting anyone BUT celebs behind the wheel of the pace car in the last few years, does it really matter if they put him in the car or Jay Leno (he has done it already)? I suspect not. Every celeb has his/her fans and detractors. AT least with the Donald, everyone knows who he is, and if he ever decided to put his money into racing, no one would complain...

As for his attacks on Obama, I find it quite amusing....Obama hasn't really answered any of those questions, and I suppose he shouldn't have to. Donald though just asks the relevent question, why all the work to not produce something? Personally, I think Obama is from Hawaii. I don't doubt it for a second, but it is fun watching him and Donald on opposite sides..makes for great theatre!

Trump is an idiot, blowhard, egomaniac - who now fancies himself an idiot, blowhard, politician. why on earth would the IRL want to salute the 100th anniversary with this sort of sideshow? Let it be an accomplished driver - please!! (Mears, Foyt, Big Al...)

Comes off as desperate and ridiculous, to be honest.

Mileman, they haven't had a real driver pace the 500 in years. Why would they start now?

Trump will get them some PR hits and he will promote his apperance. This is a sell out flat out, and if this series wasn't driven so far into the ditch, desperate measures wouldn't be required...

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Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa

Trump will get them some PR hits and he will promote his apperance. This is a sell out flat out, and if this series wasn't driven so far into the ditch, desperate measures wouldn't be required...

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This^^^

Attention: Donald craves it... Indy needs it.

Donald Trump was this country's (male) Paris Hilton before Paris Hilton was even born. He's been one of the world's great attention wh*res for decades now - and let's be honest: he's good at it. Love him or hate him, this series could learn a lot about business and branding from Trump. Heck, back in the 80's, he was the first "billionaire" to (really) be worth a couple hundred million. But I don't think the country could learn much from him about debt management. As a project manager, he rivals Roger Penske. But as a debt/risk manager, he looks more like Kevin Kalkhoven.

Who knows, maybe he'll enjoy himself enough in the pace car that he'll sponsor a car. As long as someone else will pay for the sponsorship and decals... he might do it. Plus The Donald is a really, really, really smart guy. Don't believe me? Just ask him. He'll tell ya! :p :