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Originally Posted by Eki
So?
I don't believe in Jealous, Illogical, anti-American, Anti-Semitic, Fascists and yet you exist!
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Originally Posted by Eki
So?
I don't believe in Jealous, Illogical, anti-American, Anti-Semitic, Fascists and yet you exist!
It would be a pretty out of date headline, especially considering that there is the Japanese Cultural Center of Hawai‘i and has been there since at least 1965.Quote:
Originally Posted by tannat
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We have a philosophical difference of opinion there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
When has the U.S. ever done anything that would even begin to compare to what the Japanese did before and during WWII? There is not a major country on the face of the earth that doesn't have SOME blood on its hands. But when a country had a POLICY which made it acceptable to take foreign girls as young as 10 or 11 and make them sexual playthings for bored soldiers, and then that country refuses even now to acknowledge the horror of that, IMO, that is a country that deserved every right hook, body blow and uppercut that we laid on them. It's unfortunate that so many Japanese noncombatants lost their lives in the atomic attacks that ended Japan's war effort. But it would have been even more unfortunate for more American soldiers to have died trying to take Japan house by house. I believe in "total war" because it works. It has always worked. It worked for William Tecumseh Sherman as well as it worked for Julius Caesar. It blows away the illusion that war can be neat & tidy. It makes war less socially acceptable, not more. It makes countries think twice about waging war when they know that their entire nation might be turned into a fireball. But even in total war, it is not acceptable to rape and torture just for the "fun" of it. So whatever past actions the U.S. might have engaged in, our society, unlike Japanese society, has not been willing to just sweep anything and everything under the rug.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
IMO, we should never be apologetic to the Japanese for Hiroshima or Nagasaki. They should be glad that they surrendered when they did, so that they didn't have to face another mushroom cloud over another of their cities. I know there is a movement in Japan right now which is trying to get such an apology from us. The way I see it, they got massive Allied financial assistance, perpetual U.S. taxpayer funded military protection (until we finally go bankrupt) and a U.S. trade policy which allows Japanese companies to FREELY do business here, while they continue to have protectionist trade policies there. So they need to stop whining for an apology and be thankful for all that we have given them. And since the glass house they have from WWII is bigger than ours, like I said, they'd be better off leaving that can of worms alone.
I made a quick "off the cuff" comment, Rollo..Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollo
Cheers on the education :up:
HOOO-WHEE-- that was a good one; to the point and truthful.Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonyvop
I, personally and inclusively, don't know anybody that loses sleep over our atomic attack on the Empire of Japan. There are all manner of "what if..." scenarios that deal with how the war could have or should have ended differently. I have read of some where Japan was trying to surrender by going through Russian diplomatic channels but Stalin wouldn't pass on the messages until he was in a position to also declare war on Japan with sufficient troops in place to gain territorial concessions, which he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
As far as "not being your enemies anymore...", we sent plenty of those long before Pearl Harbor saying "if you stop your invasion of China, we won't be enemies anymore." They chose to ignore them.
The Japanese bit off far more than they could ever chew and paid a high price for their folly. Perhaps that's what they should discuss at their memorial services.
Yes. Although England didn't usually use excessive force to retaliate the attacks of the local resistance or trying to prevent them. They did enough to contain the problem, but not too much to aggravate it. After all, the situation seems now be quite good. And that's not thanks to total surrendering of the Irish, but to negotiations and compromises.Quote:
Originally Posted by Starter
But do you think being a jealous, illogical, anti-American, anti-semitic fascist is a good idea that works? That's the point. You obviously think total warfare is a good idea that works.Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonyvop
Let's turn that around and ask if YOU would like Japan to take care of the military protection of the US or live on Japanese hand outs? Would you like to have Japanese military bases in the US?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
The reason the US wants to take care and supervise the Japanese military defense is that they don't want to let the Japanese military to grow that big and powerful that they could take care of it by themselves and maybe become a potential military threat again.
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Originally Posted by Eki
It is and it did. Just ask Japan and Germany.