Korean GP

Looking at the layout I think its going to be nip and tuck between Ferrari and Red Bull, could be very interesting.

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Originally Posted by ioan

Interesting. I would like to have some more info if possible.

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Me too! I've never heard of dirt work bedding before - this might be ground breaking stuff. :p :

http://eurosport.yahoo.com/video/141...a-circuit.html

i like the track and if this is how the area is going to look in a few years time, it will be a spectacular venue.
turn one is going to be tight bit that long straight right after will be exciting and most probably provide some good racing. one more week until friday practice :)

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Originally Posted by Sonic

Very good point. We had a thread on here a few weeks back (can't find it now though) which suggested Mark Webber had the most new engines available.

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The full stats are here (click the "engines" tab, obviously):
http://www.vivaf1.com/engine.php

Of the championship contenders, Webber's on his 7th unit while all the others are on 8 so an unscheduled change would see them penalised.

Ferrari had an issue at the start of the season, but it appears to be under control now. Much as I'd like to see Alonso lose the championship, I want a fair fight on track and not to have the title decided by failures.

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Originally Posted by Dave B

The full stats are here (click the "engines" tab, obviously):
http://www.vivaf1.com/engine.php

Of the championship contenders, Webber's on his 7th unit while all the others are on 8 so an unscheduled change would see them penalised.

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Actually looking at those numbers, Webber's advantage is only slight.

The McLaren and Mercedes cars all have the Spa and Suzuka engines with only 1 race on them, so for Korea, Brazil and Abu Dhabi they could be using engines on their 2nd, 2nd and 3rd races respectively.

Webber has at least 2 races on all the 7 engines he's used, but with 1 unused he'll do the last 3 races using engines on their 1st, 2nd and 3rd races.

Vettel has the Suzuka engine with one race on it, and some from earlier in the season with 2 races each. So his last 3 races will be using engines on their 2nd, 3rd and 3rd races.

Massa has the Spa engine with 1 race on it. The Monza engine has 1 race plus Singapore qualy on it, but since it was changed I'd assume it won't be re-used, even though it would be allowed at the final race. He has a couple of other engines with 2 races on them. So having taken the penalty he's in the same position as Vettel now.

Alonso has the Spa engine with one race, plus only one other with 2 races, so he's looking at using engines on their 2nd/3rd/3rd races too. But he's more vulnerable if he loses an engine, because he could have to choose to either take a penalty or make an engine last 4 races.

The guys with the real advantage are Reubens plus the two Renaults. They all have their Suzuka engines with only 1 race, plus a fresh one, so they'll be doing 1st/2nd/2nd for the remaining races. Shame for Reubens that his is only a Cosworth :)

(For several drivers engine 1 has only done one race, but I'm guessing that will have been used for practices since.)

Edit: I just realised that Webber, who's only used 7 engines, is actually more vulnerable in the event of an engine failure than the 4 Mercedes-engined cars. If, hypothetically, they all use their least-used engines in Korea and all blow them up during the race, then the Macs/Mercs would still be have 2nd race/3rd race engines for Brazil and Abu Dhabi. Whereas Webber would fall back to 3rd/3rd because all his other engines have 2 races on already.

Having driven the track in the F1 2010 game I personally think Red Bull are going to walk it. Sure there is the long straight down to the hairpin Turn 3 but then the next section is stop start through turns 4 to 6 before opening up. From then on it's all Red Bull country with fast sweepers and corners that tighten. Aero and low speed grip will be critical so I think we'll see RBR followed by Ferrari and McLaren then weekend. I expect the McLarens to be quickest through sector 1 but lose it all in sector 3.

Personally I don't like the layout that much. In the game there are 7 corners in 1 lap where you're scrabbling for grip in acceleration out of 2nd gear corners (T1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 15), thats not a good ratio. The whole lap just feels like you're just getting going and have to slow down for a damn 2nd gear corner again.

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Originally Posted by AndyL

Actually looking at those numbers, Webber's advantage is only slight.

The McLaren and Mercedes cars all have the Spa and Suzuka engines with only 1 race on them, so for Korea, Brazil and Abu Dhabi they could be using engines on their 2nd, 2nd and 3rd races respectively.

Webber has at least 2 races on all the 7 engines he's used, but with 1 unused he'll do the last 3 races using engines on their 1st, 2nd and 3rd races.

Vettel has the Suzuka engine with one race on it, and some from earlier in the season with 2 races each. So his last 3 races will be using engines on their 2nd, 3rd and 3rd races.

Massa has the Spa engine with 1 race on it. The Monza engine has 1 race plus Singapore qualy on it, but since it was changed I'd assume it won't be re-used, even though it would be allowed at the final race. He has a couple of other engines with 2 races on them. So having taken the penalty he's in the same position as Vettel now.

Alonso has the Spa engine with one race, plus only one other with 2 races, so he's looking at using engines on their 2nd/3rd/3rd races too. But he's more vulnerable if he loses an engine, because he could have to choose to either take a penalty or make an engine last 4 races.

The guys with the real advantage are Reubens plus the two Renaults. They all have their Suzuka engines with only 1 race, plus a fresh one, so they'll be doing 1st/2nd/2nd for the remaining races. Shame for Reubens that his is only a Cosworth :)

(For several drivers engine 1 has only done one race, but I'm guessing that will have been used for practices since.)

Edit: I just realised that Webber, who's only used 7 engines, is actually more vulnerable in the event of an engine failure than the 4 Mercedes-engined cars. If, hypothetically, they all use their least-used engines in Korea and all blow them up during the race, then the Macs/Mercs would still be have 2nd race/3rd race engines for Brazil and Abu Dhabi. Whereas Webber would fall back to 3rd/3rd because all his other engines have 2 races on already.

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For some resons they cán´t use engines older than two month or was it three.

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Originally Posted by AndyL

Actually looking at those numbers, Webber's advantage is only slight.

The McLaren and Mercedes cars all have the Spa and Suzuka engines with only 1 race on them, so for Korea, Brazil and Abu Dhabi they could be using engines on their 2nd, 2nd and 3rd races respectively.

Webber has at least 2 races on all the 7 engines he's used, but with 1 unused he'll do the last 3 races using engines on their 1st, 2nd and 3rd races.

Vettel has the Suzuka engine with one race on it, and some from earlier in the season with 2 races each. So his last 3 races will be using engines on their 2nd, 3rd and 3rd races.

Massa has the Spa engine with 1 race on it. The Monza engine has 1 race plus Singapore qualy on it, but since it was changed I'd assume it won't be re-used, even though it would be allowed at the final race. He has a couple of other engines with 2 races on them. So having taken the penalty he's in the same position as Vettel now.

Alonso has the Spa engine with one race, plus only one other with 2 races, so he's looking at using engines on their 2nd/3rd/3rd races too. But he's more vulnerable if he loses an engine, because he could have to choose to either take a penalty or make an engine last 4 races.

The guys with the real advantage are Reubens plus the two Renaults. They all have their Suzuka engines with only 1 race, plus a fresh one, so they'll be doing 1st/2nd/2nd for the remaining races. Shame for Reubens that his is only a Cosworth :)

(For several drivers engine 1 has only done one race, but I'm guessing that will have been used for practices since.)

Edit: I just realised that Webber, who's only used 7 engines, is actually more vulnerable in the event of an engine failure than the 4 Mercedes-engined cars. If, hypothetically, they all use their least-used engines in Korea and all blow them up during the race, then the Macs/Mercs would still be have 2nd race/3rd race engines for Brazil and Abu Dhabi. Whereas Webber would fall back to 3rd/3rd because all his other engines have 2 races on already.

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Shouldn't you be doing some homework?

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Originally Posted by Mia 01

For some resons they cán´t use engines older than two month or was it three.

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Termites!! They eat everything. :(

oh joy- after the delights of Suzuka comes another Herman Tilke bore-a-drome. Am sure it will look very nice, and with one man and his dog in the stands they'll look quite good as well

I haven't played the F1 game yet- does this have the regulation bump on the start/finish straight?